Romo Just Set an All-Time Record

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percyhoward;3177769 said:
His updated passer rating is 97.0 after 15 games, so he has wrapped up his 4th consecutive season of 90+
2006 95.1
2007 97.4
2008 91.4
2009 97.0 (so far)

Until now, no one had ever started their career with 4 consecutive 90+ seasons.

Great, is this "Record" eligeable for a Grammy???
 

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I admit i thought TO was an overrated receiver who dropped too many
passes,atleast he has the ability to make a big play a good amount of
time.Roy Williams is an underachiever for our team and has become counter
productive and Jerry needs to come to terms with that and lessen his role
for the remainder of this season.
 

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AdamJT13;3177866 said:
Before the usual suspects come in here and start talking about how passer ratings are inflated these days and it's easy to get a 90 rating now, I'll post the entire list of quarterbacks who have had a rating of at least 90 in each of the past four seasons:

Tony Romo
Peyton Manning

:lmao2:

:bow:
 

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AdamJT13;3177866 said:
Before the usual suspects come in here and start talking about how passer ratings are inflated these days and it's easy to get a 90 rating now, I'll post the entire list of quarterbacks who have had a rating of at least 90 in each of the past four seasons:

Tony Romo
Peyton Manning


There is some truth to that Adam. QB ratings across the board are higher than they were 5, 10, 20 years ago.

Never did specific research on this. But it does feel like the average QB rating today is higher than it was in even Aikman's time.

The game is different today.

Of course this does not detract from Romo's performance. When you scale it or compare it to his contemporaries, he still shines.
 

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AdamJT13;3177866 said:
Before the usual suspects come in here and start talking about how passer ratings are inflated these days and it's easy to get a 90 rating now, I'll post the entire list of quarterbacks who have had a rating of at least 90 in each of the past four seasons:

Tony Romo
Peyton Manning

OUCH. That stings. :)


Sarge;3177969 said:
Wait until the OL is shored up and he has even more time.

No doubt. If this guy could get even a decent pass blocking O-Line there is no telling what he'd accomplish.

I'm thrilled we've got him.


Yeagermeister;3178162 said:
And back to back 4000 yd seasons

Which is very impressive for some QB who was supposedly a more mobile Marc Buldger (Spelling?) at best.
 

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I will admit I was down on him for the first time ever after the first Giants game and stated that I would reserve judgement on him until the end of the season. It's close enough now. He has really been lights out this year since that game.
 

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I am saying it now:
Romo is the best QB in the NFL's history.

You can all **** on me for saying it, but in a few years you will know it is true.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3178410 said:
Which is very impressive for some QB who was supposedly a more mobile Marc Buldger (Spelling?) at best.

and has no pocket presence :laugh2:
 

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Romo does not have back to back 4000 yard seasons. He missed 3 games last year and finished the season with 3448 yards.
 

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As a Cowboys fan in Packers country I see a lot of Cowboys and Packers games... from my perspective Romo and Aaron Rogers are hands down the best two young (under 30) QBs in the NFL.
 

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Back in 2006 I took all the data from pro-football-reference.com to determine the QB passer rating by decade. It probably does not include every single pass thrown, but this is what I came up with using that data.

1960s
66.68

1970s
65.40

1980s
74.53

1990s
77.31

2000s(up thru 2006)
79.84
 

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joseephuss;3178577 said:
Back in 2006 I took all the data from pro-football-reference.com to determine the QB passer rating by decade. It probably does not include every single pass thrown, but this is what I came up with using that data.

1960s
66.68

1970s
65.40

1980s
74.53

1990s
77.31

2000s(up thru 2006)
79.84

The league has definitely become more passer friendly since 1980. On the one hand it is easier for a QB to put up big numbers, on the other hand the game has become more dependent on the QB. So that begs the question: Is it easier or more difficult to be a QB today than it was in the 60s & 70s?

Back in the day, a QB who threw a couple of picks each game was not a big problem, now it is unacceptable. I think because defenses and running games were more of the focus back then the QB was less important than he is now (except that most back then called the plays).

Guys like Namath, Bradshaw, Stabler, etc. could throw as many, or more, INTs than TDs and still be winners. These days unless you are throwing twice as many TDs as INTs you are considered reckless with the ball. The top-4 rated QBs in 2009 are all 3-1 or better in TD/INT ratio! Romo is also 3-1 in that stat (24-8).

It is easier for a QB to achieve a 90+ passer rating in today's game but the expectations for a QB are also much higher now than they were in past years. A case in point is the perception that Romo throws a lot of INTs and Aikman didn't. The FACT is that Romo's career INT% is slightly LOWER than Troy's (2.96% - 2.99%). In fact Romo's INT% is the lowest for any long-time starting Cowboys QB! There's a little fact for the haters to choke on. :D
 

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THUMPER;3178629 said:
It is easier for a QB to achieve a 90+ passer rating in today's game, but...

sonnyboy;3178629 said:
QB ratings across the board are higher than they were 5, 10, 20 years ago.
Ratings are higher, but RANKINGS are not. A QB who ranked 7th in passer rating in the '70s is no better or worse than the one who ranks 7th this year. Assuming Romo finishes in the top 10 this year (which he almost certainly will), that would give him four straight top 10 seasons before age 30.

This completely removes the raw rating from the equation.

Romo is about to become just the 8th QB to do this since the merger. Personally, when I look at the other seven guys who did it, I think it's a more impressive accomplishment than the 4 straight 90+ seasons. It's just not as "catchy." But these players are some of very best ever to play the position.

You can draw your own conclusions about differences in eras, but there's no way you can say that it's somehow easier for a QB to rank higher in a league that has more teams.
 

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THUMPER;3178629 said:
The league has definitely become more passer friendly since 1980. On the one hand it is easier for a QB to put up big numbers, on the other hand the game has become more dependent on the QB. So that begs the question: Is it easier or more difficult to be a QB today than it was in the 60s & 70s?

Back in the day, a QB who threw a couple of picks each game was not a big problem, now it is unacceptable. I think because defenses and running games were more of the focus back then the QB was less important than he is now (except that most back then called the plays).

Guys like Namath, Bradshaw, Stabler, etc. could throw as many, or more, INTs than TDs and still be winners. These days unless you are throwing twice as many TDs as INTs you are considered reckless with the ball. The top-4 rated QBs in 2009 are all 3-1 or better in TD/INT ratio! Romo is also 3-1 in that stat (24-8).

It is easier for a QB to achieve a 90+ passer rating in today's game but the expectations for a QB are also much higher now than they were in past years. A case in point is the perception that Romo throws a lot of INTs and Aikman didn't. The FACT is that Romo's career INT% is slightly LOWER than Troy's (2.96% - 2.99%). In fact Romo's INT% is the lowest for any long-time starting Cowboys QB! There's a little fact for the haters to choke on. :D

Romo got to start off his career playing on a playoff caliber team. Aikman not only played as a rookie, but had to play on a terrible team in 1989. Put Romo in a similar situation and he would probably throw more interceptions as well. Minus his first two seasons Aikman's interception rate was 2.61% as a Cowboy.

It is certainly easier to put up higher passer ratings in todays game. That is what the NFL wants. They have changed or emphasized rules to make that happen. You can't just compare passer ratings across eras and jump to conclusions as to which QBs are better. You have to make relative comparisons and with those you can see that Romo is a very good QB that is important to the success of the Cowboys. They are better with him.
 

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joseephuss;3178577 said:
Back in 2006 I took all the data from pro-football-reference.com to determine the QB passer rating by decade. It probably does not include every single pass thrown, but this is what I came up with using that data.

1960s
66.68

1970s
65.40

1980s
74.53

1990s
77.31

2000s(up thru 2006)
79.84
Go to "years," "2009," and scroll down to "Passing Offense," then click "Rate," and look down at the middle of the chart where it says "Avg. team." That's the average team rating for 2009. You can do the same for every year. It's a cool feature, actually.

It reflects your observation that passer rating has gone up steadily over the years, especially comparing the '70s to the '90s, BUT...

This explains how only the most consistent QB's of today would be more likely to post 90+ seasons than the most consistent QB's of earlier eras. And it doesn't take RANKING--the great equalizer--into account.
 

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is it mathmatically possible for romo to finish with 100 or better?
 

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AdamJT13;3177866 said:
Before the usual suspects come in here and start talking about how passer ratings are inflated these days and it's easy to get a 90 rating now, I'll post the entire list of quarterbacks who have had a rating of at least 90 in each of the past four seasons:

Tony Romo
Peyton Manning

Impressive!
 
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