Romo's peak already passed?

[DFWJC]

You say you don't THINK he is lazy in the offseason without producing any of the evidence that you seem so attached to. I know he plays golf, I know he goes to basketball games with a coach in a relationship that I find to be inappropriate in the fact that it could compromise objectivity regarding a player who is entering a very pivotal juncture both personally and for the franchise. I think he is still pretty effective moving inside the pocket but has really lost more than a step when he is forced to run.

yeah, you clearly don't or at least not how to apply it.I do know what he looks like though. Which is what I said. You are also correct he can be lazy in the offseason. Some would argue it was complacency among our core players that resulted in a team with so much talent achieving so little.

For a fellow tarheel, you sure are a downer.

If golf and basketball and going to the VR for workouts is not enough offseason, downtime activity for you, I don't really know what to say.

But anyway, when I qualify something with "THINK" that by definition it implies opinion and not fact. So no link required. I trust you get the concept.

The "fact" that you are getting likes from ufc tells me all I need to know about where you are on this topic.

Hate away, it's a free country.

 

[DFWJC]

and guess what- I think he has a right to be a little lazy in the offseason.

Sure he does. The guy has been beaten all to hell by year's end for about 5 years in a row now.

 

[tideh20heel]

For a fellow tarheel, you sure are a downer.

If golf and basketball and going to the VR for workouts is not enough offseason, downtime activity for you, I don't really know what to say.

But anyway, when I qualify something with "THINK" that by definition it implies opinion and not fact. So no link required. I trust you get the concept.

The "fact" that you are getting likes from ufc tells me all I need to know about where you are on this topic.

Hate away, it's a free country.

I don't hate Romo anymore than I hate Roy Williams with whom I routinely disagree on recruiting priorities and in game strategy. Any fan that is not frustrated by the direction of this franchise is a bit delusional. A young talented oline does give me some hope for the future. Romo is a focus of criticism not because I hate him but because he consumes a massive amount of resources and restricts the flexibility of this team to rebuild. Not being able to move on from Romo because of the massive financial consequences is one of the many great disservices the Jones family has put upon the people who pay these salaries. Bottom line is I expect more from Tony because he is paid to be elite and he has not earned the capital in the form of post season accomplishments to be given the benifit of the doubt.

 

[DFWJC]

I don't hate Romo anymore than I hate Roy Williams with whom I routinely disagree on recruiting priorities and in game strategy. Any fan that is not frustrated by the direction of this franchise is a bit delusional. A young talented oline does give me some hope for the future. Romo is a focus of criticism not because I hate him but because he consumes a massive amount of resources and restricts the flexibility of this team to rebuild. Not being able to move on from Romo because of the massive financial consequences is one of the many great disservices the Jones family has put upon the people who pay these salaries. Bottom line is I expect more from Tony because he is paid to be elite and he has not earned the capital in the form of post season accomplishments to be given the benifit of the doubt.

Of course we're all frustrated with the direction of the franchise. Nobody here said otherwise.

I happen to think Romo is very close to if not the least of the reasons why the team has been average.

The last 4 years the oline has sucked (but is now coming around) and the defense has been historically bad, and the run game has been weak (until finally improving some last year). No QB, NONE, can overcome that.

They don't want to move on from Romo. They would only want to move on from Romo if they thought he wasn't good enough to get it done. They strongly do.

You apparently don't, I apparently do (at least if they have a somewhat average defense)

 

[tideh20heel]

Of course we're all frustrated with the direction of the franchise. Nobody here said otherwise.

I happen to think Romo is very close to if not the least of the reasons why the team has been average.

The last 4 years the oline has sucked (but is now coming around) and the defense has been historically bad, and the run game has been weak (until finally improving some last year). No QB, NONE, can overcome that.

They don't want to move on from Romo. They u would only want to move on from Romo if you thought he wasn't good enough to get it done. They do.

You apparently don't, I apparently do (at least if they have a somewhat average defense)

I think he is a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl with a strong supporting cast. My doubts are if he can win with this team, with his contract in the rapidly closing age/injury window or if we are just simply throwing good money after bad.

 

[DFWJC]

I think he is a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl with a strong supporting cast. My doubts are if he can win with this team, with his contract in the rapidly closing age/injury window or if we are just simply throwing good money after bad.

Legit question

 

[rynochop]

i remember the posts last year that he wasnt throwing enough ints, takes a dyed in the wool hater to say that

 

[rynochop]

I think he is a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl with a strong supporting cast. My doubts are if he can win with this team, with his contract in the rapidly closing age/injury window or if we are just simply throwing good money after bad.

do you think he could have won the superbowl as the seahawks qb last yeaf

 

[DFWJC]

do you think he could have won the superbowl as the seahawks qb last yeaf

Absolutely.

Although no one ever knows for sure.

It's like asking if someone could have won instead of Flacco that year he got hot and lucky. Would anyone else have thrown that duck that safety misjudged and let glover his head to let Baltimore miraculously send that Denver game into OT? Hard to predict.
Same think with the helmet catch one year with giants that just followed the dropped Eli interception.
It takes good play AND luck sometimes.

Anyway, I agree with 44 on this one...maybe too much Romo talk lately.
Maybe they should have a Romo zone to weed it out.

 

[OhSnap]

I guess if yards per attempt has nothing to do with play calling you might be right but fortunately fans who try to figure out if he'll be the only reason we lose games or not don't call the plays so I'll be lookin forward to him playing untill I hear that you are in charge.

 

[jnday]

I don't hate Romo anymore than I hate Roy Williams with whom I routinely disagree on recruiting priorities and in game strategy. Any fan that is not frustrated by the direction of this franchise is a bit delusional. A young talented oline does give me some hope for the future. Romo is a focus of criticism not because I hate him but because he consumes a massive amount of resources and restricts the flexibility of this team to rebuild. Not being able to move on from Romo because of the massive financial consequences is one of the many great disservices the Jones family has put upon the people who pay these salaries. Bottom line is I expect more from Tony because he is paid to be elite and he has not earned the capital in the form of post season accomplishments to be given the benifit of the doubt.[/quote. Great post. Many posters will disagree with it, but sure don't .

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think he is a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl with a strong supporting cast. My doubts are if he can win with this team, with his contract in the rapidly closing age/injury window or if we are just simply throwing good money after bad.

Romo needs to have one Kurt Warner / Rams super bowl winning run. That us all!

 

[jday]

I was listening to an old around the league pod cast from a few days ago and one of the guys made argument that Romo's peak has passed. Not as good as he was 5 years ago. Said last 2 years were his worst.

What do you guys think. His yards per attempt were much lower last year than ever before. But he has less interceptions and plays it safer which I like.

Whether he's passed his peak or not, I don't think he's the only reason we'll lose games this season and definitely not the biggest reason. I'm looking toward the defense for that.

On paper, at this point, the offense is definitely the stronger part of this team...blame on offensive minded coach for that. But Romo is clearly passed his peak, IMO. But that doesn't mean he can't still a Championship.

 

[LatinMind]

Yes, physically, he is past his peak IMO. He is not the same player he was five years ago or even three. Does this mean that he can't be effective. It does not mean that at all. Elway was well past his peak when he won his championships.

Agree. He isnt what he was before injuries have taken something off his throws. But he can be successful if he plays smarter and within the system. Romo is his own worst enemy alot of the time.

 

[tideh20heel]

do you think he could have won the superbowl as the seahawks qb last yeaf

Absolutely he could have. We are a long way from Seattle and his cap number is a tad more restrictive than Wilson's. As a matter of fact we are the antithesis of Seattle. Crappy defense, aging qb with a big cap number and a coach that hates to run the ball.

 

[tyke1doe]

Is he pass his peak? Yes.
Can he win a Super Bowl pass his peak? Yes, if the culture and coaching dramatically change.
Remember, Elway won a Super Bowl past his peak. So did Jim Plunkett. So did Brad Johnson. So did Trent Dilfer.
Now, I don't think it will happen because I believe the Cowboy culture is poisonous. But I think he has enough of what it takes to win a Super Bowl, if you give him the right coach and the right scheme. I just don't know if it's possible in Dallas anymore.