Romo's arm is fine, legs are not

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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.
 

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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.
Your right but it doesn't matter. Still has trouble passing.
 

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Doesn't matter anymore Romo got his money so we'll have to deal with this for at least another season. I personally think Romo's last season will be in 2015, I don't think there is any way in the world Romo can get 4 more years out of his body like Jerry and Stephen Jones said this summer.

The guy is in a decline like we've seen with a lot of Qb's his age. A bad back doesn't get better the older you get only worse.
 

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Doesn't matter anymore Romo got his money so we'll have to deal with this for at least another season. I personally think Romo's last season will be in 2015, I don't think there is any way in the world Romo can get 4 more years out of his body like Jerry and Stephen Jones said this summer.

The guy is in a decline like we've seen with a lot of Qb's his age. A bad back doesn't get better the older you get only worse.

I never been a Romo fan and I thought giving him a extension was just stupid but.. It took Manning about a year to get his arm strength back. So if we're stuck with him I hope he recovers fully..
 

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BTW - I did not create this thread to argue pro / con about Romo rather I wanted to give a little insight into what is probably happening to cause what everyone sees on the field.
 
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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.

I think when people refer to arm strength with a QB, they're referring to their ability to throw the ball. If they can't make strong throws, then it would be referred to as having a weak arm regardless of the underlying reasons. A QB like Romo that never had a cannon probably needs everything functioning correctly including legs, back arm, etc.. A QB like Farve could make all of the throws sitting on the toilet.

Having said the above, the reports and claims that Romo can't make the required throws is vastly exaggerated. He has made several strong throws including one that went 60 yards in game 1. His problem appears to be that his "feel" is off and in game 2 he wanted to error on the side of caution with his throws. Most of the throws that he made in game 2 there were a little short, were safe as long as they were short but were in danger if they had been long. The strong throws that he made in game 2 were generally the type that if he over-threw it, that is was still safe, such as a throw to the sidelines. An over-thrown ball on a sideline route would just go out of bounds; whereas and over-thrown ball in the middle of the field could easily be picked off.
 

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I think when people refer to arm strength with a QB, they're referring to their ability to throw the ball. If they can't make strong throws, then it would be referred to as having a weak arm regardless of the underlying reasons. A QB like Romo that never had a cannon probably needs everything functioning correctly including legs, back arm, etc.. A QB like Farve could make all of the throws sitting on the toilet.

Having said the above, the reports and claims that Romo can't make the required throws is vastly exaggerated. He has made several strong throws including one that went 60 yards in game 1. His problem appears to be that his "feel" is off and in game 2 he wanted to error on the side of caution with his throws. Most of the throws that he made in game 2 there were a little short, were safe as long as they were short but were in danger if they had been long. The strong throws that he made in game 2 were generally the type that if he over-threw it, that is was still safe, such as a throw to the sidelines. An over-thrown ball on a sideline route would just go out of bounds; whereas and over-thrown ball in the middle of the field could easily be picked off.

His feel could be off because that type of injury also causes numbness down the leg.
 

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His feel could be off because that type of injury also causes numbness down the leg.

Yes, there could be some numbness or they could have given him some type of pain killing meds before the game. I actually thought he might have taken a bottle of Vicodin or maybe some Heroin before game 1 considering the decisions that he made.;) His INTs in game 1 were not due to physical problems, he just made really bad decisions. He obviously cleaned that up in game 2.
 

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this seems plausible but his footwork is terrible on some throws even when there is zero pressure.
 

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Yes, there could be some numbness or they could have given him some type of pain killing meds before the game. I actually thought he might have taken a bottle of Vicodin or maybe some Heroin before game 1 considering the decisions that he made.;) His INTs in game 1 were not due to physical problems, he just made really bad decisions. He obviously cleaned that up in game 2.

or he makes his read and then his throw but his leg is slowing him down and causing him to make a bad throw. Sometimes timing and accuracy are the difference between an amazing thread the needle pass and an interception that makes you think ***, why did he do that. I am not saying this is the case but given his injury it is possible. I am not defending Romo rather just pointing out what his type of injury can cause. His brain may not be on the same page as his body post injury. Throws he could once make may now not be possible.
 

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He has changed his mechanics in a attempt to protect his back, it's obvious with the inaccuracy and flight of the ball from time to time in ALL routes. It was clear he injured himself early in the last game, must have received a shot or two at the half. This cannot continue, DL's will take a flag just to rough him up.
 

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this seems plausible but his footwork is terrible on some throws even when there is zero pressure.

and footwork is your brain sending signals to your legs and your legs responding accordingly. With his injury the mental process can be all right but the signals don't make it to the legs properly. Again not saying this is the case rather just throwing it out there.
 

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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.

I'm pretty sure the herniated disk wasn't anywhere close to his sciatic nerve. I believe it was much higher up on his back.
 

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I'm pretty sure the herniated disk wasn't anywhere close to his sciatic nerve. I believe it was much higher up on his back.

His injury last year was between the L4-L5 vertebrae which is in near the bottom of the lumbar spine. The Sciatic nerve runs through the entire lumbar spine. The cyst from the previous season may have been higher on his back but I am not sure. I can guarantee an injury at this level causes sciatic nerve issues.
 

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Peyton has arm damage in his throwing arm & I've read various interviews where he says his arm is not going to ever be as strong.

Peyton's injury was in his neck or cervical spine which affect the arms just like lumbar spine issues like Romo's affect the legs.
 

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My post should read Peyton has NERVE damage in his throwing arm. He has had to compensate for the loss of arm strength.
 

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My post should read Peyton has NERVE damage in his throwing arm. He has had to compensate for the loss of arm strength.

It took Peyton a while to learn to compensate for his lack of arm strength which in his case given his injury is in his neck is truly arm strength. Romo's injury in his lumbar spine is different. His arm is likely just as strong but appears weaker due to the lack of leg strength caused by his injury. Hopefully he can learn to adjust to this like Peyton did but I think it may be harder with lumbar spine issues.
 

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It took Peyton a while to learn to compensate for his lack of arm strength which in his case given his injury is in his neck is truly arm strength. Romo's injury in his lumbar spine is different. His arm is likely just as strong but appears weaker due to the lack of leg strength caused by his injury. Hopefully he can learn to adjust to this like Peyton did but I think it may be harder with lumbar spine issues.

The last interview of Peyton's I read re his arm he said he has reached a medical impasse regarding the damage done & he just has to live with it as it is.
 

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The last interview of Peyton's I read re his arm he said he has reached a medical impasse regarding the damage done & he just has to live with it as it is.

Very true. I am actually at the very same point after my injuries and surgeries. I do live with it but my job doesn't depend on me making accurate throws. Peyton adjusted but can Romo. We all hope so.
 
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