Romo, Weeden, Cassel - Their Last 3+ Games

[Awakened]

Target Distance 10+ Yards
Last 3+ Games
Romo 16 of 30 323 yd 10.8 ypa 4 td 0 int 131.0
Weeden 12 of 28 297 yd 10.6 ypa 2 td 2 int 76.0
Cassel 6 of 23 84 yd 3.7 ypa 2 td 3 int 31.7

Larger Sample
Romo (last 20 games) 112 of 204 2427 yd 11.9 ypa 27 td 7 int 122.7
Weeden (last 17 games) 63 of 136 1341 yd 9.9 ypa 10 td 7 int 84.8
Cassel (last 21 games) 93 of 203 1831 yd 9.0 ypa 12 td 14 int 68.8

This is terrifying. I was feeling pretty good about the move. What a buzz kill!
I'm willing to bet Garrett and Linehan haven't seen this or paid any attention to it.

 

[dfense]

I think the last 3 show why Cassel is much more valuable than Weeden and how his other numbers are misleading.

Right. Forest through the trees.

 

[Wrangler87]

This entire thread is apples to oranges. There are far too many variables to consider this a relevant comparison, especially if you are using Weeden's last three games. Stats were not his problem and were certainly misleading, as we can all agree.

Another thing to consider is that on the 2014 Vikings, Cassel had a great game against St. Louis, as listed above, with Adrian Peterson. The following week, right before the New England game, AP was deemed inactive. At that point Cassel became the best player on their offense and forced himself into four interceptions. The next week, against NO, he only threw a few passes before breaking his foot and not playing again in 2014.

 

[percyhoward]

This entire thread is apples to oranges. There are far too many variables to consider this a relevant comparison, especially if you are using Weeden's last three games. Stats were not his problem and were certainly misleading, as we can all agree.

Another thing to consider is that on the 2014 Vikings, Cassel had a great game against St. Louis, as listed above, with Adrian Peterson. The following week, right before the New England game, AP was deemed inactive. At that point Cassel became the best player on their offense and forced himself into four interceptions. The next week, against NO, he only threw a few passes before breaking his foot and not playing again in 2014.

See post #16 for a sample of Cassel's last 21 games.

 

[xwalker]

This is terrifying. I was feeling pretty good about the move. What a buzz kill!
I'm willing to bet Garrett and Linehan haven't seen this or paid any attention to it.

Career Stats:Romo
TD 245
INT 112
TD/INT Ratio 2.2
Completion Percentage 65.3
Rating 97.6

Weeden
TD 28
INT 30
TD/INT Ratio 0.9
Completion Percentage 57.7
Rating 74.6

Cassel
TD 96
INT 70
TD/INT Ratio 1.4
Completion Percentage 59.0
Rating 80.1


Int % (Ints per attempt):
Romo 2.6%
Weed 3.25%
Cassell 2.95%

In terms of completions (Ints per completion):
Romo 4%
Weed 5.6%
Cassell 5.0%

Completion Percentage (Completions per Attempt):
Romo 65.3% (Average 8.2 yards/attempt)
Weed 57.7% (Average 6.67 yards/attempt)
Cassell 59% (Average 6.6 yards/attempt)

NFL Accolades:

Romo
4× Pro Bowl (2006, 2007, 2009, 2014)
Second-team All Pro (2014)
NFC passing yards leader (2009)
NFC Passing Touchdowns Leader (2007)
NFL passer rating leader (2014)
2× NFC passer rating leader (2007, 2014)
3× FedEx Air Player of the Week
(Week 1, 2007, Week 13, 2007, Week 5, 2013)
2x NFC Offensive Player of the Month
FOX Galloping Gobbler award winner (2006)
3× CBS All-Iron Award winner (2007, 2009, 2013)
Ed Block Courage Award (2011)
NFL record Highest QB Rating in month of December (133.7)
NFL record Highest QB Rating in 4th quarter
NFL record most passing attempts through 100 starts
NFL record most consecutive road games with a touchdown pass (41)
NFL record most games with 135+ passer rating in a season (6

Cassel
2010 1 playoff game
15 starts, 10 wins, Probowl

2008 11-5 (Played 3/4 of game 1 then 15 starts)
Despite 11 wins, NE didn't make the playoffs.

Pro Bowl (2010)
AFC Champion (2007)
2× AFC Offensive Player of the Week (2008)
AFC Offensive Player of the Month (November 2010)
FedEx Air Player of the Week (Week 15–2013)
Back to back 400-yard games (2008)
USA Today All-Joe team (2008)

Weeden
None

 

[Wrangler87]

See post #16 for a sample of Cassel's last 21 games.

Why bother? Why pick a segment of 21 games? If you're going to do that, just use career stats. And if you're basing everything on pure stats, if anything is obvious over the last three weeks, statistics (see Brandon Weeden) certainly don't tell the story.

 

[HellCrowe]

Last 3+ games
Romo 2013 Dal vs. Det (31 att), Dal at GB (19 att), Dal vs NYG (45 att), Dal at Phi (27 att)
Weeden 2014 Dal at Phi (7 att), Dal vs Atl (26 att), Dal at NO (26 att), Dal vs NE (39 att)
Cassel 2013 Min vs Det (33 att), 2014 Min at StL (25 att), Min vs NE (36 att), Min at NO (10 att)

All Attempts
Romo 88 of 122 1036 yd 8.5 ypa 7 td 2 int 109.9
Weeden 71 of 98 739 yd 7.5 ypa 2 td 2 int 92.2
Cassel 61 of 104 614 yd 5.9 ypa 4 td 4 int 72.4

Pass Rating in Red Zone
Romo 112.3
Weeden 67.4
Cassel 56.1

Average Rank of Defenses Faced (DPR)
Romo 10th
Weeden 14th
Cassel 19th

QB Performance Above Defenses' Average Rating
Romo +23.5
Weeden +1.3
Cassel -16.0

3rd DOWN
Average Distance To Go on 3rd Down
Romo 7.7
Weeden 7.4
Cassel 8.6

Team 3rd-Down Conversion Percentage
Romo 45.0% 18 of 40
Weeden 29.8% 11 of 37
Cassel 32.4% 12 of 37

Percentage of 3rd-Down Completions Resulting in a First Down
Romo 68.2% 15 of 22
Weeden 42.1% 8 of 19
Cassel 58.8% 10 of 17

This is with the last years Minnesota team right?

Enough said.

 

[DogFace]

Well ****.

 

[coult44]

Nope. 100% pure devil's advocate... Cassel's the QB now and I'm behind him for sure. I'm just genuinely troubled by the way the team has handled everything, from bringing in Weeden in the first place, to replacing him with Cassel. It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

You could do the exact same thing to find good numbers for him if you took the time and wanted to. Take all the odd games , or the indoor games, or the night games against defensive linemen who are all left handed. I appreciate the time it took you to do this, but you can fall ways find these types of stats to support any position.

 

[Blue&Silver]

Cassel's bad numbers are misleading, but yet of course everyone and their dog was working overtime trying to show how Weeden's good numbers (completion %, rating, QBR) were all misleading as well. Funny how that works around here.
At least with that crazy 3rd down distance on his track record, Cassel surely won't be unprepared for McFadden and Randle running into oblivion every first down, and Devin Street dropping his second down pass. It'll be just like old times.

Cassel sucks, and always has. I'm just hoping he surprises me playing with a better supporting cast then what he's used to. We definitely need to run the ball better than we have to date.

 

[Idgit]

Cassel sucks, and always has. I'm just hoping he surprises me playing with a better supporting cast then what he's used to. We definitely need to run the ball better than we have to date.

He hasn't always sucked. Just recently.

 

[percyhoward]

Why bother? Why pick a segment of 21 games? If you're going to do that, just use career stats. And if you're basing everything on pure stats, if anything is obvious over the last three weeks, statistics (see Brandon Weeden) certainly don't tell the story.

I am not interested in his career numbers, or in telling stories.