Romo is not the problem, neither is the D!

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the way our D played, regardless of the little BS Newman gave up, we should have been up by 14 or 21 at that point

the way Romo is playing is what you want from your QB, don't try and force it, which he didn't, the int he threw was inexperience by a WR, Austin, not were he was supposed to be.....the behind throw to Williams, if he would have placed it in stride, Dawkins was closing, so either williams would have really got rocked, or it would be a pick....

Either way, watching the game, and them showing replays, no one is getting open, Williams when i see him running routes, hes not convincing, and he looks like he has cement, or weights on his legs, no exaggeration...that little BS to Hurd, was luck, nobody was open to begin with, so Romo had to buy extra 5 secs just to find a guy, we have no one capable outside of witten, and Felix jones, who can catch and run and get open, and you cant throw to your backs and TE all day....

We need better WR's, i was 1 of the guys that stood up for this group, today it showed i was wrong, Roy is a bust, wasnt worth the money, or trade, hes a number 2 or 3....Miles just isn't ready....Crayton is average...hurd, isn't ready as well...that leaves Witten..lets get real

At least with TO we made defenses honest, sure he was a big mouth, drop the ball kinda guy, but a D respected him, and made it possible for others to get open

im still a big fan, and will stick by our team, but i give up on the season as far as playoffs go, my job asks me to come in and if i want extra hours, i say no cause i want to watch a Cowboys game, theres nothing to get my hopes up for, our WR's wont get faster and start mking plays in 1 week....it wont happen, Buc's tricked us with blown coverage

i hope they prove me wrong....but our WR's are our downfall....I'm still behind Romo, and the Defense
 
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Wow, that's amazing, because I saw open receivers. RW was open when Romo threw a high fast-ball that got him layed out. Austin was open in that same series, when Romo overthrew him as well.

Come on! The only thing consistent about Romo all season has been his inconsistency. You're not going to have wide open receivers every play. Sometimes you have to get it into tight coverage. It was obvious the Int. was a communication thing, but when a QB throws the ball over the WRs head, you can't blame it on the receiver.
 

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Newman was pulled and pushed on that play for separation. Without that cheap move by Marshall that play is a batted ball, and an interception at best.

As for the offense, we sure did get away from what was working (the run, screens) but it also took Romo way too long to get Witten involved.

We don't have killer instinct like the 07 Patriots. We don't go into every game with an "I'm going to blow you out" mentality.

Anyway, week over, let's get ready for Kansas City.
 

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You forgot 3 things.

The offensive play calling. You get down on the 2, you have Barber on the bench? Really? And all the passes from inside the 5. Really?

A very soft head coach. This team has NO discipline. On either side of the ball. Penalties, not knowing assignments, sloppy play, sloppy tackling. When does it stop?

And Jerrah Jones the GM. When you have Jerrah to run to and whine to, why even have a head coach? Trades that trade away our top picks for mediocre talent time and time again, bad draft picks that don't pan out year after year after year. Bad coachs being hired over and over. (the 2 exceptions are Jimmy and Parcels)
 

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It's easy to blame Romo because ESPN tells you to, but the simple fact is that with predictable playcalling ,iffy pass protection, and no attempt to establish an active running game.. No QB would succeed. No Quarterback.

Was Romo's accuracy off today, Yeah it was. But let's not go that far. Lets look at the best QB of all time's 2009 season. Tom Brady.

Brady played terrible week 1 and week 2. His accuracy was off, constantly getting pressured and predictable 2007 playcalling. It didnt work. Belichick adjusted. They run the ball twice as much now and they beat the 'best team in the nfl' coming into today.

That's what sets apart the good coaches from the bad ones. The ability to adjust. Garrett does not adjust.

He runs the same gameplan game in and game out. Garrett keeps calling the same plays, not putting our players in a position to succeed.

Until he is gone, the blame will fall on Romo when it should fall elsewhere.
 

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Cogan;2990458 said:
Wow, that's amazing, because I saw open receivers. RW was open when Romo threw a high fast-ball that got him layed out. Austin was open in that same series, when Romo overthrew him as well.

Come on! The only thing consistent about Romo all season has been his inconsistency. You're not going to have wide open receivers every play. Sometimes you have to get it into tight coverage. It was obvious the Int. was a communication thing, but when a QB throws the ball over the WRs head, you can't blame it on the receiver.

but they don't get open consistently...i cant blame Romo..i cant
 

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Romo is finished, patience has run out.
He's Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Danny Kannel, Bobby Hebert, Chris Miller but not a winner.
 

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Well Brandon Marshall wasn't open, but Orton threw it to him anyway and it went for 6.
 

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mv09;2990499 said:
It's easy to blame Romo because ESPN tells you to, but the simple fact is that with predictable playcalling ,iffy pass protection, and no attempt to establish an active running game.. No QB would succeed. No Quarterback.

Was Romo's accuracy off today, Yeah it was. But let's not go that far. Lets look at the best QB of all time's 2009 season. Tom Brady.

Brady played terrible week 1 and week 2. His accuracy was off, constantly getting pressured and predictable 2007 playcalling. It didnt work. Belichick adjusted. They run the ball twice as much now and they beat the 'best team in the nfl' coming into today.

That's what sets apart the good coaches from the bad ones. The ability to adjust. Garrett does not adjust.

He runs the same gameplan game in and game out. Garrett keeps calling the same plays, not putting our players in a position to succeed.

Until he is gone, the blame will fall on Romo when it should fall elsewhere.

i can agree with this as well
 

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links18;2990543 said:
Well Brandon Marshall wasn't open, but Orton threw it to him anyway and it went for 6.

exactly my point...we dont have any WR's....no WR's that can do that on our team, bad enough they cant get open often, but you cant even force it to them, like you could with Larry or Moss
 

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Aikbach;2990534 said:
Romo is finished, patience has run out.
He's Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Danny Kannel, Bobby Hebert, Chris Miller but not a winner.

Bro, Romo is still a great QB, but he does not have and number 1 WR's...0

we have 2 average vets, and 2 inexperienced WR's
 

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DallasKnight;2990490 said:
You forgot 3 things.

The offensive play calling. You get down on the 2, you have Barber on the bench? Really? And all the passes from inside the 5. Really?

A very soft head coach. This team has NO discipline. On either side of the ball. Penalties, not knowing assignments, sloppy play, sloppy tackling. When does it stop?

And Jerrah Jones the GM. When you have Jerrah to run to and whine to, why even have a head coach? Trades that trade away our top picks for mediocre talent time and time again, bad draft picks that don't pan out year after year after year. Bad coachs being hired over and over. (the 2 exceptions are Jimmy and Parcels)
That's what I see. An undisciplined offense that keeps shooting itself in the foot with penalties and lack of execution and a coaching staff that looks lost and bewildered. At least with Parcells you knew there would be hell to pay for this kind of play, these guys will get the shucks we'll do better next time treatment. I saw this in the Arizona game last year and now it's cropping it's ugly head once more, there is no sense of urgency anywhere from anyone, no Witten at least was talking to people out there, but no coaches were in peoples faces.

Teams have a way of turning things around, but with Wade I just don't see it happening.
 

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Terence Newman700;2990564 said:
exactly my point...we dont have any WR's....no WR's that can do that on our team, bad enough they cant get open often, but you cant even force it to them, like you could with Larry or Moss
Overrated, Dallas has had some of the highest profile names at receiver throughout this decade and been mediocre none the less.

Joe Montana won two Super Bowls with a tandem named Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, hardly barn burners.

John Elway won two Super Bowls with Rod Smith and Ed McCafferey, again hardly elite, but very good together and in the offense.

Brett Favre won one with Antonio Freeman and Robert Brooks, hardly elite.

Jeff Hostetler slung passes to guys named Stephen Baker and Mark Ingram and won a Super Bowl.

Romo can't cut it, period, end of discussion.

He is a serviceable quarterback, not elite and not able to carry a team.
 

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Terence Newman700;2990564 said:
exactly my point...we dont have any WR's....no WR's that can do that on our team, bad enough they cant get open often, but you cant even force it to them, like you could with Larry or Moss

They can do it...they have done it before, especially Roy Williams. But it appears as if every passing play we run is some sort of deep crossing route or in, or a hook/curl route. I understand we love the two-tight end set, but We didn't barely see any of Bennett or Witten split wide. Its like we pulled out all the stops against Tampa, and then went back to clicking "Ask Madden" from now on...I just scratch my head...sure Romo didn't play fantastic today but some of the playcalls were just headscratchers, and we all know that a QB cant audible out of every single play call if they want to keep their job.
 

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Romo was off tonight. Period. I don't think he's the huge problem on this team but he was off and that contributed. The play calling once more baffled me on multiple occassions. I'm sick to death of Garrett and I'm sick to death of this silly notion that he's even a decent OC, let alone a genius.

But not having Felix is a HUGE issue for this team. Without him our offense simply doesn't have enough explosion to really scare and stretch teams. We've absolutely got to have him in the long run and he's got to stay healthy.
 

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pjjrfan;2990597 said:
That's what I see. An undisciplined offense that keeps shooting itself in the foot with penalties and lack of execution and a coaching staff that looks lost and bewildered. At least with Parcells you knew there would be hell to pay for this kind of play, these guys will get the shucks we'll do better next time treatment. I saw this in the Arizona game last year and now it's cropping it's ugly head once more, there is no sense of urgency anywhere from anyone, no Witten at least was talking to people out there, but no coaches were in peoples faces.

Teams have a way of turning things around, but with Wade I just don't see it happening.

exactly, i feel a hard nosed head coach is in order, Wade can be DC tho
 

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casmith07;2990603 said:
They can do it...they have done it before, especially Roy Williams. But it appears as if every passing play we run is some sort of deep crossing route or in, or a hook/curl route. I understand we love the two-tight end set, but We didn't barely see any of Bennett or Witten split wide. Its like we pulled out all the stops against Tampa, and then went back to clicking "Ask Madden" from now on...I just scratch my head...sure Romo didn't play fantastic today but some of the playcalls were just headscratchers, and we all know that a QB cant audible out of every single play call if they want to keep their job.

i agree with this...were was Bennett?

i believe Roy can pull that trick off every now n then, but damn, i wish he could get open, more consistently
 

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Aikbach;2990599 said:
Overrated, Dallas has had some of the highest profile names at receiver throughout this decade and been mediocre none the less.

Joe Montana won two Super Bowls with a tandem named Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon, hardly barn burners.

John Elway won two Super Bowls with Rod Smith and Ed McCafferey, again hardly elite, but very good together and in the offense.

Brett Favre won one with Antonio Freeman and Robert Brooks, hardly elite.

Jeff Hostetler slung passes to guys named Stephen Baker and Mark Ingram and won a Super Bowl.

Romo can't cut it, period, end of discussion.

He is a serviceable quarterback, not elite and not able to carry a team.

i agree with other posters that play calling had a role in it...but Romo is not the problem
 

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ScipioCowboy;2990602 said:
No. They're merely symptoms of a larger problem.

Yep and he lies in the booth. If we go 2-3 next week, what will Jerry say. If he finds his team at 4-3 by the midpoint of the season, what will he say. He's the main problem. He hired this abortion of a coaching staff and he's getting the results. As far as money, he loves it. But as far as on the field, it's not all joy and happiness I bet. But I'm pretty sure he doesn't care for that. I think.
 
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