Romo says he will get better in the future

[Idgit]

"Colossal waste" in developing a young QB?

San Fran selects Kaepernick when Alex Smith was on the roster.
The Eagles front office has the vision to select Nick Foles.
Seattle had the foresight in drafting Russell Wilson when the opportunity presented itself.
Green Bay took a chance on A. Rogers when Favre was still on the roster.
Carolina did not pass on Newton.
Falcons drafted Matt Ryan.
Lions picked Stafford.
Etc.

Point is ~ developing a young QB should not be an overlooked approach for a front office. Having a young QB that you can build a team around is a better overall option than maintaining the status quo with an older QB with a unfriendly contract (the contract has ramifications for future player personnel decisions) who for whatever reason is unable to compel a team to post-season success.
Older established QB's that have won Super Bowls are rightfully awarded flexible on criticism of contract/performance ~ the Manning brothers, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco.

Romo is on the downside of his career and there is no replacement on the roster.
The Dallas organization lacked a vision in the past & currently they are left with an aging QB and a bloated contract on top of the situation.
I equate 'delivering' on a contract with playoff wins, Super Bowl victories, leadership and inspiring your teammates to perform at the highest level ~ that is the Cowboy standard.

You're not supporting your point well when the QBs you use as examples are a retread Mike Vick, Alex Smith, Matt Hasselbeck, Jimmy Clausen/Matt Moore/Brian St. Pierre, Dan Orlovski, and Joey Harrington/Chris Redman. There are reasons you invest in those guys. Brett Favre is the only example of a decent QB on your list, and he turned 36 in 2005...the year Rodgers was drafted. Tony was, what, 32 at the time he signed his extension in 2013? To have a guy in place to replace him, you'd have to have drafted him in the 2011 season. That'd have cost you Tyron Smith and probably Bruce Carter or at least Demarco Murray to move up from 10 to get your pick of the second best guy on your board. Who you taking from that group: Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton? I guess, if you had the foresight of hindsight, you could have bundled the Carter and Murray picks and drafted Kaepernick and just let a better player than him walk in FA for nothing. That's about your best-case alternative. So, yah, I'd say that would have been a colossal waste of resources with a high likelihood of being a disaster for Dallas.

As to your standard for delivering on a QB contract....your QB has how many passing attempts on average, would you say in a football game? Compared to how many snaps in a game for both teams, overall? He's got an opportunity to do something on, what, a quarter of the team's plays? And when I say he's got an opportunity to do something, keep in mind that the other guy's QB has an opportunity to do something with his snaps, too, so we're really talking about the incremental difference in Tony's play over the other guy's play on about a quarter of his team's snaps. This is the basis you use for judging whether or not a guy has delivered on his contract? And how are you measuring 'leadership' and 'inspiring your teammates to perform' during that fraction of the team snaps in that context again? Please.

If we're going to talk about Tony Romo, let's at least criticize him in a way that makes sense.

 

[Nova]

No, he doesn't. And he doesn't have the most interceptions in the "final minutes" either. And even if he did, I would bet any amount of money that he doesn't have the worst interception percentage, which is all that matters. Again, really wish our own fans would stop perpetuating these lies. All of these fake stats have been blown up countless times on here.

You may have a point there, regarding int%. One thing I failed to do was acknowledge that, yes... part of the reason Romo's late game blunders are so prominent is because of their frequency; same goes for his 4th quarter comebacks.

But you have to be kidding if you don't think he needs to cut back on the boneheaded plays late in games.

 

[the_h0wey]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...dallas-cowboys

A lot has happened since Tony Romo took over as starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys in 2006.

There's been steady production, big pay days, physical setbacks, and yes, more than a fair share of disappointment for both player and organization.
Romo continues to keep an optimistic perspective as he begins his ninth year as a starter. In an exclusive interview with NFL Media's Desmond Purnell, Romo explained his forward-leaning mindset.
"You know I'm not into the looking back kind of thing," Romo told Purnell when asked how he'd sum up his career. "You know when I'm done playing I'll do that but right now it's about improving and I'm not done growing as a football player, I have to keep getting better.
"If I don't get better, it doesn't help our football team. We weren't good enough before and it just means that I have to be a better player to help this team get to where we are trying to go and that's my ultimate goal each year."
In reality, Romo has been plenty good enough in his time in Dallas. It's the cast around him that never seems to be up to snuff. The Cowboys are a shiny McMansion built on a bum foundation.
Year after year, it's Romo who pays the price for that shoddy craftsmanship.
In the latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast," the heroes debate the Super Bowl windows of Brady and Manning.

Did anyone expect him to say he's going to get worse?

 

[Idgit]

I think that is smart to draft the QB for the future, but this was not the year and it was certainly not Manziel either. Good point about the above teams, but if you break it down, all of them really needed QB's at the time.

Alex Smith - one good year and he was awful for most of his career in SF. The prototypical bus driver.
Eagles had Mike Vick who can never stay healthy. There was no intention on taking Foles to be a starter and in my opinion we will really see how good he is this year. Jury is out. Another year of film on him as well.
Seattle picked up Matt Flynn in FA another unknown commodity. But they lucked out on that one. He ended up getting cut, so that signing didn't look too bright.
I give credit to GB. That was a smart move.
Carolina had picked Jimmy Clausen - they needed a QB in the worst way. Not that big of a gamble.
Falcons - took Ryan, again, they had nobody on their roster and needed a QB in the worst way.
Same with Detroit, they had nobody and needed a QB. Shoot this is the best Lions QB since Kramer, lol.

I think that they need to draft a QB next year for sure......

And, for the record, we do need to be looking now for a talented and resource-expensive young QB to be in place by the time we're actually ready to replace Tony. I'm only saying that doing it prior to the last extension would have been a dumb thing to do tactically given Tony's age and the team's other needs.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Romo is 34 and has been getting hurt...QB arm strength does not get better each year at his age
just look at Manning and you can see a QB who has to out think rather than overpower passes to
fit them into tight spaces. I hope he's right and can finally get a team that can help him get over
the hump, but I think everyone must admit that Witten's and Romo's windows are closing ever so
fast.

Bingo! As anyone who's passed that 30+ threshold knows, admit it or not, your physical abilities rarely "get better". It's just a fact of life. You can train and train all you want, but you're running on the metabolism-treadmill that's quickly speeding up, while yours is slowly winding down.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I'll try to be polite.

Of the things you listed above, I would assume continued improvement in pass selection and last minute decisions are something a QB can improve on regardless of age. You would think he would aspire to always get better at that.
Other things like continued improvement in reading defenses, looking off the defense, footwork, not checking out plays at certain times, etc, are also things that can always be improved on.
Hey, Tom Brady had 3 ints at the end of games last year. So even he can improve. Even Brees and Manning can still improve on the occasional mental lapse...and they are the elite. So certainly Romo is not out of line to aspire to get better.
No reason to be snarky about it.

The comment on one player getting into the playoffs and winning...well...you know better than that and where just trying to be mean-spirited. So I'll dismiss that one.

With alll doo respect, Romo is and never will be Tom Brady. So Brady kin thow 5 pix per game and he will still half more rings than Romo half thumbs and 2 MVPs from Super Bowls (that might be 2 more Super Bowl MVPs than Romo half, but I could be wrong).

So please, let us resolve to ax congress for a law that says Romo cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as Tom Brady. That is like comparing Robert De Niro to Elvis Presley in acting ability.

But I do agree wif you that for Romo to espire to be better is not out of line. He has to expire to lead his team to the playoffs (baby steps) Then win one more playoff game that he now half. Then maybe one day help win a Super Bowl. But you and I and Bob Dole knows that that won't happen with Romo. His proclivity to shut down mentally in last-minute crucial games is legend. And he now half a defense that potentially will be as bad as last year's.

So where do it leaf us? It leaf us spitting at each other about Romo.
Romo is a great QB when it comes to personal stats. But those personal stats does not warm me in December when I am watching OTHER teams in the playoff. It only bring me shudders.

I remain your fan (not really) and your pal (yes, I half fond feelinks for you). Just don't go overboard on Romo's potential. We half seen his potential and it remains: 1 lifetime playoff win under his expensive, diamond-studded belt.
As usual, great comebacks and analysis leaf me dizzy so I half to lay down and resusitate and rehabilitate.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

With alll doo respect, Romo is and never will be Tom Brady. So Brady kin thow 5 pix per game and he will still half more rings than Romo half thumbs and 2 MVPs from Super Bowls (that might be 2 more Super Bowl MVPs than Romo half, but I could be wrong).

So please, let us resolve to ax congress for a law that says Romo cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as Tom Brady. That is like comparing Robert De Niro to Elvis Presley in acting ability.

But I do agree wif you that for Romo to espire to be better is not out of line. He has to expire to lead his team to the playoffs (baby steps) Then win one more playoff game that he now half. Then maybe one day help win a Super Bowl. But you and I and Bob Dole knows that that won't happen with Romo. His proclivity to shut down mentally in last-minute crucial games is legend. And he now half a defense that potentially will be as bad as last year's.

So where do it leaf us? It leaf us spitting at each other about Romo.
Romo is a great QB when it comes to personal stats. But those personal stats does not warm me in December when I am watching OTHER teams in the playoff. It only bring me shudders.

I remain your fan (not really) and your pal (yes, I half fond feelinks for you). Just don't go overboard on Romo's potential. We half seen his potential and it remains: 1 lifetime playoff win under his expensive, diamond-studded belt.
As usual, great comebacks and analysis leaf me dizzy so I half to lay down and resusitate and rehabilitate.

That's right. I would forgive Romo for the bonehead plays he sometimes makes if he had brought us 3 SB titles.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You may have a point there, regarding int%. One thing I failed to do was acknowledge that, yes... part of the reason Romo's late game blunders are so prominent is because of their frequency; same goes for his 4th quarter comebacks.

But you have to be kidding if you don't think he needs to cut back on the boneheaded plays late in games.

Not kidding at all, I have yet to see any evidence at all that he makes an abnormal amount of late game mistakes given the gigantic amount of opportunities to make those mistakes being on a mediocre team creates. I would need to see a lot more data before I made any conclusion. Chad Henne has only made 50 starts to over 100 for Romo so his name looks a lot worse than Romo's on the list. And I'd be willing to bet there are a lot worse ratios than that. I would bet that Brady has far fewer attempts in those situations as well, as he had a dominating team that tends to avoid close 4th quarter games.

 

[TheCount]

He could imply (correctly) that the team around him needs to improve rather than saying "I need to improve," could he not?

I don't think he has much control over that, and I don't think it's in his personality to say something like that. Anyway, if he said anything other than "I" and "We", the media would be full of breathless reports about how disgruntled Romo is - Werder would love to hear something like that, so he can get his weasley face on TV.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

That's right. I would forgive Romo for the bonehead plays he sometimes makes if he had brought us 3 SB titles.

Ohhhhhh, don't write that! His (hard-core) defenders will write: "A team wins a Super Bowl, not a QB." But a QB is supposed to LEAD the team and lead it to victory. usually conveniently forgotten in all the love for Romo.
Romo: great personal stats
Cowboys: years of being also-rans and never-dids under him.

 

[5Stars]

Ohhhhhh, don't write that! His (hard-core) defenders will write: "A team wins a Super Bowl, not a QB." But a QB is supposed to LEAD the team and lead it to victory. usually conveniently forgotten in all the love for Romo.
Romo: great personal stats
Cowboys: years of being also-rans and never-dids under him.

Garbage....as usual. smh

 

[Nation]

You may have a point there, regarding int%. One thing I failed to do was acknowledge that, yes... part of the reason Romo's late game blunders are so prominent is because of their frequency; same goes for his 4th quarter comebacks.

But you have to be kidding if you don't think he needs to cut back on the boneheaded plays late in games.

I ran that same criteria for Touchdowns here, and the leaders are as follows:
Most TDs in 4th Quarter or OT
Score Tied or Leading by 7 or Fewer
Tony Romo: 21
Aaron Rodgers: 13
Tom Brady: 12
Jay Cutler: 11
Peyton Manning: 10
Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning tied with: 9

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Garbage....as usual. smh

As usual, classy, eliquent and introspective you are.

 

[Nova]

Not kidding at all, I have yet to see any evidence at all that he makes an abnormal amount of late game mistakes given the gigantic amount of opportunities to make those mistakes being on a mediocre team creates. I would need to see a lot more data before I made any conclusion. Chad Henne has only made 50 starts to over 100 for Romo so his name looks a lot worse than Romo's on the list. And I'd be willing to bet there are a lot worse ratios than that. I would bet that Brady has far fewer attempts in those situations as well, as he had a dominating team that tends to avoid close 4th quarter games.

Last 5 minutes of game-- int% per att (since 2010)

1. Rodgers: 0%
2. Stafford: 2%
3. Brady: 2.4%
4. Peyton: 2.7%
5. Luck: 2.9%
6. Ben: 3.3%
7. Ryan: 3.3%
8. Newton: 3.4%
9. Cutler: 3.4%
10. Romo: 3.8%
11. Dalton: 3.8%
12. Brees: 4.2%
13. Palmer: 5.1%
14. Rivers: 5.4%
15. Eli: 5.7%

So a little far down in relation to his peers. But not extremely bad.

QB rating in those final 5 minutes?

1. Rodgers: 135.1
2. Peyton: 95.3
3. Ben: 90.2
4. Luck: 90
5. Stafford: 86.3
6. Brees: 86.1
7. Eli: 83.2
8. Newton: 82.2
9. Brady: 81.9
10. Cutler: 81.7
11. Romo: 77.8
12. Palmer: 77.2
13. Ryan: 75.1
14. Rivers: 66.6
15. Dalton: 62.1

 

[dstovall5]

Last 5 minutes of game-- int% per att (since 2010)

1. Rodgers: 0%
2. Stafford: 2%
3. Brady: 2.4%
4. Peyton: 2.7%
5. Luck: 2.9%
6. Ben: 3.3%
7. Ryan: 3.3%
8. Newton: 3.4%
9. Cutler: 3.4%
10. Romo: 3.8%
11. Dalton: 3.8%
12. Brees: 4.2%
13. Palmer: 5.1%
14. Rivers: 5.4%
15. Eli: 5.7%

So a little far down in relation to his peers. But not extremely bad.

QB rating in those final 5 minutes?

1. Rodgers: 135.1
2. Peyton: 95.3
3. Ben: 90.2
4. Luck: 90
5. Stafford: 86.3
6. Brees: 86.1
7. Eli: 83.2
8. Newton: 82.2
9. Brady: 81.9
10. Cutler: 81.7
11. Romo: 77.8
12. Palmer: 77.2
13. Ryan: 75.1
14. Rivers: 66.6
15. Dalton: 62.1

So what you're saying is people are actually overstating his interceptions in the 4th, right? Because the posts in this thread make it seem like Romo has been atrocious and just a turnover machine in crunch time

... Yet that's not even close to the truth, no surprise there. Heck, he's actually played better then he normally does according to those stats you posted. Most "realist" here say Romo is ranked 12-16 out of all the QBs, and on those rankings he's #10 and #11. Not too shabby, though not stellar either.

 

[DFWJC]

So what you're saying is people are actually overstating his interceptions in the 4th, right? Because the posts in this thread make it seem like Romo has been atrocious and just a turnover machine in crunch time

... Yet that's not even close to the truth, no surprise there. Heck, he's actually played better then he normally does according to those stats you posted. Most "realist" here say Romo is ranked 12-16 out of all the QBs, and on those rankings he's #10 and #11. Not too shabby, though not stellar either.

If you are playing from behind, those #s are radically stacked against you.
What shocked me was the Stafford int %. That's hard to believe.
Also, it says Rodgers has no ints in the last 5 minutes of any games in the last 4 years. For sure he does.

This (posted by Nation) was pretty nice though...

Most TDs in 4th Quarter or OT
Score Tied or Leading by 7 or Fewer

Tony Romo: 21
Aaron Rodgers: 13
Tom Brady: 12
Jay Cutler: 11
Peyton Manning: 10
Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning tied with: 9

 

[rpntex]

You can always tell a lot about a person by the way they speak. It's always some little pipsqueak hiding behind a keyboard who calls others stupid or other derogatory names when they have disagreements.

Case in point?

 

[jobberone]

Romo's INT% over his career is 2.7. Peyton's is 2.6. Brady 2.0 and that is GOOD. Romo has been less than 2.0 3 of the last 5 years. The other two years not elite. So he still could improve. INTs in desperate situations are going to be greater than that though for all QBs.

It's not rocket science that INTs are going to go down for a good QB when they play with a lead and/or play with a D that can protect a lead.

 

[rpntex]

Eh. Since 2006 he has the most interceptions in the final minutes of games, in close game situations. Granted, there aren't as many QBs from that era that are still playing. Both Mannings, Brady, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Brees... am I missing anyone?

Regardless of how other quarterbacks are doing. Romo has to do better in late game situations.

Not necessarily doubting what you say, but I'd like to see a link to such information. What's more, how many of those other QBs were straddled with w defense that couldn't put a game away? Kind of the double-edged sword thing---Romo wouldn't have near as many late-game INTs, nor as many late-game winners, if he wasn't constantly playing from behind.

 

[DFWJC]

You're not supporting your point well when the QBs you use as examples are a retread Mike Vick, Alex Smith, Matt Hasselbeck, Jimmy Clausen/Matt Moore/Brian St. Pierre, Dan Orlovski, and Joey Harrington/Chris Redman. There are reasons you invest in those guys. Brett Favre is the only example of a decent QB on your list, and he turned 36 in 2005...the year Rodgers was drafted. Tony was, what, 32 at the time he signed his extension in 2013? To have a guy in place to replace him, you'd have to have drafted him in the 2011 season. That'd have cost you Tyron Smith and probably Bruce Carter or at least Demarco Murray to move up from 10 to get your pick of the second best guy on your board. Who you taking from that group: Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton? I guess, if you had the foresight of hindsight, you could have bundled the Carter and Murray picks and drafted Kaepernick and just let a better player than him walk in FA for nothing. That's about your best-case alternative. So, yah, I'd say that would have been a colossal waste of resources with a high likelihood of being a disaster for Dallas.

As to your standard for delivering on a QB contract....your QB has how many passing attempts on average, would you say in a football game? Compared to how many snaps in a game for both teams, overall? He's got an opportunity to do something on, what, a quarter of the team's plays? And when I say he's got an opportunity to do something, keep in mind that the other guy's QB has an opportunity to do something with his snaps, too, so we're really talking about the incremental difference in Tony's play over the other guy's play on about a quarter of his team's snaps. This is the basis you use for judging whether or not a guy has delivered on his contract? And how are you measuring 'leadership' and 'inspiring your teammates to perform' during that fraction of the team snaps in that context again? Please.

If we're going to talk about Tony Romo, let's at least criticize him in a way that makes sense.

Yeah....he seemed to miss on almost every single one of his examples there.
Pretty much every case except maybe Favre were situations where the team was dying to find a new QB.