Romo's peak already passed?

[ufcrules1]

Romo has never been elite, but when he was at his best, he was a good QB. He has some flaws that keeps him from being elite and he is past the point in his career to correct these flaws if they were correctable at all. I don't think he is as bad as some people say, but he is not as good as Jerry and some fans have made him out to be.

Agreed. Never elite but boy back in 07 he was extremely good and exciting as hell. I used to be a huge fan. Still have his jersey up in my office next to an Owens Jersey. I refuse to take them down.. I really enjoyed them back in 07.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I just wish he would have had a better coach . Such a wasted opportunity.

True but he played for a Parcells. Who wanted him to be more of a bus driver and less gunslinger. He knew Tony's weaknesses,,

 

[ufcrules1]

True but he played for a Parcells. Who wanted him to be more of a bus driver and less gunslinger. He knew Tony's weaknesses,,

Parcell's could have tamed him.. but unfortunately it is impossible to control JJ or keep him out of your hair. So no way Parcells could stay here.

 

[DFWJC]

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[DFWJC]

True but he played for a Parcells. Who wanted him to be more of a bus driver and less gunslinger. He knew Tony's weaknesses,,

I don't think Parcells wanted Romo to be a bus driver. He said early on that what set him apart was his fearlessness and aggressiveness. But he DID want him to further harness those skills to cut down on potential turnovers.

Romo could really have used Parcells, and more so , Sean Payton, for a few more years.

Btw, Old Bill did him disservice keeping him as the holder. People still equate that muffed special teams play somehow to him as a QB....conveniently forgetting that Romo the QB actually drove them down there for that would-be score.
Oh well, history.

 

[jnday]

Agreed. Never elite but boy back in 07 he was extremely good and exciting as hell. I used to be a huge fan. Still have his jersey up in my office next to an Owens Jersey. I refuse to take them down.. I really enjoyed them back in 07.

I really liked that version of Romo much better. He was fun to watch. If Romo could have kept that style play, I have doubts if his flaws would have ever been exposed and developed to the point that they have. I blame the coaching as part of the problem. Turnovers was an issue that he needed to work on, but he didn't need to change his game much. I don't care what the stats show, the dink and dunk version of Romo is hard to take.

 

[tideh20heel]

another one. Do you ever bother to do any research before you regurgitate BS?

Research what? I stood right next to him at Pebble Beach. He's chubby he's not the most fit dude. Are you arguing that physical conditioning is not advantageous or do you think a 27 million 2015 cap hit is reasonable. What should research?

 

[tideh20heel]

Link on his half-hearted conditioning...at least after he got the green light to do so?

If not, retract your statement.

The guy has been playing too heavy for years now. I'm not talking about rehab I'm talking about the last five years esp two years ago when he reportedly was over 240

 

[DFWJC]

The guy has been playing too heavy for years now. I'm not talking about rehab I'm talking about the last five years esp two years ago when he reportedly was over 240

Link to this 240 bs.

You keep saying stuff with no evidence.

If we make comments like that around here, then we usually are asked to support it somehow.

Otherwise we could pass anything on as if it's fact

 

[jnday]

I don't think Parcells wanted Romo to be a bus driver. He said early on that what set him apart was his fearlessness and aggressiveness. But he DID want him to further harness those skills to cut down on potential turnovers.

Romo could really have used Parcells, and more so , Sean Payton, for a few more years.

Old Bill did him disservice keeping him as the holder. People still equate that muffed special teams play somehow to him as a QB....conveniently forgetting that Romo the QB actually drove them down there for that would-be score.
Oh well, history.

I think a coach that had worked more with a gunslinging type of QB with success would have made a big difference in Romo's career. Parcell would have helped Romo in certain areas , but I think Romo would have some of the same problems that he has had with the coaches that came after him. Bill certainly saw Romo being drawn in to being "that guy" , that could be lured into being a celebrity QB with the exposure that a Cowboys' QB gets. One of the coaches that worked with Farve would have been a good fit for Romo. A different offense would have made a big difference as well IMO. Garrett's offense needs a typical pocket passer and that is exactly what they have tried to make of Romo. It is a case of not adjusting the offense to fit the talent IMO. It is all water under the bridge at this point.

 

[tideh20heel]

Link to this 240 bs.

You keep saying stuff with no evidence.

If we make comments like that around here, then we usually are asked to support it somehow.

Otherwise we could pass anything on as if it's fact

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/22/tony-romos-weight-is-not-a-concern-for-the-cowboys/.

Here is one source I came up with in about 30 seconds. The Cowboys listed him at 236. If you can't notice the decrease in mobility I can't help you. As for the evidence. All the evidence I need for this team's mediocrity from top to bottom is the win loss record.

 

[DFWJC]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/22/tony-romos-weight-is-not-a-concern-for-the-cowboys/.

Here is one source I came up with in about 30 seconds. The Cowboys listed him at 236. If you can't notice the decrease in mobility I can't help you. As for the evidence. All the evidence I need for this team's mediocrity from top to bottom is the win loss record.

Thanks for posting the link.

You said over 240. Btw

I thought maybe you were referring to that. Recall he was not even allowed to use the cycle after the cyst removal. He almost immediately wax fine so after that. His playing weight has always been about the same.
Any loss of mobility was due to any of the multiple injuries.
The guy have never been Adonis, but I do t think he's lazy in the offseason.

There are plenty of areas to nitpick on Romo, but his mobility certainly should not be one of the.

 

[Setackin]

Well... duh!!!

 

[burmafrd]

Research what? I stood right next to him at Pebble Beach. He's chubby he's not the most fit dude. Are you arguing that physical conditioning is not advantageous or do you think a 27 million 2015 cap hit is reasonable. What should research?

so you stood next to him one day and you know all about him. You know the definition of HUBRIS?

 

[burmafrd]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/22/tony-romos-weight-is-not-a-concern-for-the-cowboys/.

Here is one source I came up with in about 30 seconds. The Cowboys listed him at 236. If you can't notice the decrease in mobility I can't help you. As for the evidence. All the evidence I need for this team's mediocrity from top to bottom is the win loss record.

The Daily Turd is called that for a reason you know. I guess you are never allowed to put on some weight; have to stay at your playing weight 365 days of the year despite injuries and anything else. You really like getting owned I take it?

 

[burmafrd]

Thanks for posting the link.

You said over 240. Btw

I thought maybe you were referring to that. Recall he was not even allowed to use the cycle after the cyst removal. He almost immediately wax fine so after that. His playing weight has always been about the same.
Any loss of mobility was due to any of the multiple injuries.
The guy have never been Adonis, but I do t think he's lazy in the offseason.

There are plenty of areas to nitpick on Romo, but his mobility certainly should not be one of the.

and guess what- I think he has a right to be a little lazy in the offseason.

 

[tideh20heel]

Thanks for posting the link.

You said over 240. Btw

I thought maybe you were referring to that. Recall he was not even allowed to use the cycle after the cyst removal. He almost immediately wax fine so after that. His playing weight has always been about the same.
Any loss of mobility was due to any of the multiple injuries.
The guy have never been Adonis, but I do t think he's lazy in the offseason.

There are plenty of areas to nitpick on Romo, but his mobility certainly should not be one of the.

You say you don't THINK he is lazy in the offseason without producing any of the evidence that you seem so attached to. I know he plays golf, I know he goes to basketball games with a coach in a relationship that I find to be inappropriate in the fact that it could compromise objectivity regarding a player who is entering a very pivotal juncture both personally and for the franchise. I think he is still pretty effective moving inside the pocket but has really lost more than a step when he is forced to run.

so you stood next to him one day and you know all about him. You know the definition of HUBRIS?

yeah, you clearly don't or at least not how to apply it.I do know what he looks like though. Which is what I said. You are also correct he can be lazy in the offseason. Some would argue it was complacency among our core players that resulted in a team with so much talent achieving so little.

 

[tideh20heel]

The Daily Turd is called that for a reason you know. I guess you are never allowed to put on some weight; have to stay at your playing weight 365 days of the year despite injuries and anything else. You really like getting owned I take it?

Yeah love it. Call me when he wins anything doing things the way he has been. Obviously I'm not the only person this concerned as Jerry mumbled on and on about Romo being MORE involved and putting in MORE time once he got that I'll advised contract extension. Also the source on the weight isn't any publication it was the team. My point is he has never taken great care of himself and it appears his body is breaking down. You appear support a notion that conditioning and strength training play little to no role in averting these issues. You support the status quo which is fine being mediocre is acceptable to many people. Your loyalty to Romo even if it is somewhat blind is to be admired. I however wish the team had more results for the huge investment made in Tony during his tenure as quarterback.

 

[Section446]

I don't think Parcells wanted Romo to be a bus driver. He said early on that what set him apart was his fearlessness and aggressiveness. But he DID want him to further harness those skills to cut down on potential turnovers.

Romo could really have used Parcells, and more so , Sean Payton, for a few more years.

Btw, Old Bill did him disservice keeping him as the holder. People still equate that muffed special teams play somehow to him as a QB....conveniently forgetting that Romo the QB actually drove them down there for that would-be score.
Oh well, history.

You raise a good point. He went from Parcells and Payton to Wade and Garrett. He's always been a good QB, but he's never been able to get over that hump. You have to wonder, if Parcells and Payton were around a couple years longer, would he have gotten over that hump by now.

 

[Rockport]

Romo has never been elite, but when he was at his best, he was a good QB. He has some flaws that keeps him from being elite and he is past the point in his career to correct these flaws if they were correctable at all. I don't think he is as bad as some people say, but he is not as good as Jerry and some fans have made him out to be.

Romo is an elite QB. Football people know he gets a bad rap from idiot media/fans. Almost all of his gaffes have come in an attempt to bring the team back from double digit leads by the opponent. Casual fans don't get this but instead just pour hate on him. It identifies fans who understand the QB position and those who don't.