Romo Now Has Unquestioned Leadership Role

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Most academic definitions will define Leadership as the act of leading a group or organization. However, most clinical definitions will not elaborate on the fitness of the followers or the willingness of the followers to follow good leadership.

During the off-season, Sapp raised a stupid but interesting point about Romo not being able to lead because he is from Eastern Illinois. This point has nothing to do with Romo's ability to lead but it has everything to do with the stilted mindset of some veterans.

Like the old axiom stated, "You cannot teach an old dog new tricks", there is a lot of truth to that. Notwithstanding the old saying, not all old dogs cannot be taught new tricks, but the rule does holds sway with the majority. No matter what Romo accomplished on the field, it would be never good enough for fools like Sapp. Not saying that the sentiment was pervasive throughout the older OL here but filling voids of leadership without allowing the leader to do so can be equally damaging. Who will the OL likely listen to when they need to get their heads out of their rear? Romo? Davis? Colombo? Gurode? Suppose they listen to someone that has their head up their rear too, see what I mean?

For example, I am currently in the position of leadership as a lead engineer. Before adding one of my older colleagues to my group, we had a 99.8% first time quality on all of our releases and 98% on time delivery, all with young first and second year engineers. All of my young guys are hungry and easily directed but the new older guy constantly makes unilateral decisions that conflict with my directives. In some cases the decisions are better but the type of engineering that we are doing, we cannot implement a different method, unless the entire integrated product team is informed. When called on it, he sulks becomes distant, conforms, and then reverts to his old trying to steer the ship methods, thank goodness he is retiring soon. :). As a result of his free lancing, the mechanics see something different that is not necessarily wrong, raises a flag, gets QC involved, only to find out that there is nothing wrong. Time and money is wasted because the individual rowed in a different direction.

With the recent cuts of Davis, Gurode, and Colombo, and the not so recent cut of Adams, Romo is now surround by malleable offensive lineman that will respond to him when he scolds them after missing an assignment that leaves him lying on his back.

Statistically speaking and personality wise it is easy to see that Romo is a leader but we have had some terrible followers and it started up front with the OL. Call it entitlement or the inflexibility of an old dog not wanting to change. How many times have you seen Romo knocked on his rear with Davis and Gurode not offering to fix his shoulder pads or offer him a hand up? Mind you as I have said earlier, not all old dogs are this way. Kosier, is the consummate professional and like many of the old timers that I have had the pleasure of working with, he understands and responds to change.

Besides, being a good player, Kosier has been a good soldier throughout. He is clearly an old dog that is willing and able to learn new tricks. Speaking of soldiers, there is a reason why the military does not actively recruit from older demographics; they are too hard to control and too set in their ways to conform. The strength of any organization whether it is football or company, etc, is the ability to conform around a specific goal and for the individuals to do what they suppose to do when it is time to do it.

In my opinion, our OL will be stronger because we now have some good soldiers who will work to get better and not stagnate because they already know it all.

I will leave y'all with a coach Duhe quote, my former defensive coordinator,
Give me 11 idiots on Defense, so dumb that they can't recognize their names if it was spelled out on a billboard in Madison Square Gardens. As long as those idiots do what I say when I say to do it. We will kick the **** out of 11 super stars doing their own thang.
 
there is something to say about being young, dumb and full of ###

:)

by the way I agree my friend
 
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I like how you tied the military into it, and you make the strongest point about knowing when to trim the fat. We have a problem with this in the military now, and what we have happening is young, promising leaders departing the service at an alarming rate due to piss poor senior leadership.

Great post, adbutcher. I really enjoyed it.
 
The strange part is Romo is the 2nd oldest player on the offense at 31 which makes him and Kosier 32 the elder spokesman on offense.
 
Enjoyed the post...but that coach couldn't have been a Linebacker Coach from a school like A&I under Gil Steinke could he? :)

And I agree on team direction implied now...as Jerry has been steering the team this way for the past three years. Believe that one or not.

And Jason Garrett has field command. That is real and current leadership for a fact...in my opinion.
 
casmith07;4077617 said:
:clap2:

I like how you tied the military into it, and you make the strongest point about knowing when to trim the fat. We have a problem with this in the military now, and what we have happening is young, promising leaders departing the service at an alarming rate due to piss poor senior leadership.

Great post, adbutcher. I really enjoyed it.

That is why I have continually returned an encouragement to Godspeed in your own endeavors, Sir.
 
Hostile;4077518 said:
Your coach's quote is sig worthy. Was that A. J. Duhe?


Im stealing it.....I got chewed out after our first scrimmage,....my ILB's played bad, very bad....and didn't do their job. So, therefore I will be using that line today! and i absolutly love it too.........
 
dffl11;4077641 said:
Im stealing it.....I got chewed out after our first scrimmage,....my ILB's played bad, very bad....and didn't do their job. So, therefore I will be using that line today! and i absolutly love it too.........
Good for you. Keep it alive.
 
CCBoy;4077632 said:
Enjoyed the post...but that coach couldn't have been a Linebacker Coach from a school like A&I under Gil Steinke could he? :)

And I agree on team direction implied now...as Jerry has been steering the team this way for the past three years. Believe that one or not.

And Jason Garrett has field command. That is real and current leadership for a fact...in my opinion.

Could have been before becoming our DC. When we played for him, as a freshman we hated his guts but as we got older we learned to appreciate him. Our schemes were very simple but very effective because the entire D was on the same page. Needless to say we won more than we lost and most of that success can be attributed to him.
 
casmith07;4077617 said:
:clap2:

I like how you tied the military into it, and you make the strongest point about knowing when to trim the fat. We have a problem with this in the military now, and what we have happening is young, promising leaders departing the service at an alarming rate due to piss poor senior leadership.

Great post, adbutcher. I really enjoyed it.

From a discipline and organizational standpoint there are a lot of similarities between the military and football.

You still need the wisdom of the elders and experienced people but you have to have the youth to execute and overcome adversity despite the wisdom of the elders, lol.
 
Doomsday101;4077621 said:
The strange part is Romo is the 2nd oldest player on the offense at 31 which makes him and Kosier 32 the elder spokesman on offense.

Great point. I especially love when Romo allude to one of the lineman or WR as young guys. Romo, without a doubt is the leader of the offense, Garrett and Jones made sure of it. We have another 4 years of outstanding Romo football and he will either be close or take us all of the way to the promise. The stage is now set.
 
adbutcher;4077690 said:
Could have been before becoming our DC. When we played for him, as a freshman we hated his guts but as we got older we learned to appreciate him. Our schemes were very simple but very effective because the entire D was on the same page. Needless to say we won more than we lost and most of that success can be attributed to him.

Hoooah!:starspin
 
I think Romo's thoughts on leadership carry a lot of weight.

The fact is, a freshman is going to have a hard time being the leader on any team. But as years pass and more experience is gained, people start to look towards you.
 
It should also be remembered that several of the OL members you mention were starters when Romo was a 4th string, UDFA QB who wasn't activated on game day. It's very hard to accomplish the kind of role reversal that was required when he became starting QB. This group only knows him as a starting QB and it should make his job a lot easier.
 
Really good thread. I think the pendulum as switched on both points that have been made.

The players look to Romo now as a leader due to the position, his experience and his age and Romo has accepted the leadership role now due to his position, his experience and his age.

It's going to be a fun ride the next few years.
 
swj010;4078336 said:
It should also be remembered that several of the OL members you mention were starters when Romo was a 4th string, UDFA QB who wasn't activated on game day. It's very hard to accomplish the kind of role reversal that was required when he became starting QB. This group only knows him as a starting QB and it should make his job a lot easier.

Great point.

And thanks for posting adbutcher. Very enjoyable read. I'm in the military so I can def relate to your correlation between football and the military. Good stuff man. :)
 
adbutcher;4077490 said:
Most academic definitions will define Leadership as the act of leading a group or organization. However, most clinical definitions will not elaborate on the fitness of the followers or the willingness of the followers to follow good leadership.

During the off-season, Sapp raised a stupid but interesting point about Romo not being able to lead because he is from Eastern Illinois. This point has nothing to do with Romo's ability to lead but it has everything to do with the stilted mindset of some veterans.

Like the old axiom stated, "You cannot teach an old dog new tricks", there is a lot of truth to that. Notwithstanding the old saying, not all old dogs cannot be taught new tricks, but the rule does holds sway with the majority. No matter what Romo accomplished on the field, it would be never good enough for fools like Sapp. Not saying that the sentiment was pervasive throughout the older OL here but filling voids of leadership without allowing the leader to do so can be equally damaging. Who will the OL likely listen to when they need to get their heads out of their rear? Romo? Davis? Colombo? Gurode? Suppose they listen to someone that has their head up their rear too, see what I mean?

For example, I am currently in the position of leadership as a lead engineer. Before adding one of my older colleagues to my group, we had a 99.8% first time quality on all of our releases and 98% on time delivery, all with young first and second year engineers. All of my young guys are hungry and easily directed but the new older guy constantly makes unilateral decisions that conflict with my directives. In some cases the decisions are better but the type of engineering that we are doing, we cannot implement a different method, unless the entire integrated product team is informed. When called on it, he sulks becomes distant, conforms, and then reverts to his old trying to steer the ship methods, thank goodness he is retiring soon. :). As a result of his free lancing, the mechanics see something different that is not necessarily wrong, raises a flag, gets QC involved, only to find out that there is nothing wrong. Time and money is wasted because the individual rowed in a different direction.

With the recent cuts of Davis, Gurode, and Colombo, and the not so recent cut of Adams, Romo is now surround by malleable offensive lineman that will respond to him when he scolds them after missing an assignment that leaves him lying on his back.

Statistically speaking and personality wise it is easy to see that Romo is a leader but we have had some terrible followers and it started up front with the OL. Call it entitlement or the inflexibility of an old dog not wanting to change. How many times have you seen Romo knocked on his rear with Davis and Gurode not offering to fix his shoulder pads or offer him a hand up? Mind you as I have said earlier, not all old dogs are this way. Kosier, is the consummate professional and like many of the old timers that I have had the pleasure of working with, he understands and responds to change.

Besides, being a good player, Kosier has been a good soldier throughout. He is clearly an old dog that is willing and able to learn new tricks. Speaking of soldiers, there is a reason why the military does not actively recruit from older demographics; they are too hard to control and too set in their ways to conform. The strength of any organization whether it is football or company, etc, is the ability to conform around a specific goal and for the individuals to do what they suppose to do when it is time to do it.

In my opinion, our OL will be stronger because we now have some good soldiers who will work to get better and not stagnate because they already know it all.

I will leave y'all with a coach Duhe quote, my former defensive coordinator,



Speaking of know it all, love how you tossed in what ya do for a living PLUS decided in your own opinion of our the new guys are going to react WITHOUT knowing how the guys are going to react. You dont know what the OL is going to do because we dont know what HH will do with them. You are hoping like a fan what will happen, but concrete evidence is called that because when reality hits, well it just hurts.

We dont know which player is going to do what and we dont know what how the rookies will handle the NFL pressure. The game is a big gap from college and we are hoping this plan pans out, but like most of the older plans, it just might fall flat on its face.

And being 30 or even 30 plus isnt old and WE as people NOT dogs, can still learn. But there is way more to the game than just learning and we're going to have to see who has technique and the guts to play at this level. And frankly even with a youth movement its more productive to have your Oline men around 30 than it is say the RB.

Thats enuff from me.
 

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