Romo's arm is fine, legs are not

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or he makes his read and then his throw but his leg is slowing him down and causing him to make a bad throw. Sometimes timing and accuracy are the difference between an amazing thread the needle pass and an interception that makes you think ***, why did he do that. I am not saying this is the case but given his injury it is possible. I am not defending Romo rather just pointing out what his type of injury can cause. His brain may not be on the same page as his body post injury. Throws he could once make may now not be possible.

He threw into triple coverage on Dez on a play where T. Williams was open just 5 to 10 yards to the left of Dez.

He didn't see a wide open Harris on the INT in the end-zone.

They ran play-action with Romo taking his eyes off the field on all 3 INTs. That was a big part of the problem, IMO.

The good thing is that he cleaned up his issues in game 2.
 

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He threw into triple coverage on Dez on a play where T. Williams was open just 5 to 10 yards to the left of Dez.

He didn't see a wide open Harris on the INT in the end-zone.

They ran play-action with Romo taking his eyes off the field on all 3 INTs. That was a big part of the problem, IMO.

The good thing is that he cleaned up his issues in game 2.

Again I am not defending Romo although I am a huge fan. He has and will make mistakes but I think his injury is causing more problems than people realize. The leg pain could cause problems with his normal read progressions too. His type of injury can be devastating. When my leg hurts from my similar injury and surgery it affects me mentally and physically.
 

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Again I am not defending Romo although I am a huge fan. He has and will make mistakes but I think his injury is causing more problems than people realize. The leg pain could cause problems with his normal read progressions too. His type of injury can be devastating. When my leg hurts from my similar injury and surgery it affects me mentally and physically.

So who is he hurting more, himself or the team?
 

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So who is he hurting more, himself or the team?

Again, I am not defending or criticizing Romo rather trying to enlighten people about his type of injury. I am not going to judge whether he is able to play or not, that is on the coaching staff, however when your backup is Weeden???? then it opens a ton of concerns. It is not his fault he doesn't have a quality back up. I have said in other threads the team should have drafted a potential replacement just because I understand what this type of injury can do to a person.
 

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Very true. I am actually at the very same point after my injuries and surgeries. I do live with it but my job doesn't depend on me making accurate throws. Peyton adjusted but can Romo. We all hope so.

I hope so too.
 

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Again, I am not defending or criticizing Romo rather trying to enlighten people about his type of injury. I am not going to judge whether he is able to play or not, that is on the coaching staff, however when your backup is Weeden???? then it opens a ton of concerns. It is not his fault he doesn't have a quality back up. I have said in other threads the team should have drafted a potential replacement just because I understand what this type of injury can do to a person.

I guess I should rephrase the question, does playing football in this condition cause further damage to his body? I really believe Weeden in a reduced bus driver capacity is currently better than Romo, at least he can throw better, decisions are about the same though.
 

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I guess I should rephrase the question, does playing football in this condition cause further damage to his body? I really believe Weeden in a reduced bus driver capacity is currently better than Romo, at least he can throw better, decisions are about the same though.

The first part of your question would be better answered by his doctors and the training staff. I just don't know. Your second statement could open a huge debate which I would like to avoid in this thread. Again, I am not arguing for or against Romo rather just pointing out what his type of injury can do to a person. Best case scenario is he adjust and comes around to being close to the awesome QB we know and most (but not all) love.
 

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I think Romo's issues have to do with two back surgeries.

I am not sure if the cyst removal before last season impacted a nerve or not. His performance last season would indicate it didn't but I can't say for sure. His current injury definitely impacted a nerve and thus could cause the problems we are seeing on the field.

I am no doctor and can't speak for Romo but I have had the same injury and surgery as him at the same age. That was 11 years ago and I am nor near the man I used to be and I don't get hit by 300 lbs. guys for a living.
 

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this seems plausible but his footwork is terrible on some throws even when there is zero pressure.

He appears to bet lazy on some throws but that's not terribly unusual with elite players taking liberties when the throw is 'easy'. Problem is it carries over to other times and then there can be a problem.
 

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Not sure why people can't understand Romo has had only one back surgery. Removing a subcutaneous cyst is not considered back surgery even if said cyst is on the back. Now if that cyst was deeper than the subcutaneous tissue and required manipulation of the dura etc then maybe you could stretch the definition some but not as far as it being a back surgery.

Having said that if there is dysfunction from the one back surgery mox nix.

And Romo is throwing the ball fine. He's just not throwing it with good decisions and he's being very careful IMO.
 

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Not sure why people can't understand Romo has had only one back surgery. Removing a subcutaneous cyst is not considered back surgery even if said cyst is on the back. Now if that cyst was deeper than the subcutaneous tissue and required manipulation of the dura etc then maybe you could stretch the definition some but not as far as it being a back surgery.

Having said that if there is dysfunction from the one back surgery mox nix.

And Romo is throwing the ball fine. He's just not throwing it with good decisions and he's being very careful IMO.

You are 100% correct on the cyst removal. Unless the cyst was between the disc near the nerves it is not near the same as a laminectomy.

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All I know is he needs to get better no matter what the problem is. Finding QBs isn't easy. I'm hoping we get a very good Romo back while we find his replacement. Who want's to go through the Carter, Hutchinson and Henson era again?
 

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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.

Bryan Broaddus has been saying it's his legs for at least a week now, not that anyone else on Talkin' Cowboys agrees with him.

I think Romo has struggled with bouts of inaccuracy throughout his career, not just this year.

I think it's his back, but if back surgery affected his legs, then this will be his last year as an NFL QB.
 

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Bryan Broaddus has been saying it's his legs for at least a week now, not that anyone else on Talkin' Cowboys agrees with him.

I think Romo has struggled with bouts of inaccuracy throughout his career, not just this year.

I think it's his back, but if back surgery affected his legs, then this will be his last year as an NFL QB.

I don't get Talkin" Cowboys but these type of back injuries definitely affect the legs even though the actually injury is in the back. Maybe Broaddus has had a back injury too and understands. Even if he hasn't I say he is on the right track.
 

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All I know is he needs to get better no matter what the problem is. Finding QBs isn't easy. I'm hoping we get a very good Romo back while we find his replacement. Who want's to go through the Carter, Hutchinson and Henson era again?

Couldn't agree more!!!!
 

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I would love to sit and talk to Romo about this (who wouldn't??? lol;)) but I have a feeling he and I could really relate concerning what he is going through and how it affects him.
 

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I see a lot of post saying Romo's arm is not strong any more (not that it was ever a cannon), but I just wanted to correct or enlighten everyone that the problem is probably not his arm but his leg. When he had a lower back injury that required surgery, he had a pinched sciatic nerve. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and goes all the way down the legs to the foot. I can say from experience that this type of injury causes major pain and weakness down the leg. Even after surgery you can have pain and weakness down your leg. It is my feeling that Romo is experiencing leg weakness/pain rather than arm weakness.

Now granted this is just my opinion but the legs do figure prominently into someone throwing a football.

I think you're correct that his arm is fine,but the poor throws are more balance and footwork issues, IMO.
 
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