Romo trade compensation (per Schefter)

DandyDon52

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The Cowboys need to act as if they plan to keep Romo for 2017. That will improve his trade value.

In reality, keeping Romo at 14M would be silly. They could put that towards a free agent DE or WR..
not any more silly than keeping dez at 14 m !
I would rather keep tony than dez.
 
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You gotta have two quarterbacks in this league today. It seems like every week a couple of QB's are on concussion protocal.

If you have a servicable backup then you might me capable of playing close to the same level as a team if the other squads elevate the quality of play in order to compensate but very few teams in history were able to do that. That is why the circumstances this season surrounding Dak Prescott and Cowboys is so special.

But what if you have a really good backup? I mean a really really good one. Then the offense can attack as effectively as they always do, there is no dropoff, the team continues to be multi-dimensional.

When you look at the total combined salaries of Romo and Prescott you can see that the team is paying out what it expected, only the value of each contract is reversed in terms of starter and backup. So what? Having Romo on the bench with his contract is not a waste in terms of security, experience, mentoring and especially competition. Love what Dak is doing but this is a Janet Jackson league, meaning "What have you done for us lately"? With Romo around I doubt any starting QB would be comfortable enough to stop striving for improvement

Here is another thought:

Suppose the Cowboys were to devise a set of plays to be used by Tony on one drive per game. Why not? The argument against has always assumed a dropoff in talent which would not be the case here. The "Romo" drive could be at any point ion the game, it could open the 2nd half, it could be the two minute drill to end the first half, it could even be the opening drive.

Imagine having to gameplan against that, not knowing when the rhythm, style, and individual attributes of the QB is going to suddenly change. The offense would suddenly change into something they had not anticipated or could prepare for. It would throw defenses off balance. This strategy is used for RB's why not QB's too?

like I said, I'm a greedy bastid, I want to keep both.
 

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Always makes me wonder how someone like Tom Brady is 39 and plans on playing until he is 45 and we want to throw Romo to the curb when he is 36. Think Drew Bree's is 36 also. Guess the needs to be shown the door as well. Bottom line is if Romo can start figuring how to give up on a play quickly instead of trying to act like he's 26 again, he has the brains, arm and vision to be a top flight QB. I'd like us to hang on to him if we possibly can.

They are not comparable at all. The issue is age PLUS injury history.

Drew Brees had his last major injury in 2005.
Brady's last major injury was 2008.

Romo's last major injury was 2016. Before that he had major injuries in 2015, again in 2015, and 2013 as well as two transverse process fractures in 2014 as the sprinkles on top.

How many QBs came back from that kind of late-career injury history at 36+? Name ONE and I might take this line of thinking seriously.
 

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They are not comparable at all. The issue is age PLUS injury history.

Drew Brees had his last major injury in 2005.
Brady's last major injury was 2008.

Romo's last major injury was 2016. Before that he had major injuries in 2015, again in 2015, and 2013 as well as two transverse process fractures in 2014 as the sprinkles on top.

How many QBs came back from that kind of late-career injury history at 36+? Name ONE and I might take this line of thinking seriously.

Peyton Manning.
 

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Peyton Manning.

Try again. That's 1 major injury, not multiple major injuries in a row.

Peyton Manning: Neck
Romo: Broken back, broken collar bone, broken collar bone, 2x transverse process fractures, ruptured disk. That's just 2013-2016.

These are... not the same kind of injury history AT ALL.
 

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Try again. That's 1 major injury, not multiple major injuries in a row.

Peyton Manning: Neck
Romo: Broken back, broken collar bone, broken collar bone, 2x transverse process fractures, ruptured disk. That's just 2013-2016.

These are... not the same kind of injury history AT ALL.

Goalpost here, Goalpost there goal posts moving everywhere! That's not what you asked, but whatever.

Here's another one for you.

Joe Montana. Missed two seasons back to back, and came back at 37.
 

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Goalpost here, Goalpost there goal posts moving everywhere! That's not what you asked, but whatever.

Here's another one for you.

Joe Montana. Missed two seasons back to back, and came back at 37.

So not thinking 1=4 is moving the goalposts now? Nice rhetorical dodge.

The Joe Montana example is a really good one, though. I forgot he missed 2 straight seasons with that elbow injury. Getting over an elbow injury that bad in that era was genuinely miraculous.
 

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Goalpost here, Goalpost there goal posts moving everywhere! That's not what you asked, but whatever.

Here's another one for you.

Joe Montana. Missed two seasons back to back, and came back at 37.

Joe Montana had a HOF resume like no other QB and got to play one game in week 17 of the 92 season and looked like the Joe Montana of old which lured the Chiefs into trading a #1 pick for him. He got to show he was over that injury and still had it. Romo doesn't have near the resume of a Joe Montana and hasn't been able to make it through two games the last three times he's seen the field. He's had an assortment of injuries since 2013 including three different back injuries. He's played 2 full games since the 2014 season and didn't look very good in either of them especially the Carolina game which was one of his worst ever performances. Teams aren't like FANS, they're not looking at the 2014 season thinking that's the Romo they'll get.

If Romo doesn't see the field this season allowing him to show he still has it and that he can take a hit and get from it, no one is going to fork over a high draft pick for him. He's nowhere near the QB Joe Montana was and his injury concerns and his 2-4 playoff record isn't going to have teams bidding for him with high draft picks. One of the most laughable posts I've read in a long time was several weeks ago with someone claiming we could get a #1, #3 and a #1 in 2018 for Romo. :facepalm: You have Romo FANS on this board who are bigger FANS of him than they are of the Cowboys.
 

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The Joe Montana example is a really good one, though. I forgot he missed 2 straight seasons with that elbow injury. Getting over an elbow injury that bad in that era was genuinely miraculous.

Montana got the opportunity to show he was over that injury and could still play at a high level which got KC interested. It was his championship resume and the fact he proved he could still play at a high level that got that trade to come together. If we were able to play Romo in the season finale and he looks good and shows he can take a hit, then there's a possibility of someone offering a #2 pick for him but a #1 is out of the question. He's got to be able to show teams that he can still play at a high level and take some shots to get a decent draft pick for him.
 

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Denver has a team built. They know they have a championship roster. They just need a QB. It's why they made the trade to move up for Lynch. He's not ready to play. He's playing behind a 7th round QB. Now we are starting a 4th round QB but he didn't lose his starting job to the UDFA in pre season. But It doesn't matter if they spent a 1st and 3rd on A QB. All It shows is that they are willing to put the required resources into the position. Also they had no idea a Pro Bowl level QB would all of a sudden become available. I'm not saying we are guaranteed a 1st round pick but a 2nd round pick is not out of the question and a 1st is not impossible. Especially if they want to keep him from free agency. Broncos are not the only team with a great roster built in need of a QB.
A 2nd round pick would be great. We do end up winning two ways. We get the pick and clear a ton of cap space. Be great if romo reworked his deal to take less and stay in Dallas but he's wants to start. Can't blame him.
 
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