Romo isn't untradable

[TheDude]

Name 5 franchise quarterbacks who have been traded in the last 5 years...

It doesn't happen often, and you confuse the result with the cause.

I'm not talking about cutler when he was 25. My point is that he has market value and that is why he got paid.

Peyton Manning was coming off a much more serious injury than Romo, and yet he got paid. Market capital.

Carson Palmer doesn't have nearly the market capital that romo does and he was traded for a 1st and a 2nd (that could have turned into a 1st).

None of these players are in the same situation, that isn't the point. The point is that a player with market capital can be traded for compensation.

The idea that Romo doesn't have market capital is a illusion you've created for yourself.

Carson palmer was Traded to the Raiders.

If we can trade Romo to the Raiders for a 1 and 2, you jump through the phone at that deal, make any roster move you can to get under the cap that day.

 

[Nirvana]

Carson palmer was Traded to the Raiders.

If we can trade Romo to the Raiders for a 1 and 2, you jump through the phone at that deal, make any roster move you can to get under the cap that day.

Would never happen though, not even a 1. Might get a 2nd and a 6th for him. Raiders would rather have a friendly contract and Carr or Bridgewater. As much as I like Romo, his resume lacks playoff success. That's not worth a first round high pick like the Raiders have.

 

[iceberg]

yes he is.

 

[TheDude]

Would never happen though, not even a 1. Might get a 2nd and a 6th for him. Raiders would rather have a friendly contract and Carr or Bridgewater. As much as I like Romo, his resume lacks playoff success. That's not worth a first round high pick like the Raiders have.

yeah, I know. The response was to post where "Palmer fetched a 1 and a 2."

It was the Raiders, so - ya know.

 

[Verdict]

Galain, the problem isn't how much trade value Romo has to our potential trade partner, or how cap friendly the deal would be for his new team. The problem is the cap hit we would take due the the trade on our end. You could cure a headache by shooting yourself in the head, but you don't do it because you are better off with the headache than having your brains splattered on the wall.

 

[Alexander]

All the number crunching in this thread is hilarious.

Tony Romo is untradeable because Jerry Jones is married to him. He is also going steady with Garrett for at least one more year, a last hurrah.

 

[starfrombirth]

Would Houston trade the rights to Manziel for Romo straight up?? Would it make Jerry think twice??

I hope not for manzel. I was a fan in college but not convinced it translates to nfl. I would trade that pick back down and draft more defensive help. No.... not sold on clowney as first pick but that might be lesser of two evils.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Do you really want to stay at 8-8 forever? In two or three years, Romo will be declined enough that the 4-12 records will be a reality with him as the QB. Why not start the rebuild now? I would be happy to trade Romo for a 7th round pick if it got this team out of his contract. You are wanting to board a sinking ship. It is not going to get better with Romo, Ware and these other old players with big contracts are gone.

the quesiton is are we on the way down or are we on the way up? right now we seem stuck in neutral. getting rid of room means a total rebuild, start from scratch. I am not opposed to that, but questioning if that's we should do.

now, bad contracts are something else. is it the players you oppose or the contracts? and going 4-12 with room, I think every team goes through that towards the end of their super stars careers. its inevitable. its the way of the NFL.

so why not try and find a few missing pieces to get over the hump? if Romo is gone in 2 or 3 years, then we have to rebuild anyway. why the self inflicted wounds?

I think with the right moves, we have a good chance of getting a real opportunity in the next 2 or 3 years. there is no guarantee that if we demolish this thing, that its going to end up any better in 2 or 3 years. we can go to the cycles of trying to find the right guy for the next 10 years. like we did with Landry towards the end of his career or after we were done with the superbowl runs until we found romo.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We pretty much need a whole new defensive line and a safety. By the time we get that, Romo will probably be retired.

we don't need a dominant defense. we just need one that's in the teens and can make a few stops here and there, unlike what we did against Chicago, Denver and GB. not making a single stop for 10 total quarters.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Carson palmer was Traded to the Raiders.

If we can trade Romo to the Raiders for a 1 and 2, you jump through the phone at that deal, make any roster move you can to get under the cap that day.

carson palmer retired. was out of football for a year. then decided to come back. at that time cinci had moved on to Dalton and had the rights to palmer. he wasn't traded at the height of his career.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Peyton Manning got paid after FOUR neck surgeries... please just stop.

sorry, you are talking about peyton manning. a QB who maybe the best ever in his position....not the same comparison. and I am a romo fan.

 

[Risen Star]

Name 5 franchise quarterbacks who have been traded in the last 5 years...

It doesn't happen often, and you confuse the result with the cause.

I'm not talking about cutler when he was 25. My point is that he has market value and that is why he got paid.

Peyton Manning was coming off a much more serious injury than Romo, and yet he got paid. Market capital.

Carson Palmer doesn't have nearly the market capital that romo does and he was traded for a 1st and a 2nd (that could have turned into a 1st).

None of these players are in the same situation, that isn't the point. The point is that a player with market capital can be traded for compensation.

The idea that Romo doesn't have market capital is a illusion you've created for yourself.

Oh, so your point is players not comparable to Romo whatsoever had market value at one time whether by trade or free agency so that means teams want to trade for Romo now?

 

[Risen Star]

sorry, you are talking about peyton manning. a QB who maybe the best ever in his position....not the same comparison. and I am a romo fan.

It's a ridiculous comparison. For one, Tony Romo is no Peyton Manning. Two, nobody traded for Manning. You only risked the salary.

 

[ufcrules1]

C'mon don't try and talk yourself into allies that aren't there. His numbers speak for themselves and he is saddled with the worst defense in football. You guys treat him like Chad Hutchinson

You're in the minority for a reason, most of us believe we can win with him with just a decent defense and reliable running game much like Seattle and San Francisco...wait...what! They went to the NFC Championship game?

It's simply amazing how that works. Don't worry though the next Chad isn't far off unless we get really lucky.

No, I would say I'm in the the majority here with my opinion. You keep hanging on to your dream that Romo can lead a team to and win a super bowl. Even a team like SF wouldn't be able to make up for Tony's mistakes on offense. Could you imagine Tony playing against Seattle in the NFC championship game? With the butterflies he gets in playoff games or even elimination games. Seattle would have punished Romo. Romo would have fallen apart in the wild card or division round.

Romo and his contract will bury this team until he is out of here. Just think, we could have had a few more great players on the dline. a quality safety, a QB like Alex Smith(temporary), and then more help from the draft. Instead we get an over the hill Romo with back and head problems. We are guaranteed to suck this year.

 

[Hoofbite]

Now he's untradeable.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Why would the Texans want Romo? They have their pick of whichever QB they want to start new.

 

[jnday]

the quesiton is are we on the way down or are we on the way up? right now we seem stuck in neutral. getting rid of room means a total rebuild, start from scratch. I am not opposed to that, but questioning if that's we should do.

now, bad contracts are something else. is it the players you oppose or the contracts? and going 4-12 with room, I think every team goes through that towards the end of their super stars careers. its inevitable. its the way of the NFL.

so why not try and find a few missing pieces to get over the hump? if Romo is gone in 2 or 3 years, then we have to rebuild anyway. why the self inflicted wounds?

I think with the right moves, we have a good chance of getting a real opportunity in the next 2 or 3 years. there is no guarantee that if we demolish this thing, that its going to end up any better in 2 or 3 years. we can go to the cycles of trying to find the right guy for the next 10 years. like we did with Landry towards the end of his career or after we were done with the superbowl runs until we found romo.

Why waists to or three years? As you stated, the rebuild is gonna have to take place in a few years anyway. This team can't be turned around with drafts only and little cap room to sign free agents. Romo's back injuries may make this happen within the next year or so. It seems like a total waste of time considering that the QB and top defensive player at one time are at the end of their careers. Jerry has said this team is in a " win now" phase, but the talent is not there at the positions needed to win. They are just good enough to give Jerry and some fans hope. Add the fact that several of the team's better players have yearly injury issues and the arrow is not pointing up for this team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's a ridiculous comparison. For one, Tony Romo is no Peyton Manning. Two, nobody traded for Manning. You only risked the salary.

exactly

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why waists to or three years? As you stated, the rebuild is gonna have to take place in a few years anyway. This team can't be turned around with drafts only and little cap room to sign free agents. Romo's back injuries may make this happen within the next year or so. It seems like a total waste of time considering that the QB and top defensive player at one time are at the end of their careers. Jerry has said this team is in a " win now" phase, but the talent is not there at the positions needed to win. They are just good enough to give Jerry and some fans hope. Add the fact that several of the team's better players have yearly injury issues and the arrow is not pointing up for this team.

every team goes through rebuilding (except maybe for New England). at some point you have to go back to the drawing board and find your QB. so why accelerate it? because its inevitable that its going to happen? and then you search for God knows how long for your next QB. its not about rebuilding its about winning and if there is an opportunity, then you take advantage.

. and I totally disagree that the team can't be turned around with drafts. that's absolutely the only way we have to do it. doing it via FA is a waste of time and money, usually because FA costs you a lot more, which means they eat up cap dollars. we have been down that road before so have many other teams and history says it fails.....you can compliment your team to close that last few gaps to get over the top and be a championship team, but all of the superbowl winners of the past 10-15 years were mainly built through the draft. you don't build a team through FAs. that's the biggest mistake we could make. so if your plan is to get rid of room and ware and have cap room to sign FAs, then its doomed to fail. because great players, don't hit the street. only those at the end of their careers or trouble makers. ala Jared Allen. Teams sign their own FAs because they are key to their success. so we won't see anyone worth anything hit the market and if they do, the price is usually very high because everybody wants them.

which comes to the point, we better focus on the draft and have a good draft. what is hurting this team? 2008 and 2009 drafts. we had zero to show for those drafts and it put us behind for years, forced us to over pay for FAs including our own. you have to hit on your top 2 picks and get a little lucky in lower rounds and hit on a couple of good ones.

 

[Nightman]

Even if they waived Romo today, Dallas could get under the cap, 41m cap hit and all. It would only leave them with like 3m is cap space, but his contract would be off the books for good. Not saying that they could or should do it, but it can be done.

They would have to restructure their top 8 contracts

Get Austin to take a pay cut(as opposed to having to wait until June 1st to cut him) and cut guys like Costa, Durant, Parnell and Lacedour

It wouldn't be that painful or mean losing any major guys. The point is that if they could cut him today, they can also trade him which is only a 28m cap hit. That means next year when the cap goes up even more and Romo's dead money is even less, it will be even easier to do the same. Romo's contract does not stand in the way of making any moves, now or in the future, if the right move can along.