Romo vs White

[4lifecowboy]

Romo never even sniffed Super Bowl and did play on so pretty dang good teams. White's better, not even close.

Name those good teams. I challenge you to name 3 potential players that Romo played with on the offensive side of the ball that is ring of honor worthy.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Sorry.

Roger was more talented.

How?


Roger would have 0 rings with Garrett as his head coach.

Romo was more elusive, accurate, and had a faster release...

 

[mrmojo]

The legend of Tony Romo grows.

 

[Vinnie2u]

White = Tom Landry
Romo = Parcells/Wade/Garrett

Yeah, that's a fair comparison...

Do you think Tom Landry would give a Gunslinger like Romo a chance to be his QB. I'm asking because I don't know.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You can't fairly compare actual stats between QB's of different eras. Schematics have changed. The rules have changed and so has the actual football (much easier to throw more accurately and to throw it longer and with more velocity).

I compiled the stats looking at QB's prime and adjusted it based on how they compared to their league average of their era into Romo's era (2006 to 2014).

Meredith - Most underrated of the bunch. Had a high TD %, low INT %, pretty good YPA and higher QB rating. Problem for him was no championships and his career didn't last as long as a lot of HoF'ers.

Staubach - There are other QB's from around the history of the league that I have to get to, but so far he has the highest Adjusted QB rating of *any* QB. Even higher than Brady and Montana. They can call Brady (or Montana or Peyton) the GOAT, but I believe that now we have a serious case for Staubach.

White - Much much better than people expected. Like Romo, high TD % but also high INT % (relatively speaking). He's actually quite comparable to....Brett Favre.

Aikman - I took all of Aikman's career except for his last season. When I took out his first 2 seasons and his last season, his Adjusted QB rating moved up to 93.0. This is why I can now see the importance of winning in the postseason for QB's. Aikman was hurt by his low TD % because when we got near the goal line we almost always punched it in with Emmitt. I was surprised how low his YPA was.

Romo - Is he a HoF'er?

Like everything with Romo..it's debatable and will be debated. His numbers are quite comparable to Terry Bradshaw and Dan Fouts, both in the HoF. And they are better than Aikman's (and much better than Namath's). However, guys like Ken Anderson had much better adjusted stats and took their team to the Super Bowl and can't make the HoF.

I can see both sides of the argument.

My rankings go like this:

1. Roger Staubach
2. Don Meredith
3. Troy Aikman
4. Tony Romo
5. Danny White




YR

 

[noshame]

The way they played defense back in Danny Whites era
Romo would have never made the team he would have been cut after two or three years
There was no dink-and-dunk like Jason Garrett's offense and Defenders mugged receiver all the way till the ball was in the air

You had to be able to throw sideline routes which Romo never could

 

[MichaelWinicki]

How?


Roger would have 0 rings with Garrett as his head coach.

Romo was more elusive, accurate, and had a faster release...

Roger was a much better athlete. He was faster and a better deep ball.

Roger was the highest rated passer of his era.

Tony Romo was a wonderful QB, but not at the same level of Roger.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't fairly compare actual stats between QB's of different eras. Schematics have changed. The rules have changed and so has the actual football (much easier to throw more accurately and to throw it longer and with more velocity).

I compiled the stats looking at QB's prime and adjusted it based on how they compared to their league average of their era into Romo's era (2006 to 2014).

Meredith - Most underrated of the bunch. Had a high TD %, low INT %, pretty good YPA and higher QB rating. Problem for him was no championships and his career didn't last as long as a lot of HoF'ers.

Staubach - There are other QB's from around the history of the league that I have to get to, but so far he has the highest Adjusted QB rating of *any* QB. Even higher than Brady and Montana. They can call Brady (or Montana or Peyton) the GOAT, but I believe that now we have a serious case for Staubach.

White - Much much better than people expected. Like Romo, high TD % but also high INT % (relatively speaking). He's actually quite comparable to....Brett Favre.

Aikman - I took all of Aikman's career except for his last season. When I took out his first 2 seasons and his last season, his Adjusted QB rating moved up to 93.0. This is why I can now see the importance of winning in the postseason for QB's. Aikman was hurt by his low TD % because when we got near the goal line we almost always punched it in with Emmitt. I was surprised how low his YPA was.

Romo - Is he a HoF'er?

Like everything with Romo..it's debatable and will be debated. His numbers are quite comparable to Terry Bradshaw and Dan Fouts, both in the HoF. And they are better than Aikman's (and much better than Namath's). However, guys like Ken Anderson had much better adjusted stats and took their team to the Super Bowl and can't make the HoF.

I can see both sides of the argument.

My rankings go like this:

1. Roger Staubach
2. Don Meredith
3. Troy Aikman
4. Tony Romo
5. Danny White




YR

Excellent analysis.

Romo was a very good QB, but he won't make the HOF.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Romo never even sniffed Super Bowl and did play on so pretty dang good teams. White's better, not even close.

you have got to be trolling

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I never watched White play. I did watch Aikman play, however.

Romo > Aikman

 

[CATCH17]

Did Romo ever play on a team with a legit defense?


He always had a great WR and Witten but that's it.

Poor OLines all throughout his career, a 2 man defense, and a guy calling plays and coaching the team that had no business being in the position he was in with this team.

 

[NEODOG]

Can I vote neither?

QB position is defined by....
All the talk about Romo's records & such....
White going to 3 NFC Championships....

I vote Craig Morton.....

 

[irishline]

Do you think Tom Landry would give a Gunslinger like Romo a chance to be his QB. I'm asking because I don't know.

Romo has a better interception percentage (ints/passes) than any QB who ever played for Landry, so he if is labelled a gunslinger for throwing interceptions what label should we give all Landry's QBs?

Tony Romo 2.7%
Roger Staubach 3.7%
Danny White 4.5%
Don Meredith 4.8%
Craig Morton 5.6%

For the record I am not stating that Romo is better than any of those (nor necessarily worse depending on whom we are comparing). But this whole interception "gunslinger" thing with Romo is so overblown its not funny. Did he throw some interceptions at key and/or bad times? Sure. Was he the interception gunslinger some want to make him out to be? Not really. He actually has less turnovers per pass play than any other QB (not named Dak) in Cowboy history (yes that includes Aikman - 3.0%).

 

[Alexander]

Danny White. Very under appreciated QB.

Didn't always play on good teams. From mid '80s on the team was in decline. And judging by number of QB changes/injuries, including many mid game, he played behind some bad olines.

People that weren't even alive during White's tenure aren't even qualified to have an opinion honestly.

The first tendency is to blast White and chuckle, saying he was given a better supporting cast. He wasn't given much of anything. What he inherited was the likes of Tony Dorsett, Drew Pearson and Tony Hill early on and that faded soon.

Defensively, he had the first three-four years with Randy White, Ed Jones and Everson Walls etc. but year after year, the cast got worse and worse.

From the 1979 draft on, just take a look at this talent Schramm and Brandt surrounded him with:

1979 - Doug Cosbie and Ron Springs out of 15 picks
1980 - 11 picks of nothing. Best you can say is Timmy Newsome
1981 - 14 picks of nothing again. Best is a nickelback in Ron Fellows
1982 - 16 picks. Literally nothing. When Phil Pozderac is the best you can do, you bombed the draft.
1983 - 12 picks. Jim Jeffcoat. That's it.
1984 - 15 picks. Eugene Lockhart. And zip.
1985 - 15 picks. Throw away flier pick on Herschel Walker was only saving grace.
1986 - 14 picks and only Mike Sherrard had a brief flash of decency.

That is eight straight years of pathetic to average at best drafts. And people think Romo had it bad? There would have been a revolt if the drafting was this horrific for eight years.

 

[rags747]

In a throwing era, White by a mile. A guy who went to 3 straight NFC championship games is a winner, IMO. If all the QBs back then, including Aikman were allowed to fling the ball around like Romo, they would have set unbreakable records.

White had much better teams too

 

[Cowboys_22]

I would say definitely Romo. White was dealt a much better hand.

Hit the nail on the head

 

[haleyrules]

lol. Danny played when the defenses meant business and played to knock the QB's out of games. White took his clubs to 3 straight Conference Championship games with an aging defense and a HC that had lost a couple steps. White was a pocket passer that could read a defense and make a decision. Tony would have been run out of the NFL in a couple of seasons if he had to face those old defenses. Romo is not in the same class as Danny White.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

People that weren't even alive during White's tenure aren't even qualified to have an opinion honestly.

The first tendency is to blast White and chuckle, saying he was given a better supporting cast. He wasn't given much of anything. What he inherited was the likes of Tony Dorsett, Drew Pearson and Tony Hill early on and that faded soon.

Defensively, he had the first three-four years with Randy White, Ed Jones and Everson Walls etc. but year after year, the cast got worse and worse.

From the 1979 draft on, just take a look at this talent Schramm and Brandt surrounded him with:

1979 - Doug Cosbie and Ron Springs out of 15 picks
1980 - 11 picks of nothing. Best you can say is Timmy Newsome
1981 - 14 picks of nothing again. Best is a nickelback in Ron Fellows
1982 - 16 picks. Literally nothing. When Phil Pozderac is the best you can do, you bombed the draft.
1983 - 12 picks. Jim Jeffcoat. That's it.
1984 - 15 picks. Eugene Lockhart. And zip.
1985 - 15 picks. Throw away flier pick on Herschel Walker was only saving grace.
1986 - 14 picks and only Mike Sherrard had a brief flash of decency.

That is eight straight years of pathetic to average at best drafts. And people think Romo had it bad? There would have been a revolt if the drafting was this horrific for eight years.

Correct. To think Danny White had some terrific team around him every season is nuts...

 

[Alexander]

lol. Danny played when the defenses meant business and played to knock the QB's out of games. White took his clubs to 3 straight Conference Championship games with an aging defense and a HC that had lost a couple steps. White was a pocket passer that could read a defense and make a decision. Tony would have been run out of the NFL in a couple of seasons if he had to face those old defenses. Romo is not in the same class as Danny White.

To me, they are both more similar than people want to admit.

I can't state without a doubt one was better than the other.

The main common denominator was that both were given talent deficiencies and endured a series of tragic moments that stick out and make the glorious ones seem less enjoyable.

 

[Alexander]

Correct. To think Danny White had some terrific team around him every season is nuts...

He inherited the remnants of Doomsday. Lasted about three years. Then it was smoke and mirrors with Thurman's Thieves. Then it really fell off a cliff. He had some bad bad offensive lines too.