Romo's final 5 games last season

[playmakers]

If you look at the games following his five touchdown performance against the Bucs, there is something unique about each game.


New Orleans= After going up 7-0 early the Cowboys hardly had the ball after the 1st quarter. THe Saints played ball control by dinking and dumping to the fullback on third downs. No Quarterback could get into a rhythm when there defense doesnt get off the field for long periods.

Falcons= He played pretty well, 278 that included a long TD to Owens. The team scored 38 points its hard to argue with that.

Eagles= This game was kind of a carbon copy of the Saints but somewhat worse in my opinion. The Eagles had the ball the entire game. And when the O was out there they were flat. I beileve there was a 2 to 1 time of poession difference. I know the Eagles first two drives went for 10 minutes and 7 minutes.

Lions= Romo put up 38 points, what else can you ask from a QB. Ditto the Falcons game.

Playoffs

Seahawks= I dont know if you guys felt the same but Romo was told not to take any chances and I defintly could tell by his play. He just played with a dont lose the game mentailty instead of the go win mentatilty. That was all on Parcells. Im not ripping Parcells either, he was a good coach in my opinion.

In closing, all Im saying is we have a darn good quarterback prospect on our hands. I know some prospects fail but the majority do succeed. He isnt in the clear yet but I think he's going to be alright.

What are some of the compliants against him? I feel comfortable with him and I dont know about the rest on here.

 

[BouncingCheese]

If you look at the games following his five touchdown performance against the Bucs, there is something unique about each game.


New Orleans= After going up 7-0 early the Cowboys hardly had the ball after the 1st quarter. THe Saints played ball control by dinking and dumping to the fullback on third downs. No Quarterback could get into a rhythm when there defense doesnt get off the field for long periods.

Falcons= He played pretty well, 278 that included a long TD to Owens. The team scored 38 points its hard to argue with that.

Eagles= This game was kind of a carbon copy of the Saints but somewhat worse in my opinion. The Eagles had the ball the entire game. And when the O was out there they were flat. I beileve there was a 2 to 1 time of poession difference. I know the Eagles first two drives went for 10 minutes and 7 minutes.

Lions= Romo put up 38 points, what else can you ask from a QB. Ditto the Falcons game.

Playoffs

Seahawks= I dont know if you guys felt the same but Romo was told not to take any chances and I defintly could tell by his play. He just played with a dont lose the game mentailty instead of the go win mentatilty. That was all on Parcells. Im not ripping Parcells either, he was a good coach in my opinion.

In closing, all Im saying is we have a darn good quarterback prospect on our hands. I know some prospects fail but the majority do succeed. He isnt in the clear yet but I think he's going to be alright.

What are some of the compliants against him? I feel comfortable with him and I dont know about the rest on here.

The disgusting thing about it is that the Seahawks had such a depleted secondary yet I think we rarely challenged them... If we had such a terrible ending to the season and were GIVEN a playoff spot essentially by mathematics and not by our play, wouldn't you think we would try to go out guns blazing? I mean it is a bit ridiculous to me IMO.

Great points and post, though it is a rehash.

 

[hendog]

I think he'll be wonderful. He's the least of our worries - IMO.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Our strategy in the Seattle game (or lack thereof) is one that will baffle us for ages to come.

 

[superpunk]

Romo played terribly in the playoff game. Fortunately, his body of work was good enough that we REALLY don't need to keep blaming other people for his screw up just to make us feel better about his future. Romo was the one out there not pulling the trigger to open receivers over the top, Romo was the one throwing off target passes to Glenn on screens deep in our own zone. Not every player needs excuses made for them, people - and Romo certainly is one that doesn't. If he had shown up in that game the way Julius Jones and some members of our defense did, we'd have won running away. He didn't, and we didn't. There's not much shame there with his first playoff game.

Overall though, I agree - his last 5 games are not excessive cause for alarm. He was put in terrible positions by the rest of his team, whether it be the inept run game or defense, and he still palyed well, finishing with a 70% completion pct. on 3rd and 6+ - unheard of, especially considering how often we were putting him in those spots.

 

[sandy007]

I think Romo will be solid next year if he protects the ball. I cannot remember the last time Dallas had the QB run to get a first down if it was short yards. NFL reporters never consider the drops by WR that hurt Dallas in key games. Less drops mean a better record and increase Romo's confidence and numbers.

 

[bobtheflob]

I quickly averaged his numbers for those games and this is what I came up with:
CMP ATT YDS CMP% TD INT Rating
18.7 31 239.3 0.602 1.2 1.3 79.58

Obviously not spectacular, but not terrible either, especially considering this was his worst stretch.

That QB rating is higher than E. Manning, Hasselbeck, Vick, Roethlisberger, Farve, and Young (among others) had for the whole season.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

Since I was bored, and this debate over who was responsible for the clubs demise over the stretch of last year interests me I decided to do a little research on my own. I apologize if this information has already been posted, but I don’t get here every day.

I took the 10 games that Romo started and looked at performance based on points scored which in essence is the only important stat. If you look at the offense over that 10 game stretch they averaged 25.6 points/game on offense while giving up 22.2 points/game on defense.

If you break that down into opposing offenses that are in the top 16 of the NFL the average points given up on defense increases to 25.8 while the offensive numbers against top 16 defenses decreases to 24.25 That represents a -2.25 point difference when playing against better teams. That means that the defense gave up 2.25 MORE points than the offense did.

If you compare that to performances against units in the bottom 16 of the league that is where the difference is really telling:

Offense versus bottom 16 defenses averaged 26.5 points/game while the defense versus bottom 16 ranked offenses gave up 18.25 points/game.

When you take all of those averages into consideration you see that the offense remained fairly consistent:

Total 25.6
Top 16 defenses 24.25
Bottom 16 26.5

The defense on the other hand:

Total 22.2
Top 16 Offenses 25.8
Bottom 16 Offense 18.25

I used the NFL ranking to determine who was in the top or bottom, these rankings are based on total yards gained and total yards given up.

The ranking for the teams we faced are as follows:

Offense:
NFL Rank Team
1 Saints
2 Eagles
3 Colts
12 Falcons
13 Commanders
14 Giants
18 Cardinals
22 Lions
24 Panthers
27 Bucs

Defense:
NFL Rank Team
7 Panthers
11 Saints
15 Eagles
17 Bucs
21 Colts
22 Falcons
25 Giants
28 Lions
29 Cardinals
31 Commanders

The other interesting fact I noticed was that the defense faced much stiffer competition as whole than our offense lined up against.

While I am drinking the warm kool-aid about Romo being the real deal, I firmly believe that the deciding factor for our success next year or lack thereof rests squarely on the shoulders of our defense. I was very encouraged to read in the Demarcus Ware interview the following:

DeMarcus Ware Interview
CowboysBoard.Com
22 MAY 07

"Keep believing in the Cowboys because I really think we are about to do something special with these great group of guys. We are hungry and we are ready."

That statement has me pumped for 2007!!!

That’s it, I hope some of you find this as interesting as I did.

 

[theogt]

Romo played terribly in the playoff game.

I'm not so sure about that. You take the Witten fumble, the Glenn fumble, the Terry Glenn drop, the Terrell Owens drop, and the Patrick Crayton drop away and his performance looks pretty good. All of those were catchable throws and several were perfectly on target. Then of course, there's the Witten first down that wasn't. If he makes that first down, Romo looks like a God.

I know every QB has WRs that drop balls, but if you're going to talk about a single game, you have to look at every single pass, and he was getting the ball where it needed to be.

 

[jobberone]

Thanks for the post. We've seen similar numbers but I haven't seen some of it given in that format.

The offense definitely put up the numbers needed to win. Esp compared to the last decade. Some of us have cried for years for the offense to average 25 a game. We'd have been SB contenders much of that time if we had. We finally get the O going and the D collapes at the end. Which is not unlike some other years under Parcells.

Romo should be at least adequate for the offense given him. I think he'll be much better.

I agree with you. The defense is the key. And I think we've done enough to put us in position to average 17 points a game given up. I would have liked us to have gone after another pass rusher and proven CB. There we're a few out there. I understand why they didn't but I hope it doesn't bite us in the butt.

 

[theogt]

The defense gave up 30+ points per game in the last 5-6 games. There's really no other way of slicing it -- the defense was the problem.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Our strategy in the Seattle game (or lack thereof) is one that will baffle us for ages to come.

I'm getting sick of waiting for this stupid season to start! :insane:

 

[superpunk]

I'm not so sure about that. You take the Witten fumble, the Glenn fumble, the Terry Glenn drop, the Terrell Owens drop, and the Patrick Crayton drop away and his performance looks pretty good. All of those were catchable throws and several were perfectly on target. Then of course, there's the Witten first down that wasn't. If he makes that first down, Romo looks like a God.

I know every QB has WRs that drop balls, but if you're going to talk about a single game, you have to look at every single pass, and he was getting the ball where it needed to be.

He was jumpy and off for most of the game. We had guys open and he was missing, or not even throwing it. He didn't really show up. That's not terrible, I just don't think we need to be blaming other people. It wasn't a horrible performance overall, but I expected him to rise to the occasion. If we really believe (and I do) that Romo is a top QB in the league, then it doesn't make sense to give him passes. Brady, Manning and Palmer don't get the "conservative game plan" band-aid when they don't show up. Romo doesn't either. He's good enough to excel in any game plan, he just didn't have it that day.

 

[Dhragon]

I expected Romo to have growing pains when he first took over. All QBs do in fact. Almost everybody on my previous board thought so as well. When he took off like he did it surprised most ( in a good way of course ).

Then, when he started NOT playing as well, people were like ***.

Romo's inexperience caught up with him a little people. That's all. Somehow he delayed the growing pains but he couldn't avoid them completely later on. He played so well at first people threw away his grace window as they drank the Kool-aid.

Barring Redball installing an offense Romo can't click with, Romo will eventually grow out of his inexperience and become a much more consistent ( and consistently good ) QB like he showed he was capable of his first handful of games.

Not sure if he'll be playing at a Probowl level the entire upcoming season, but I'd wager that by the end of next season, he'll be close.

 

[theogt]

He was jumpy and off for most of the game. We had guys open and he was missing, or not even throwing it. He didn't really show up. That's not terrible, I just don't think we need to be blaming other people. It wasn't a horrible performance overall, but I expected him to rise to the occasion. If we really believe (and I do) that Romo is a top QB in the league, then it doesn't make sense to give him passes. Brady, Manning and Palmer don't get the "conservative game plan" band-aid when they don't show up. Romo doesn't either. He's good enough to excel in any game plan, he just didn't have it that day.

That, I simply disagree with. I went back and charted the entire game on Romo just a week or so ago. Tonight or this weekend, I'll post it.

I may even go buy a video editing program and post every single clip of him throwing in that game. I've been wanting to do that for awhile and with the recent Parcells/Phillips video comparison thread, I'm excited to do some similar work.

But hey, even if you think his Seattle performance wasn't that great, you have to say he performed better than Brady and Manning did during their respective early playoff games. How many INTs did those guys combine for?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm not so sure about that. You take the Witten fumble, the Glenn fumble, the Terry Glenn drop, the Terrell Owens drop, and the Patrick Crayton drop away and his performance looks pretty good. All of those were catchable throws and several were perfectly on target. Then of course, there's the Witten first down that wasn't. If he makes that first down, Romo looks like a God.

I know every QB has WRs that drop balls, but if you're going to talk about a single game, you have to look at every single pass, and he was getting the ball where it needed to be.

I agree with you.

Superpunk just cheap-shotted our QB.

 

[theogt]

I agree with you.

Superpunk just cheap-shotted our QB.

It's all that rage against the Romo-machine

 

[superpunk]

That, I simply disagree with. I went back and charted the entire game on Romo just a week or so ago. Tonight or this weekend, I'll post it.

I may even go buy a video editing program and post every single clip of him throwing in that game. I've been wanting to do that for awhile and with the recent Parcells/Phillips video comparison thread, I'm excited to do some similar work.

But hey, even if you think his Seattle performance wasn't that great, you have to say he performed better than Brady and Manning did during their respective early playoff games. How many INTs did those guys combine for?

ok, you disagree. That's fine.

I think he's one of the best QBs in the NFL. He showed enough. I think his accomplishments and failures should stand on their own, with no excuses or downplaying. I wouldn't want anyone to toss "He's a system QB/he only succeeds because of TO and Glenn" at me - i don't think it's fair to excuse a poor outing by him with "gameplan." He could have played alot better in that game, against that competition. Maybe next year...

I agree with you.

Superpunk just cheap-shotted our QB.

All that praise I doused on him, and the company I put him in, and that's what you got?

The hell you say!

 

[theogt]

ok, you disagree. That's fine.

I think he's one of the best QBs in the NFL. He showed enough. I think his accomplishments and failures should stand on their own, with no excuses or downplaying. I wouldn't want anyone to toss "He's a system QB/he only succeeds because of TO and Glenn" at me - i don't think it's fair to excuse a poor outing by him with "gameplan." He could have played alot better in that game, against that competition. Maybe next year...

I thought what you thought regarding the Seattle game initially as well. I didn't watch the game for a 2nd time until recently, and I only just very recently watched it to chart Romo. Until then I thought his performance was poor, but my perception changed when I watched it closely. Maybe I can change yours this weekend.

 

[superpunk]

I thought what you thought regarding the Seattle game initially as well. I didn't watch the game for a 2nd time until recently, and I only just very recently watched it to chart Romo. Until then I thought his performance was poor, but my perception changed when I watched it closely. Maybe I can change yours this weekend.

Doubtful.

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heh....maybe.

In any case, I'd like to see it. I'd like any of the games from the past year to look at.