Romo, Weeden, Cassel - Their Last 3+ Games

[65fastback2plus2]

heres what I gather....Cassel is 50% better than weeden, esp when looking at 3rd down stats.

Literally all we needed in the saints or falcons game was 1-2 more first downs.

Cassel stands a chance to be able to do that for us.

 

[SultanOfSix]

@percyhoward's threads are great in support of the greatness of Romo, but I don't think anyone really needs stats to backup just how ineffective a QB Brandon Weeden is. One simply needs to watch him play. Just like most people can look at a catch and realize it is one (except apparently Dean Blandino), most people can watch Weeden play and realize he's hardly even a capable backup. I don't want to see that guy on the field again.

 

[xwalker]

I don't want you take this any wrong way, I'm just genuinely curious, but do you have something against Cassel? Is it personal?

People with Jerry Avatars are Jerry haters. He is trying to point out that Jerry and the Cowboys management screwed up the QB situation.

 

[DandyDon52]

Bottom line is weeden as a bkup is supposed to win some games ?
He is 0-4 as a cowboy.
Orton was 0-1
Cassel is 0-0 so lets see if he can get a win.

 

[percyhoward]

My eyeballs tell me Cassel is better than Weeden.

It depends on which aspect of their performance you're looking at, and what your main focus is offensively. If it's about depending on the QB to keep drives alive with 3rd-down conversions, Cassel would seem to give you a better shot at doing that. If you have a good defense to go with an effective running game, Weeden would appear to have the edge, because his style of play involves less risk and less reward.

Both of them have spent a lot of time playing from behind, and although that's partly due to their own (mostly poor) play, being behind does hurt their numbers. From the "larger sample" of games, here's how they've played when their team had a lead:

Cassel 62 of 98 785 yd 8.0 ypa 5 td 3 int 92.4
Weeden 66 of 94 654 yd 7.0 ypa 2 td 2 int 87.8

Cassel has been slightly better with the lead. Really if you're able to play it safe, grind it out, and wait for the other team to make a mistake, either QB would do. But that hasn't been happening, and we need to be more aggressive offensively. So it's a little more than simply change for change's sake. Cassel takes more chances, and yet is veteran enough that he can still be trusted with the lead if his risks pay off, or if he does get support from his defense and running game.

If we're trying to come from behind, there's no Romo to bail us out.

Net passing in 2nd half, trailing by two scores or less
from larger sample of games
(includes all drop backs, counting sacks and sack yardage in rating)
Romo 50 of 62 736 yd 11.9 ypa 10 td 1 int 2 sk 149.0
Cassel 58 of 119 620 yd 5.2 ypa 4 td 3 int 7 sk 65.1
Weeden 68 of 145 821 yd 5.7 ypa 5 td 3 int 16 sk 67.6

Bottom line is that we still need the rest of the team to do more for the backup QB. That's if past performance is any indication, of course.

 

[xwalker]

Last 3+ games
Romo 2013 Dal vs. Det (31 att), Dal at GB (19 att), Dal vs NYG (45 att), Dal at Phi (27 att)
Weeden 2014 Dal at Phi (7 att), Dal vs Atl (26 att), Dal at NO (26 att), Dal vs NE (39 att)
Cassel 2013 Min vs Det (33 att), 2014 Min at StL (25 att), Min vs NE (36 att), Min at NO (10 att)

All Attempts
Romo 88 of 122 1036 yd 8.5 ypa 7 td 2 int 109.9
Weeden 71 of 98 739 yd 7.5 ypa 2 td 2 int 92.2
Cassel 61 of 104 614 yd 5.9 ypa 4 td 4 int 72.4

Pass Rating in Red Zone
Romo 112.3
Weeden 67.4
Cassel 56.1

Average Rank of Defenses Faced (DPR)
Romo 10th
Weeden 14th
Cassel 19th

QB Performance Above Defenses' Average Rating
Romo +23.5
Weeden +1.3
Cassel -16.0

3rd DOWN
Average Distance To Go on 3rd Down
Romo 7.7
Weeden 7.4
Cassel 8.6

Team 3rd-Down Conversion Percentage
Romo 45.0% 18 of 40
Weeden 29.8% 11 of 37
Cassel 32.4% 12 of 37

Percentage of 3rd-Down Completions Resulting in a First Down
Romo 68.2% 15 of 22
Weeden 42.1% 8 of 19
Cassel 58.8% 10 of 17

Career Stats:

Romo
TD 245
INT 112
TD/INT Ratio 2.2
Completion Percentage 65.3
Rating 97.6

Weeden
TD 28
INT 30
TD/INT Ratio 0.9
Completion Percentage 57.7
Rating 74.6

Cassel
TD 96
INT 70
TD/INT Ratio 1.4
Completion Percentage 59.0
Rating 80.1


Int % (Ints per attempt):
Romo 2.6%
Weed 3.25%
Cassell 2.95%

In terms of completions (Ints per completion):
Romo 4%
Weed 5.6%
Cassell 5.0%

Completion Percentage (Completions per Attempt):
Romo 65.3% (Average 8.2 yards/attempt)
Weed 57.7% (Average 6.67 yards/attempt)
Cassell 59% (Average 6.6 yards/attempt)

NFL Accolades:

Romo
4× Pro Bowl (2006, 2007, 2009, 2014)
Second-team All Pro (2014)
NFC passing yards leader (2009)
NFC Passing Touchdowns Leader (2007)
NFL passer rating leader (2014)
2× NFC passer rating leader (2007, 2014)
3× FedEx Air Player of the Week
(Week 1, 2007, Week 13, 2007, Week 5, 2013)
2x NFC Offensive Player of the Month
FOX Galloping Gobbler award winner (2006)
3× CBS All-Iron Award winner (2007, 2009, 2013)
Ed Block Courage Award (2011)
NFL record Highest QB Rating in month of December (133.7)
NFL record Highest QB Rating in 4th quarter
NFL record most passing attempts through 100 starts
NFL record most consecutive road games with a touchdown pass (41)
NFL record most games with 135+ passer rating in a season (6

Cassel
2010 1 playoff game
15 starts, 10 wins, Probowl

2008 11-5 (Played 3/4 of game 1 then 15 starts)
Despite 11 wins, NE didn't make the playoffs.

Pro Bowl (2010)
AFC Champion (2007)
2× AFC Offensive Player of the Week (2008)
AFC Offensive Player of the Month (November 2010)
FedEx Air Player of the Week (Week 15–2013)
Back to back 400-yard games (2008)
USA Today All-Joe team (2008)

Weeden
None

 

[noshame]

Is there some reason we can't use Romo's stats from the last three games he appeared in? Which would be relivent.

 

[percyhoward]

Percy, you have to let go of this love affair you have with Brandon Weeden.

Who can explain the mysteries of the heart? Maybe it's the way he jogs off the field after a 3rd-down completion.

 

[reddyuta]

can he be worse than Weeden? the answer could well be a BIG YES but i am not worried about it because i think that means our season is toast,you cant win with your 2 best players out most of the time.this is a failure of the FO who thought Weeden can be a capable backup.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Pocket Presence:

Romo - Great
Weeden - Terrible
Cassel - Good

 

[Vintage]

you should learn to read and interpret statistics. I'll give you a hint here:

Percentage of 3rd-Down Completions Resulting in a First Down
Romo 68.2% 15 of 22
Weeden 42.1% 8 of 19
Cassel 58.8% 10 of 17

You should really heed your own advice.

Here. Allow me to provide you with a hint. Go back and read the original post again. Slowly. Might take you until morning.

I can't provide help with the statistics. Frankly, I dint have the patience to teach you. Nor do I have infinite time.

Hope that helps!

 

[65fastback2plus2]

You should really heed your own advice.

Here. Allow me to provide you with a hint. Go back and read the original post again. Slowly. Might take you until morning.

I can't provide help with the statistics. Frankly, I dint have the patience to teach you. Nor do I have infinite time.

Hope that helps!

lol...hey, if you cant provide an answer, always best to deflect.

 

[Chuck 54]

Bottom line, all three QBs will look much better than Weeden did IF Dez is back. Without Dez, they will have trouble moving the ball.

 

[George]

Cassel has a great OL to play behind. Did not have the OL we have. Incorporate that.

 

[lostar2009]

One scrub for another scrub. This might get real ugly. I'm not even sure Cassel know enough of the offense to be effective.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Romo - Awesome
Weeden - Sucks
Cassel - Sucks less*

*Pending result of NYG game.

 

[George]

To paraphrase a Frank Sinatra song regarding Weeden: "your riding high in September, shot down in October"

 

[Future]

Yet Cassel was 2-2.

How's Weeden's record?

This is basically the same argument as Eli being better than Romo b/c of SB wins.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is basically the same argument as Eli being better than Romo b/c of SB wins.

He's clearly the superior post-season player

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Thread sucks. OP is a ******.

I hate it when irrefutable empirical evidence gets in the way of my optimism.