Romo's Passer Rating Against Playoff Teams:

[CowboyBlog]

Those "stats" don't mean squat. If the rest of the team was playing lights out I could see it. The whole team has playes bad the last two games.

The team has played bad against good teams. Romo is included. There are the stats the prove it.

Except the defense played really good against some good teams over the last 6 weeks. (Colts / Giants / Carolina game)

 

[Dave_in-NC]

The team has played bad against good teams. Romo is included. There are the stats the prove it.

Except the defense played really good against some good teams over the last 6 weeks. (Colts / Giants / Carolina game)

I'm not excluding Romo. The Cowboys have played bad the last two weeks period.
When the team plays bad, you can't expect one player to be lights out.
look at Payton Manning yesterday.

 

[CowboyBlog]

I'm not excluding Romo. The Cowboys have played bad the last two weeks period.
When the team plays bad, you can't expect one player to be lights out.
look at Payton Manning yesterday.

Those stats have nothing to do with Payton Manning. I'm sure you could pull out Manning's stats this year against bad teams and they look amazing just like Romo's, but we are just talking about playing well against good teams.

Romo doesn't do it.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm all for stats, but QB rating isn't the greatest stat to look at when determining a QB's performance and if you look at the games, Romo played very well in 3 of them and poorly in one of them (I'm looking at the games he started).

He actually played a lot better in the 2nd Giants game than given credit for considering he had 5 dropped passes, 1 of which bounced off of Glenn and led to an INT which hurts his QB rating. The Colts game he went 19 for 23. And the Panthers game he played very well.

I'm more concerned about how they react to the way the Giants and Saints defended him (keeping him in the pocket) which is still easier said than done. Still, the entire team played poorly. The second INT was a perfect example with Dallas should have been on first down, but Kosier had a false start leaving them 4th and 5. Then on that play either Crayton or Witten ran a poor route and ran into each other, which completely threw the timing of the pattern off and Romo was forced to throw it to a place where they practically had no chance.

Even still, when you give up 500+ total yards, that's your main problem right there.



YAKUZA

 

[alancdc]

Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS

2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game​

1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.​

1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.​

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record

This whole deal about playing agaisnt winning teams is so misleading in the NFL of 2006. This "winning" teams deal changes from week to week. Had you opened this thread the Falcons and Eagles would be in your under .500 category.. The Carolina game for instance that you use as a reference...They are under .500 NOW, but weren't when we played them as they had actually won 3 out of their last 4 I believe. On the other hand, Atl and Philly. The Falcons were 5 and 6 two weeks ago, and now they are this "WINNING TEAM"! The Eagles were 5 and 6 as of 2 weeks ago. The Eagles sucked yesterday. No offense at all. You are worried about Jeff Garcia at home? If we can't beat the Eagles with Jeff Freakin Garcia then we deserve to stay home. You play who you play, and you get the stats against NFL players that are getting paid. This "winning team" theory doesn't hold any significance at all, and to discount Romo's numbers on this argument is shortsighted.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The team has played bad against good teams. Romo is included. There are the stats the prove it.

Except the defense played really good against some good teams over the last 6 weeks. (Colts / Giants / Carolina game)

How did Romo play bad against Indy or Carolina?

And he really played rather well in the 2nd Giants game. Like I said, he had 5 drops (not to mention drawing a 27 yard PI call that doesn't go on his stats). He played bad against the Saints, but so far this season he's played very well regardless of how good or bad the opponent is.



YAKUZA

 

[Aikmaniac]

I'm all for stats, but QB rating isn't the greatest stat to look at when determining a QB's performance and if you look at the games, Romo played very well in 3 of them and poorly in one of them (I'm looking at the games he started).

He actually played a lot better in the 2nd Giants game than given credit for considering he had 5 dropped passes, 1 of which bounced off of Glenn and led to an INT which hurts his QB rating. The Colts game he went 19 for 23. And the Panthers game he played very well.

I'm more concerned about how they react to the way the Giants and Saints defended him (keeping him in the pocket) which is still easier said than done. Still, the entire team played poorly. The second INT was a perfect example with Dallas should have been on first down, but Kosier had a false start leaving them 4th and 5. Then on that play either Crayton or Witten ran a poor route and ran into each other, which completely threw the timing of the pattern off and Romo was forced to throw it to a place where they practically had no chance.

Even still, when you give up 500+ total yards, that's your main problem right there.



YAKUZA

Hark! What a concept.

Again, it didn't matter how good/bad Romo was, the defense was just plain horrible. No pass rush, crappy coverage, little to no adjustments by Zimmer and the defense (if there was, I didn't see it)

Props to the Saints though. They pretty much proved how insignificant preseason is.

 

[noshame]

Oh well, stats or no stats. Even when Romo had time last night he didn't see defenders, it happened some last week also, that could be troubling.

 

[Unforgiven]

Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS

2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game
1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.
1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.
​

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record

I wouldn't expect it to be the other way around, would you? They are playoff teams for a reason.

If you had the time, you could probably take the best QB's in the history of the NFL, and show a similar trend.

 

[Unforgiven]

How did Romo play bad against Indy or Carolina?

And he really played rather well in the 2nd Giants game. Like I said, he had 5 drops (not to mention drawing a 27 yard PI call that doesn't go on his stats). He played bad against the Saints, but so far this season he's played very well regardless of how good or bad the opponent is.



YAKUZA

Stats only tell half the story. Great example, had Parcells called pass plays instead of running Barber inside the ten, against the Giants, Romo could have had two more TD's. Would that have all of the sudden made his game that much better? It would have raised his QB rating 20 points. The outcome would have remained the same.

Stats=1/2 the story.

 

[CowboyBlog]

I wouldn't expect it to be the other way around, would you? They are playoff teams for a reason.

If you had the time, you could probably take the best QB's in the history of the NFL, and show a similar trend.

Every QB should be affected somewhat by the quality of the opponent. Better rating against bad teams, worse rating against good teams.

Except, really good QB's will not have that bad of a TD/INT ratio which drives the QB rating system.

 

[alancdc]

Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS

2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game​

1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.​

1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.​

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record

I would be interested in seeing your list of highly paid FA QB's that are somehow going to be out there for the taking! Doesn't throw the ball down the field well? Are you insane? If whiney #&@#@#(8 TO could make a routine catch last night, or I don't know, against the Commanders that was on a dime from 50 good heavens. I guess you see what you want to see.

 

[Unforgiven]

Every QB should be affected somewhat by the quality of the opponent. Better rating against bad teams, worse rating against good teams.

Except, really good QB's will not have that bad of a TD/INT ratio which drives the QB rating system.

Again though, doesn't playcalling directly result in the amount of TD's a QB throws. How many TD's has Barber scored? What if we called pass plays on first down inside the ten instead of Barber. See my point?

I don't put a lot of stock in the amount of TD passes, but more on the amount of TD ending drives.

 

[gbrittain]

Well, lets see what the alternative is.

Bledsoe against playoff contending teams this year:

Jacksonville 45.8 QB rating
Phily 47.4 QB Rating
1/2 game against NY 58.3

From where I am sitting Romo is light years ahead of the alternative.

 

[kartr]

Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS

2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game​

1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.​

1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.​

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record

You're exactly right. I don't understand how everybody doesn't understand this. Even Parcells said that 'Romo can drive a cadillac, but he can't drive a Ford'. Let's get us a qb who can drive either one. Romo is a nice kid, but he is a 'limited athlete', that why he was undrafted, and for good reason.

 

[kartr]

Ok.

In 6 games you can accurately rate a QB on being "average" or "above average?"

I'm sorry, I didnt know you were some sort of NFL-Expert / Propeht.

Please excuse whatever this guy says "fans."

I know better that most people around here dont need your "expert" opinion and that 99% of the people reading will tell you the same thing...

that it is way too early to stamp an "average" on Romo.

Once again, its been 6 games. And again, thats 6 games.

Good luck for your search for a team to hire you as their next top talent scout.

How many 'star qb's' go undrafted? It's not just the 6 games that he's played, it's how he's played against good teams and how he's played against bad teams.

 

[Doomsday101]

How many 'star qb's' go undrafted? It's not just the 6 games that he's played, it's how he's played against good teams and how he's played against bad teams.

You are so full of it. Romo has a bad game which your boy had many of them and now here you are out of the wood work with your non-sense. Go get a clue for a change or do us all a favor and go pull for Alt they have the perfect QB for you.

 

[WoodysGirl]

How many 'star qb's' go undrafted? It's not just the 6 games that he's played, it's how he's played against good teams and how he's played against bad teams.

Amazing how you only show up after a loss and a poor showing. Boys go on a run and you were nowhere to be found.

You're so obvious.

 

[JPM]

Amazing how you only show up after a loss and a poor showing. Boys go on a run and you were nowhere to be found.

You're so obvious.

I know I'm shocked

 

[Zman5]

You want facts. Here is the most important stat. Romo is 3-1 against those teams.