Romo Time

[nalam]

I saw some great blitzes by the Giants tonight. Guarantee Romo would have been knocked out of the game by some of the hits Dak took.

So be it ! At least we would know for sure .

 

[mattjames2010]

The NFL.com scouting report is just an example. All you have to do is google for Dak Prescott scouting report writeups from actual NFL talent scouts, and you will see the same things.

Again, you know better than all of these NFL personnel people, and SEC scouts? Please. Give me a break.

Not one single person anywhere has cried about Dak's noodle arm or lack of armstrength all year. NOT ONE. The lack of zip he sometimes has is not because of armstrength ,but rather poor footwork which has dogged him his entire time at Miss St.

Seeing as how many "NFL personnel people" get things wrong consistently, I would say at times i scout players better. Stop glorifying the scouting process in the NFL, these people aren't building a shuttle to Mars.

And I already provided a link saying EXACTLY what I am saying. You can try again though. This time, with examples of his brilliant arm strength.

 

[DIAF]

I would say at times i scout players better.

Pack it up, folks. This guy thinks he's better than the pros.

 

[mattjames2010]

Pack it up, folks. This guy thinks he's better than the pros.

Not all, there are some quality scouts out there.

And I'm not just speaking for myself, I think there are multiple people even on this forum that are better than a lot of scouts. Yet again, you are glorifying scouting.

And you can retract the "No one is saying hurr durr" at any point now. But my guess, you'll ignore it.

 

[mattjames2010]

That same article mentions that his arm strength is fine, but his long throws are bad. Long passes are the one pass that depend the LEAST on arm strength - they are timing throws that depend more on touch. You don't need a cannon to throw a 40 yard rainbow.

Keep trying.

You sure are putting in a lot of effort to **** on Dak Prescott...im beginning to wonder why.

LOL THE REPORT SAID THE SAME FREAKIN' THING I SAID!

1. When stepping into his throws, he still has issues with velocity
2. Inconsistent zip on passes after 10 yards

Haha, the crap was nearly word for word for what I said. You're backing yourself into a corner. Try again.

 

[DIAF]

I'm not backing myself into any corner, I'm not the one telling everyone HEY LISTEN TO ME I SCOUT BETTER THAN THE PROFESSIONALS THESE GUYS AREN'T ROCKET SCIENTISTS.

Look I get it, you are very mad and upset that your boy Romo isn't starting for whatever reason but you don't have to go making garbage up about Dak. It's perfectly fine to just cite poor play as the reason, instead of launching into this crusade to manufacture physical limitations to back up your reasoning and then dying on a hill trying to convince everyone that he's got a weaker arm than Chad Pennington.

And oh, by the way - if you have a weak arm, you don't make ANY strong throws. If you have inconsistent velocity, then you have MECHANICAL issues that keep you from repeating a propery delivery. Like footwork. which just about every scouting report mentions.

 

[mattjames2010]

I'm not backing myself into any corner, I'm not the one telling everyone HEY LISTEN TO ME I SCOUT BETTER THAN THE PROFESSIONALS THESE GUYS AREN'T ROCKET SCIENTISTS.

Look I get it, you are very mad and upset that your boy Romo isn't starting for whatever reason but you don't have to go making garbage up about Dak. It's perfectly fine to just cite poor play as the reason, instead of launching into this crusade to manufacture physical limitations to back up your reasoning and then dying on a hill trying to convince everyone that he's got a weaker arm than Chad Pennington.

And oh, by the way - if you have a weak arm, you don't make ANY strong throws. If you have inconsistent velocity, then you have MECHANICAL issues that keep you from repeating a propery delivery. Like footwork. which just about every scouting report mentions.

LOL here it is, the "You just want Romo to start!" - I was excited for Prescott before the season started. Go back and look at the thread I made, where I mentioned the positives I saw of him and the negatives. Try again, less talking out of your ***.

"It's mechanical" - LOL no, it's not. Dak, like most young QBs throws off his back foot at times, that is not the criticism. The criticism is when the footwork AND the mechanics are there and he still throws a duck.

"which just about every scouting report mentions"

LOL

> No one is saying what you're saying

> Almost every

You're running out of room now.

 

[Gator88]

Not every team has a defense like Minnesota and the Giants.

Giants had the 28th? ranked pass defense going into tonight and they were missing their best pass rusher. Not hard to find defenses like that,

 

[DIAF]

LOL here it is, the "You just want Romo to start!" - I was excited for Prescott before the season started. Go back and look at the thread I made, where I mentioned the positives I saw of him and the negatives. Try again, less talking out of your ***.

"It's mechanical" - LOL no, it's not. Dak, like most young QBs throws off his back foot at times, that is not the criticism. The criticism is when the footwork AND the mechanics are there and he still throws a duck.

"which just about every scouting report mentions"

LOL

> No one is saying what you're saying

> Almost every

You're running out of room now.

Like hell I am. You literally said you knew better than the scouts. It was game over for you at that point. Unless you are actually a pro scout, which you aren't.

 

[mattjames2010]

Like hell I am. You literally said you knew better than the scouts. It was game over for you at that point. Unless you are actually a pro scout, which you aren't.

Yeah, I know better than some scouts. As do many on this board. Other scouts hit more than others. But I will state again, stop glorifying the profession.

Either way, it's time for you to start providing some GIFs or video. Because as of now, you're just melting down due to digging yourself into a hole. LOL

 

[CrownCowboy]

I've said from the start that I preferred for Romo to start as soon as he was healthy. It wasn't because I didn't like Dak but because I thought that Romo was just the better player at this point. You have to be impressed with what Dak has done. I mean it's been a wild ride and one that has never been done before.

I have always wondered in the back of my mind when he'd hit his wall, not if. It appears that this could be it. Do I think he can grow and learn and get through some of these walls to be a really good Quarterback in this league for a long time? Absolutely. I just don't have much confidence, especially after the last few weeks, that he'll be able to get us to where we want to go this year.

People have debated this before, but he did indeed come into a pretty good situation with how this offense is built and the talent. Of course, he has won with it this year when veterans couldn't do it last year. I really do think alot of the kid and would love to see him succeed.

With all that being said, I really do think Romo is the better choice. I can't really say for sure if he could stay on the field. His health is a fragile subject, literally and figuratively. But for me, I've always had reservations about a rookie getting us to the Super Bowl.

I think the team will stick with Dak all the way through til the end, despite what Jerry has hinted at regarding Romo. The team has made their bed and are going to lay in it.

If this offense goes out there next week against the Bucs and has no real threat of a vertical passing game and stalls, then I think things will get more interesting here at the zone.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Has Romo ever only put up 7 pts? Just curious.

 

[mattjames2010]

That game was awful. This was the game I thought Romo was always going to be a gunslinger, then he came back in 09 and just completely changed his play around.

A lot of growth from 08 to 09 for him.

 

[Melonfeud]

Overreaction thread but the rook looked like a rook

The gnats brought the pressure and the few times Dak figured to put his legs to use, the pocket was collapsing all around him, granted 3/4 of that wall was the backsides of his offensive line, ya,it was not his day he couldn't shift gears to handle that high speed/low drag kinda game today, his passes were mostly low or to slow and off the mark, maybe he has been reading what others are saying and writing and drank the kool-aid,you know he's bound to have been feeling more than a little overwhelmed @1:05 left to play and passing out of his own endzone,,,I'm happy he hung on to the ball and took the sacks that he did take,him forcing the ball down range and 'off' the mark doubled his interception numbers on the year(so far) he almost chucked a 3rd I think on his 2nd to last possession?

Now, I don't know if ROMO had he played instead of Dak could have won this game tonight. ( the cockey gunslinger of old would've burnt their house DOWN and the funny part about it is the fricking N.Y.gnats KNOW he CAN and WOULD'VE)

I saw Dak's passing game needs some improvement and leave it at that cuz he's my/our quarterback of the future and we all full well know it.

 

[darthseinfeld]

That game was awful. This was the game I thought Romo was always going to be a gunslinger, then he came back in 09 and just completely changed his play around.

A lot of growth from 08 to 09 for him.

That team was soooooo soft. Much more overall talent then the 2007 team, but took the field like teams would just bow to them. 44-6 may have been the best thing to happen to them

 

[mattjames2010]

That team was soooooo soft. Much more overall talent then the 2007 team, but took the field like teams would just bow to them. 44-6 may have been the best thing to happen to them

That's okay though, Eagles lost in the championship and we knocked the Eagles around 3 times the next season and pretty much ended McNabb's career and legacy in Philly.

 

[SoBlue128]

I agree this is an over reaction thread but what is concerning to me is the last three games the offense has regressed a little bit each game. That pattern scares me. I'm not going to say it's all on Dak because Dak is not the only one who plays offense. Dak can only throw the ball and hand off. The first pick Dez fell down, the second pick it kind of looked like Dez didn't think the ball was coming to him, but it was a bad throw anyway. Then obviously Dez's fumble killed us. And this is the 2nd time this years that Spags outcoached Linehan.

You can't blame Dak for the whole offense sucking, but if the whole offense sucks again next week then maybe we go to Romo for a spark.

I just don't want to ruin this 11-2 record trying to preserve any QB's ego or confidence. We might not be 11-2 for another 25 years, let's not spoil it.

Dak has been amazing but he looked like a rookie tonight plain and simple.

 

[DIAF]

Yeah, I know better than some scouts. As do many on this board. Other scouts hit more than others. But I will state again, stop glorifying the profession.

Either way, it's time for you to start providing some GIFs or video. Because as of now, you're just melting down due to digging yourself into a hole. LOL

Oh, there's no meltdown here. I'm not the one making outrageous claims like being better than NFL personnel.


More scouting reports that you say don't exist, and these are typical of what is available on other major sites. Arm good enough, terrible footwork and inconsistent mechanics. Nothing in there about a noodle arm, except from you.

I'm sure you'll handwave these away as well, though. That seems to be your M.O.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...eport-work-in-progress-compares-to-tim-tebow/

STRENGTHS: Scouts are most impressed with his development above the neck, showing above average awareness as a passer, recognizing things quickly and working through his progressions to easily load and fire.
Displays an ability to use his eyes and hold defenders and has a quick memory to move on from mistakes and not let the negative plays linger. Overall, he has a much more natural feel in the passing game than in 2013 and appears in complete control of that offense.

WEAKNESSES: Work in progress as a passer but has a live arm and good field vision. His footwork is inconsistent and he loses accuracy when his feet are not set.
Tends to predetermine some throws and relies on a lot of back shoulder patterns, something that got him in trouble against Auburn and Alabama. Has not shown the consistency to lead his team through the air in tough road environments when the ground game is shut down.



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2672393-why-everyone-missed-on-dak-prescott

MYTH NO. 2: His throwing ability is below NFL standards

"His arm strength is good enough, but he doesn't spin it like the real good ones. He's late with the ball. His accuracy bothers me." — NFC national scout before the draft

Before he coached Prescott, Mullen coached Tim Tebow. Prescott loved Tebow. Mullen gave him Tebow's phone number, and Prescott put it on speed dial. He chose No. 15 as his jersey number in college just like Tebow.

His connection to Tebow didn't help him in NFL draft rooms, though.

"He's Tim Tebow with more passing skills," an NFL front office man said in the spring. He did not mean it as a compliment.

At the combine, Prescott threw the ball pretty well. According to one scout's notes, he completed 10 of 12 passes to his left and six of nine to his right. "He had some ball-placement issues on out routes," his notebook reads.




http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ranking-the-top-quarterbacks-for-2015/page/15
By Matt Miller , NFL Draft Lead Writer Apr 5, 2016

Mechanically, Prescott's motion is clean with a small wasted motion as he brings the ball up to throw. That windup isn't hurting his accuracy or release speed, though, and won't have to be tweaked. His footwork can be smooth and quick, and when there isn't trash around his feet in the pocket, he'll step up to drive the ball down the field.

In talking to coaches and NFL scouts, they've all raved about Prescott's leadership qualities and football intelligence. The belief is he'll take to NFL-level coaching faster than expected, and one person even compared him to Russell Wilson.

NEGATIVES
Prescott is a project. His footwork needs to be adjusted and then drilled over and over again to erase years of bad technique. A good quarterback coach will focus on not just taking drops from center but also on finding a consistent launch point on every three-, five- and seven-step drop so those steps are always at the same depth and same speed.



https://n.rivals.com/news/looking-back-at-the-nfl-s-surprising-class-of-rookie-qbs
Rivals.com HS scouting

Farrell’s take: It was hard to see this one coming as Prescott wasn’t a major target of many programs and didn’t even get the time of day from in-state power LSU until the very end. What we saw was a big dual-threat quarterback who wasn’t overly fast but made good decisions on the field and had a good arm, but nothing like the Heisman candidate he emerged at for a short period of time at Mississippi State. Prescott has proven us wrong with our mid-level ranking and has improved in almost every facet of the game since high school.

 

[darthseinfeld]

That's okay though, Eagles lost in the championship and we knocked the Eagles around 3 times the next season and pretty much ended McNabb's career and legacy in Philly.

2009 WC.....McNabbs last game as an Eagle

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

The gnats brought the pressure and the few times Dak figured to put his legs to use, the pocket was collapsing all around him, granted 3/4 of that wall was the backsides of his offensive line, ya,it was not his day he couldn't shift gears to handle that high speed/low drag kinda game today, his passes were mostly low or to slow and off the mark, maybe he has been reading what others are saying and writing and drank the kool-aid,you know he's bound to have been feeling more than a little overwhelmed @1:05 left to play and passing out of his own endzone,,,I'm happy he hung on to the ball and took the sacks that he did take,him forcing the ball down range and 'off' the mark doubled his interception numbers on the year(so far) he almost chucked a 3rd I think on his 2nd to last possession?

Now, I don't know if ROMO had he played instead of Dak could have won this game tonight. ( the cockey gunslinger of old would've burnt their house DOWN and the funny part about it is the fricking N.Y.gnats KNOW he CAN and WOULD'VE)

I saw Dak's passing game needs some improvement and leave it at that cuz he's my/our quarterback of the future and we all full well know it.

Speak for yourself. I'm not convinced Prescott is the future. I haven't seen enough.