Romo looking out of Shape

[WPBCowboysFan]

Ah yours does it too eh

They all have memories like

Yet, there are those times you get this

But in the end

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

So "what" is e-lie? What is the "obvious"? Please explain. Also, is it not okay to respect and admire the talents of players on other teams and still be a fan of the Cowboys? Also, you make a handful of generalized statements without substantiating them with any credible facts.

If someone says something good about an opposing player is that considered "adoration" in your book? Why so butt-hurt about an NFL quarterback with two more superbowls than Romo?? :laugh2:

You coming out of the closet as well?

http://i398.***BLOCKED***/albums/pp63/caliche197/GiantsKickoff/robot-giants-fan.jpg

You and KJJ go to the same games?

 

[Red Dragon]

I have a lot more respect for fans who simply state up front that they are fans of another team.

 

[KJJ]

Wow. I just have nothing else to say with this stuff.

That's because you're claiming he looks "significantly" heavier based on a few pics that have been posted. Someone starts a thread every year at this time claiming he looks fat or out of shape. If he was "significantly" heavier it would have been mentioned by someone in the media that's seen him.

Saw an interview with him recently and he looked the same to me as he always does and not one single media member reported he ooked heavy. A QB looking fat and out of shape with mini camps approaching is going to make news. It's only on Cowboy boards that you ever read this stuff.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I have a lot more respect for fans who simply state up front that they are fans of another team.

I hear ya bro.

In all honesty I never really cared much about the goofball E-Lie one way or another. Its the Cowboys fans here who post their adoration for him that puts him higher up on my dislike list.

 

[TheSport78]

That's because you're claiming he looks "significantly" heavier based on a few pics that have been posted. Someone starts a thread every year at this time claiming he looks fat or out of shape. If he was "significantly" heavier it would have been mentioned by someone in the media that's seen him.

Saw an interview with him recently and he looked the same to me as he always does and not one single media member reported he ooked heavy. A QB looking fat and out of shape with mini camps approaching is going to make news. It's only on Cowboy boards that you ever read this stuff.

That's cool, but it's my opinion. Why does your opinion have more value than mine. Oh, it doesn't.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That's cool, but it's my opinion. Why does your opinion have more value than mine. Oh, it doesn't.

Oh yes it does, he'll tell you so. And he'll tell you why. His opinion = fact. He researches. And he doesnt just research the stats or the team, or the player, he researches posters.

Im guessing you are now officially on the research list bro.

I actually like KJJ, we just have differing opinions about E-Lie and differing opinions about opinions.

 

[KJJ]

My I respectfully suggest you request the search skills of KJJ - he claims to be able to find things via search in about 20 seconds. He implies that is the amount of time it takes to research/find entire histories of posters.

Click "search this forum" and type "E-Lie" and all the threads containing E-Lie come up with the most recent posts at the top. There's an entire page full of threads with posts containing "E-Lie" and they're all your posts because you're the only FAN who calls him that. I've never seen a FAN on any board invest so much time name calling and trashing a player like that.

You would think he stole your wife or girlfriend. :laugh2: You go out of your way to attack him in threads that have nothing to do with him. You might want to take a break from the board for awhile and have a sit down with Dr Phil. LOL

 

[TheSport78]

Oh yes it does, he'll tell you so. And he'll tell you why. His opinion = fact. He researches. And he doesnt just research the stats or the team, or the player, he researches posters.

Im guessing you are now officially on the research list bro.

I actually like KJJ, we just have differing opinions about E-Lie and differing opinions about opinions.

:laugh2: Well said...to each his own I guess. We all want Romo to do well, and that's the bottom line. I just don't believe he takes his training and/or nutrition as serious as he should. I just know I'm not the only one who feels this way about Romo!

 

[KJJ]

That's cool, but it's my opinion. Why does your opinion have more value than mine. Oh, it doesn't.

My opinion contains some valid points. If Romo is "significantly" heavier wouldn't someone from the media have mentioned it? He's the QB and if a QB shows up in May in front of the media looking "significantly" heavier it's going to be reported there's no way around it. If Romo was looking "significantly" heavier Garrett would be asked about it. Romo just had a cyst removed that was bothering him so if he was looking heavier it could have been used as a reason for him not working out and looking out of shape. Not one report has surfaced claiming he looks heavier or out of shape.

Your opinion is based on a series of photo's where some of us here don't think he looks any different. None of us have seen him in person recently and that's when you can tell if someone is "significantly" heavier. It's the ones who see him all the time that would know. The media has seen him in person and nothing about his weight has been reported. These people are news hounds and a QB who just signed a $108 million contract being "significantly" heavier in May would make NEWS.

 

[Red Dragon]

I wonder if it never occurs to Cowboys fans that they repeat themselves endlessly. The same things that are being said about Romo were probably said likewise about White, Bledsoe, Aikman (before he won Super Bowls,) Hogeboom, etc.

Instead of yapping the same thing over the course of decades, why not just.....stop repeating like a broken record for once.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

:laugh2: Well said...to each his own I guess. We all want Romo to do well, and that's the bottom line. I just don't believe he takes his training and/or nutrition as serious as he should. I just know I'm not the only one who feels this way about Romo!

That is the bottom line - we want Romo to lead this team to a SB win!

Its about the Cowboys!

I'll never understand the butt hurt some posters suffer when a fan posting here on a Cowboys forum doesnt heap adoration and praise on our rivals.

And I'll never understand why some posters here always want the "facts" to support everything. I mean my goodness, I dont have to look at a girl that is 8 months pregnant and then need lab results to confirm it. Nor do I need confirmation by the media. Some things are just obvious. Stats and facts and scale documentations just arent needed.

 

[Hostile]

I had nothing to contribute to the thread, but I always thought it was just a fun thread. I never got the value in analyzing throwing motion via a single photo.

If it had been a series of photos, that might've made more sense to me.

A series of photos is much more relevant. Never said differently.

Take a look at this photo.



Good mechanics or poor?

This is no different than the discussion from that thread. A trained eye can see proper mechanics and improper mechanics as well. I can tell you at least three things mechanically wrong in the picture above, but I won't. If someone wants to point them out they can.

A lot can be determined from a still shot. Even players study still shots on the sidelines when they aren't on the field. Before film became easy access all teams and coaches studied still photos to teach.

I have never understood why that topic was so offensive to some. It was a chance to learn something new.

 

[WoodysGirl]

A series of photos is much more relevant. Never said differently.

Take a look at this photo.

http://actorimg.com/images/bernie-kosar-04.jpg

Good mechanics or poor?

This is no different than the discussion from that thread. A trained eye can see proper mechanics and improper mechanics as well. I can tell you at least three things mechanically wrong in the picture above, but I won't. If someone wants to point them out they can.

A lot can be determined from a still shot. Even players study still shots on the sidelines when they aren't on the field. Before film became easy access all teams and coaches studied still photos to teach.

I have never understood why that topic was so offensive to some. It was a chance to learn something new.

I'll take your word for it re: the pic. I wouldn't know one way or the other.

re: the bold, I imagine it wasn't the topic, moreso the object of the topic. (Did I say that right?) It was a Drew Henson thread. It was a QB thread.

 

[KJJ]

I can make statements based on my perspective and what I see. Im not aware of any internet posting requirement that I have to live up to.

Once again, I watch football as you do. You have a history of glowing adoration for E-Lie while I dont. You have your opinion and I have mine. There is nothing more to it. Its not about stats or research. Its about watching football and what you see on the field. There is no "exposure" going on here. There is no spin or agenda. Its just opinions about a football player.

Here's a real shocker for you - your opinion is worth no more than mine, or mine yours.

You can make any statements you want based on your perspective but it's clear your perspective is based on your homerism and hatred for an opposing player. No knowledgeable, objective fan or anyone who covers the NFL would see Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien in Eli Manning. Eli is a much better QB than either of those QB's were and it's not even debatable. My history is that of a tell it like it is objective fan. I remove all emotion from my posts and call it like I see it regardless if it ruffles a few feathers here.

The sad part of FAN boards like this is you can't give an opposing player or team credit without having your fandom questioned. Your opinion here is only worth what your history is as a poster on this board. If your posts are tainted with knee jerk reactions, hatred and extreme biased views your opinions aren't going to be worth much to some. There's agenda's on this board and everyone knows it. Some naturally won't acknowledge it but they exist and some are beyond obvious.

 

[Hostile]

re: the bold, I imagine it wasn't the topic, moreso the object of the topic. (Did I say that right?) It was a Drew Henson thread. It was a QB thread.

And the person offering the opinion. Had it been almost anyone else, I doubt it would have ever been a big deal.

 

[TheSport78]

My opinion contains some valid points. If Romo is "significantly" heavier wouldn't someone from the media have mentioned it? He's the QB and if a QB shows up in May in front of the media looking "significantly" heavier it's going to be reported there's no way around it. If Romo was looking "significantly" heavier Garrett would be asked about it. Romo just had a cyst removed that was bothering him so if he was looking heavier it could have been used as a reason for him not working out and looking out of shape. Not one report has surfaced claiming he looks heavier or out of shape.

Your opinion is based on a series of photo's where some of us here don't think he looks any different. None of us have seen him in person recently and that's when you can tell if someone is "significantly" heavier. It's the ones who see him all the time that would know. The media has seen him in person and nothing about his weight has been reported. These people are news hounds and a QB who just signed a $108 million contract being "significantly" heavier in May would make NEWS.

Ha, so now the MEDIA is the voice of reason! Like I said, in my OPINION, this has been a problem for Romo in the past as well.

I'm not attempting to toot my own horn, but I have a 4 year degree in exercise physiology so I have a background in certain areas (currently going for my Masters). I suspect that if Bill Parcells were the HC, we'd see Romo at a better muscle to fat ratio. I was surprised he let Roy become a biscuit away from being a LB.

I wonder if it never occurs to Cowboys fans that they repeat themselves endlessly. The same things that are being said about Romo were probably said likewise about White, Bledsoe, Aikman (before he won Super Bowls,) Hogeboom, etc.

Instead of yapping the same thing over the course of decades, why not just.....stop repeating like a broken record for once.

Nah, that's okay. I'll keep voicing my opinion. Happy Memorial Day, though!

A series of photos is much more relevant. Never said differently.

Take a look at this photo.



Good mechanics or poor?

This is no different than the discussion from that thread. A trained eye can see proper mechanics and improper mechanics as well. I can tell you at least three things mechanically wrong in the picture above, but I won't. If someone wants to point them out they can.

A lot can be determined from a still shot. Even players study still shots on the sidelines when they aren't on the field. Before film became easy access all teams and coaches studied still photos to teach.

I have never understood why that topic was so offensive to some. It was a chance to learn something new.

Pretty pointless to compare physical appearance in multiple pictures to throwing motions in one picture IMO.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You can make any statements you want based on your perspective but it's clear your perspective is based on your homerism and hatred for an opposing player. No knowledgeable, objective fan or anyone who covers the NFL would see Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien in Eli Manning. Eli is a much better QB than either of those QB's were and it's not even debatable. My history is that of a tell it like it is objective fan. I remove all emotion from my posts and call it like I see it regardless if it ruffles a few feathers here.

The sad part of FAN boards like this is you can't give an opposing player or team credit without having your fandom questioned. Your opinion here is only worth what your history is as a poster on this board. If your posts are tainted with knee jerk reactions, hatred and extreme biased views your opinions aren't going to be worth much to some. There's agenda's on this board and everyone knows it. Some naturally won't acknowledge it but they exist and some are beyond obvious.

Mark Rypien was a SB MVP, No?

Mark Rypien used to trip over his own feet just like Eli, No?

The year Mark Rypien won the SB - he had a better year as a QB than Eli did either year he won a SB, No? Now, you being the research, objective guru that you are would objectively adjust for the inflated passing yds/#'s of this era in order to make a fair comparison, correct? Now, on the other hand if you didnt have to watch all or most of Rypien's games as I did I might be asking a bit much of you on this one.

Now, I might add, that since I watched a whole lot of Mark Rypien his good year I know what he was. And since I get to see a whole lot of Eli I know what he is. I can make that comparison because I am familiar with both guys. And because I am familiar, I can note the similarities. Maybe you arent able to do that. And if not, then maybe you arent able to make a credible claim about my knowledge and bias credibility. Maybe you just didnt/havent seen enough of both to make a legitimate statement.

 

[Red Dragon]

What's wrong with saying that Tony Romo and Eli Manning are both very good quarterbacks, just surrounded by different levels of talent and having had different circumstances?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That is the bottom line - we want Romo to lead this team to a SB win!

Its about the Cowboys!

I'll never understand the butt hurt some posters suffer when a fan posting here on a Cowboys forum doesnt heap adoration and praise on our rivals.

And I'll never understand why some posters here always want the "facts" to support everything. I mean my goodness, I dont have to look at a girl that is 8 months pregnant and then need lab results to confirm it. Nor do I need confirmation by the media. Some things are just obvious. Stats and facts and scale documentations just arent needed.

Believe it or not, some fans come here for actual, logical football discussion. They don't enjoy seeing all the homers who's best arguments are to throw around 5th grade insults and name calling at opposing players just because they arn't on the Dallas Cowboys.

I've been a Cowboys fan since i was 5 years old and through these past awful years i've still remained the biggest fan there is.. and i will always be one, but that doesn't mean i won't acknowledge that certain players on other teams can be good as well. Your persistent whining and name calling against Eli Manning, and insisting that he's garbage and didn't do much of anything to help his teams win the Super Bowl's that they won is just the worst kind of nonsense that this board offers.

Then you insist that anyone that disagrees with you and tries to give credit where credit is due must be a rival fan undercover. Honestly, the whole schtick is long past getting old, my friend.