Romo's peak already passed?

[Crown Royal]

He is nowhere near his peak anymore. His footwork isn't as good in the pocket as it once was and he's slower into the pocket. I think it was a combination of rampant shotgun formations and taking a beating from all of the blitzing he faced.

Typically, young QB's look deep and if it's not there they'll take off running with the ball or force it in there. Older QB's look deep and then go into the checkdown too early. I think Romo is now the latter. He missed Dez being open, a lot, last season.

He used to be really great at finding the open receiver very quickly. Now he seems more into scanning the field. I think the gameplan against him is to blitz and switch up the coverages early on and figure out where he's likely going with the ball. Then eventually switch the coverage and blitz and bait him into a throw the defense knows is coming.

That and you can go the Dom Capers route of blitzing all of the time and knowing that Romo and Garrett will not run the ball to keep the defense honest.

YR

I think this is very true. Romo is Manning-esque in his ability to read and understand the presnap read. But on the occasion he gets it wrong or the defense disguised very well, he goes safe, whereas 3-4 years ago he slung it based on gut.

 

[Gameover]

Best days are behind him.


And they were wasted

By himself!

 

[BigStar]

It's an interesting question. If you have a choice between a supremely "physically" talented QB and a very "Football" intelligent QB, which one do you go with? Obviously, you can't have a Genius that can't get out of the way of his own two feet but somebody who may not be as physically gifted but is really smart, who do you go with?

Farve vs Garret?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think this is very true. Romo is Manning-esque in his ability to read and understand the presnap read. But on the occasion he gets it wrong or the defense disguised very well, he goes safe, whereas 3-4 years ago he slung it based on gut.

I think he's pretty good, but nowhere near Peyton's level and I think he's often overrated in this area. You can see D-Coordinators start to set him up by running the same blitz and coverages and get a feeling for where he's going to go. Then once they feel they got a read on it, they'll disguise the blitz and coverage to look like it is one way, but go the other way in order to make a play on where he's going.

I think he got a little too smart for his own good, trying to create the perfect play. Although from hearing Crayton and Holley talk, part of the issue appears to be the predictable nature of Garrett's play calling and then Romo having to do an acting job of doing something else and hoping to get the defense to change.

I thought Romo was lousy last year on deep passes. And they have really taken away one of the strengths of his game, ball handling.

The freeze draw was a pretty smart way to do things. If paired properly with the slant pass and the sluggo route, you could throw the slant against the blitz or give your then porous O-Line a little more time to block. Then if they were biting on the slant, go with a sluggo route. The problem is that you need a QB with the hand-eye coordination to do that crisply, which Romo could do.

He was also very good at ball fakes for play action. But with so much shotgun that kills play action and eliminates the freeze draw.

The guy that Romo should be trying to emulate is Drew Brees. He should be a QB that relies on his footwork to throw the ball effectively. Brees is short for a NFL QB and thus needs to be able to get back in the pocket and step up into the pocket. Instead, they tried to make Romo more like Tom Brady and have him all the way in the pocket. Brady is much taller and has a stronger arm. Their offense is also different as it relies more on drag routes which are shorter pass patterns.

I don't remove all blame from Romo. Far from it. But Garrett's handling of Romo has been weak, IMO and any success he's had is in spite of Garrett.







YR

 

[BigStar]

I said that all last year. You could really tell on his deep ball. He played very very well. Still put up amazing numbers.

Some fans are choosing to ignore those attempts that were made trying to go deep. Wudn't purdy...only part of Romo's game I feel had slipped due to age/hidden injury/cyst,etc. whatever it was, it killed his deep ball last season. DEN was one of the few games he looked like he could out the ball anywhere on the field.

 

[burmafrd]

By himself!

do you work at this or does it come naturally?

 

[burmafrd]

I think he's pretty good, but nowhere near Peyton's level and I think he's often overrated in this area. You can see D-Coordinators start to set him up by running the same blitz and coverages and get a feeling for where he's going to go. Then once they feel they got a read on it, they'll disguise the blitz and coverage to look like it is one way, but go the other way in order to make a play on where he's going.

I think he got a little too smart for his own good, trying to create the perfect play. Although from hearing Crayton and Holley talk, part of the issue appears to be the predictable nature of Garrett's play calling and then Romo having to do an acting job of doing something else and hoping to get the defense to change.

I thought Romo was lousy last year on deep passes. And they have really taken away one of the strengths of his game, ball handling.

The freeze draw was a pretty smart way to do things. If paired properly with the slant pass and the sluggo route, you could throw the slant against the blitz or give your then porous O-Line a little more time to block. Then if they were biting on the slant, go with a sluggo route. The problem is that you need a QB with the hand-eye coordination to do that crisply, which Romo could do.

He was also very good at ball fakes for play action. But with so much shotgun that kills play action and eliminates the freeze draw.

The guy that Romo should be trying to emulate is Drew Brees. He should be a QB that relies on his footwork to throw the ball effectively. Brees is short for a NFL QB and thus needs to be able to get back in the pocket and step up into the pocket. Instead, they tried to make Romo more like Tom Brady and have him all the way in the pocket. Brady is much taller and has a stronger arm. Their offense is also different as it relies more on drag routes which are shorter pass patterns.

I don't remove all blame from Romo. Far from it. But Garrett's handling of Romo has been weak, IMO and any success he's had is in spite of Garrett.







YR

actually Wade Wilson is the QB coach so realistically he has part of the blame. I always wondered why they used Brady instead of Brees. Just another one of Red Ball's brilliant decisions.

 

[Crown Royal]

I think he's pretty good, but nowhere near Peyton's level and I think he's often overrated in this area. You can see D-Coordinators start to set him up by running the same blitz and coverages and get a feeling for where he's going to go. Then once they feel they got a read on it, they'll disguise the blitz and coverage to look like it is one way, but go the other way in order to make a play on where he's going.

I think he got a little too smart for his own good, trying to create the perfect play. Although from hearing Crayton and Holley talk, part of the issue appears to be the predictable nature of Garrett's play calling and then Romo having to do an acting job of doing something else and hoping to get the defense to change.

I thought Romo was lousy last year on deep passes. And they have really taken away one of the strengths of his game, ball handling.

The freeze draw was a pretty smart way to do things. If paired properly with the slant pass and the sluggo route, you could throw the slant against the blitz or give your then porous O-Line a little more time to block. Then if they were biting on the slant, go with a sluggo route. The problem is that you need a QB with the hand-eye coordination to do that crisply, which Romo could do.

He was also very good at ball fakes for play action. But with so much shotgun that kills play action and eliminates the freeze draw.

The guy that Romo should be trying to emulate is Drew Brees. He should be a QB that relies on his footwork to throw the ball effectively. Brees is short for a NFL QB and thus needs to be able to get back in the pocket and step up into the pocket. Instead, they tried to make Romo more like Tom Brady and have him all the way in the pocket. Brady is much taller and has a stronger arm. Their offense is also different as it relies more on drag routes which are shorter pass patterns.

I don't remove all blame from Romo. Far from it. But Garrett's handling of Romo has been weak, IMO and any success he's had is in spite of Garrett.
YR

I agree with everything your are saying, except I don't think that Romo is overrated in his pre-snap. That isn't to say that I think it's great - Manning is fantastic at it and is really a regular-season wander. I don't want a team built around one guy always carrying the offense on his shoulders through pre-snap chess. Too much possibility for error that is devastating.

I also agree completely with what you are saying about Garret's use of him in the pocket. Shotgun too.

 

[Section446]

Well past his prime.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If NFL ppl saw this talent, he would've went higher in the draft. He can't make all the throws and his decision making is suspect.

You take the talent and try to teach to football intelligence side of the game. Not the other way around. Gotta have raw talent to build on.

That's fair but you assume that the person who has the intelligence has no athletic skills here. That's not the case, as was stated earlier.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Farve vs Garret?

LOL.... No.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I think Dallas fans and Jerry put our players on a higher pedestal than they deserve... He's good not great...

 

[iceberg]

I think Dallas fans and Jerry put our players on a higher pedestal than they deserve... He's good not great...

and i think some fans just rag on players to make themselves sound "smart" or "objective".

 

[burmafrd]

and i think some fans just rag on players to make themselves sound "smart" or "objective".

Some people make themselves feel bigger by trying to make players look smaller.

 

[ufcrules1]

I think this is very true. Romo is Manning-esque in his ability to read and understand the presnap read. But on the occasion he gets it wrong or the defense disguised very well, he goes safe, whereas 3-4 years ago he slung it based on gut.

Romo isn't manning-esque in ANY way.

 

[ufcrules1]

I think he's pretty good, but nowhere near Peyton's level and I think he's often overrated in this area. You can see D-Coordinators start to set him up by running the same blitz and coverages and get a feeling for where he's going to go. Then once they feel they got a read on it, they'll disguise the blitz and coverage to look like it is one way, but go the other way in order to make a play on where he's going.

I think he got a little too smart for his own good, trying to create the perfect play. Although from hearing Crayton and Holley talk, part of the issue appears to be the predictable nature of Garrett's play calling and then Romo having to do an acting job of doing something else and hoping to get the defense to change.

I thought Romo was lousy last year on deep passes. And they have really taken away one of the strengths of his game, ball handling.

The freeze draw was a pretty smart way to do things. If paired properly with the slant pass and the sluggo route, you could throw the slant against the blitz or give your then porous O-Line a little more time to block. Then if they were biting on the slant, go with a sluggo route. The problem is that you need a QB with the hand-eye coordination to do that crisply, which Romo could do.

He was also very good at ball fakes for play action. But with so much shotgun that kills play action and eliminates the freeze draw.

The guy that Romo should be trying to emulate is Drew Brees. He should be a QB that relies on his footwork to throw the ball effectively. Brees is short for a NFL QB and thus needs to be able to get back in the pocket and step up into the pocket. Instead, they tried to make Romo more like Tom Brady and have him all the way in the pocket. Brady is much taller and has a stronger arm. Their offense is also different as it relies more on drag routes which are shorter pass patterns.

I don't remove all blame from Romo. Far from it. But Garrett's handling of Romo has been weak, IMO and any success he's had is in spite of Garrett.


YR

That was a very good post Yakuza Rich. You know your stuff.

 

[jnday]

actually Wade Wilson is the QB coach so realistically he has part of the blame. I always wondered why they used Brady instead of Brees. Just another one of Red Ball's brilliant decisions.

It took away some of the better traits that Romo had when they decided to model Romo's play after Brady. Brady was one of the worst possible for Romo to imitate considering Romo's talent. They are just different types of QBs.

 

[jnday]

I think Dallas fans and Jerry put our players on a higher pedestal than they deserve... He's good not great...

Romo has never been elite, but when he was at his best, he was a good QB. He has some flaws that keeps him from being elite and he is past the point in his career to correct these flaws if they were correctable at all. I don't think he is as bad as some people say, but he is not as good as Jerry and some fans have made him out to be.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Romo has never been elite, but when he was at his best, he was a good QB. He has some flaws that keeps him from being elite and he is past the point in his career to correct these flaws if they were correctable at all. I don't think he is as bad as some people say, but he is not as good as Jerry and some fans have made him out to be.

I just wish he would have had a better coach . Such a wasted opportunity.

 

[RS12]

Romo's peak already passed?

Yep