Romo's place all-time

[BubbleScreen]

I don't feel sorry for Romo, exactly. It was his mistakes that cost us the first Giants game this year, after all. But I have continued to notice that Romo's best play comes in the 2 minute drill, and it baffles me that we never use that as a change of pace tactic when the offense seems to be sputtering.

Romo is all this team has at this point. Forget the run game Saturday. Unleash Tony and see if he can out-duel Brees. It beats running the ball and letting the defense kill us at the worst possible time.

 

[Doomsay]

It just kills me that we're wasting this guy's career when it took us this long to find a good QB. We're just wasting it.

This is the biggest tragedy - I'm not a huge Norv fan, but you could see the difference a grownup coach would have made with this offense in bigger games.

 

[Real1st]

It just kills me that we're wasting this guy's career when it took us this long to find a good QB. We're just wasting it.

Yeah, People always wanted to blame Romo for the December shortcomings but it isn't the guys fault.

 

[Doomsay]

But I have continued to notice that Romo's best play comes in the 2 minute drill, and it baffles me that we never use that as a change of pace tactic when the offense seems to be sputtering.

Romo is all this team has at this point. Forget the run game Saturday. Unleash Tony and see if he can out-duel Brees. It beats running the ball and letting the defense kill us at the worst possible time.

Agreed, give it a try - presumably everybody on the coaching staff is fighting for a job next year - got to change a losing game. If we continue to flub scoring chances, the D will really give up IMO.

 

[THUMPER]

It's meaningless compared to losing the game, but some people have noticed that Romo is playing pretty well so far this December. With today's game -- his third straight with multiple TD passes, zero interceptions and a rating above 110 -- Romo raised his career rating from 95.1 to 95.8, moving him past Phillip Rivers and Peyton Manning and into second place all-time in passer rating.

Here's the order after today's games --

1. Steve Young, 96.8
2. Tony Romo, 95.8
3. Phillip Rivers, 95.3
4. Peyton Manning, 95.1


Now, if he could only start winning in December. Or convince Garrett to call a quarterback sneak.

Adam you are right and you are wrong. Yes Romo did move back into 2nd place today but his career passer rating is 95.4, not 95.8 as you have listed above. That's still good enough to put him slightly ahead of Rivers though.

Unofficially, Aaron Rodgers is ahead of both of them with a 96.3 rating but he does not have the minimum pass attempts (1500) to make it official.

First time I have ever seen you make a mistake Adam.

 

[TD-33]

useless numbers/spin... right on cue after another december home loss.

They aren't useless turd they show that Romo isn't the problem like it or not.

 

[DIAF]

Yeah, People always wanted to blame Romo for the December shortcomings but it isn't the guys fault.

Not THIS December (so far) anyways. Doesn't change the fact he was craptacular in the previous three Decembers, though.

 

[superpunk]

He's so good.

But noone will notice until the rest of the team gets on his level.

 

[JPM]

It just kills me that we're wasting this guy's career when it took us this long to find a good QB. We're just wasting it.

You can add Witten and Ware to the list.

 

[DLCassidy]

10 points until a garbage time TD? Yeah get his bust for Canton ready.

 

[THUMPER]

10 points until a garbage time TD? Yeah get his bust for Canton ready.

Maybe they should have let him throw for the TD when we were at the 1-yardline and Barber couldn't get in. Just sayin...

 

[90'sBoys]

10 points until a garbage time TD? Yeah get his bust for Canton ready.

Exactly......But, but, but let me give you some meaningless statistics concerning his passing rating. Who ***** cares. The only stats from yesterday that mean a damn thing were third down conversions. What were his stats concerning that?

1 for 8. What was Rivers? That is what won and lost the game yesterday. Not missed field goals, or the defense. Up to that point Romo had very pedestrian numbers except for the last drive when San Diego was playing soft.

That is what is wrong with this team and what is wrong with the Dallas fandom. Everyone is all caught up in useless statistics. Who cares. That is about as credible as Wade saying we still are 8 and 5. We have beaten no-one of any consequence. Great QBs make plays when it matters. Romo had his chance when the game was tied and went three and out and we punted the ball back to San Diego and they went down and scored a TD which in effect put the game out of reach at that point.

I'll put it this way...Romo may not be the main problem, but he isn't the solution. He aint going to carry this team anywhere. He will get his stats like he has all of his career, college and pro. But he won't get you to the level we need to be. He never has. If meaningless statistics get you off then have at it.

 

[PBJTime]

Exactly......But, but, but let me give you some meaningless statistics concerning his passing rating. Who ***** cares. The only stats from yesterday that mean a damn thing were third down conversions. What were his stats concerning that?

1 for 8. What was Rivers? That is what won and lost the game yesterday. Not missed field goals, or the defense. Up to that point Romo had very pedestrian numbers except for the last drive when San Diego was playing soft.

That is what is wrong with this team and what is wrong with the Dallas fandom. Everyone is all caught up in useless statistics. Who cares. That is about as credible as Wade saying we still are 8 and 5. We have beaten no-one of any consequence. Great QBs make plays when it matters. Romo had his chance when the game was tied and went three and out and we punted the ball back to San Diego and they went down and scored a TD which in effect put the game out of reach at that point.

I'll put it this way...Romo may not be the main problem, but he isn't the solution. He aint going to carry this team anywhere. He will get his stats like he has all of his career, college and pro. But he won't get you to the level we need to be. He never has. If meaningless statistics get you off then have at it.

Stats aren't everything, but you are suggesting that a QB with one of the top QB ratings of all time is not the solution? Surely you can admit that plenty of teams have won it all with worse QB situations? It is a team game, after all.

Romo gets let down plenty by his teammates. There were 10 points that Romo "led" the team to, but his team failed him. Folk (the latest incarnation of Vandershank) and Barber both failed to complete drives. Romo is far from the problem. The fact is, he is good enough to win in this league. I never was a believer in a QB "carrying" his team on his shoulders. For every QB that "carries" his team, there are a few players that make the plays for him.

Look at Eli. Without a Tyree circus catch, nobody is talking about how "great" he is. Same with Big Ben and his defense... Do you think his 22.6 rating in Super Bowl XL helped or hurt his team? Yet he is the guy "who just finds a way to win."

No. It's a team effort, plain and simple, and Romo plays well enough for a team to win.

 

[adbutcher]

Good post Adam, thanks.

 

[jay cee]

Maybe Folk should hold and Romo should kick.

:laugh2: At this point that might be worth a shot.

 

[THUMPER]

No. It's a team effort, plain and simple, and Romo plays well enough for a team to win.

For this generation the focus is always on the individual, not the team, so it is not surprising that they cannot see how football is a TEAM sport and no matter how good one player is they rest of the TEAM can cause failure.

Romo's stats point out that he IS one of the top passers in NFL history. That means that the failure of this team is not on him folks.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Romo continues to prove that he's a really good QB. Now if the rest of the team would ever get on the same page, at the same time, for entire games this team could be something very special.

Unfortunately that never seems to happen.

 

[jay cee]

Adam you are right and you are wrong. Yes Romo did move back into 2nd place today but his career passer rating is 95.4, not 95.8 as you have listed above. That's still good enough to put him slightly ahead of Rivers though.

Unofficially, Aaron Rodgers is ahead of both of them with a 96.3 rating but he does not have the minimum pass attempts (1500) to make it official.

First time I have ever seen you make a mistake Adam.

Mistake? Adam? That would be a 1st.

 

[Future]

Its a shame Romo ended up in a team with an out of his mind owner and a gutless head coach... the cowboys would be better off with no head coach at all...

Gutless??

Yea it takes a real coward to take all of the blame of every failure a team has. The guy takes so much crap for problems that aren't his fault and people have the nerve to call him gutless. Unreal.

 

[90'sBoys]

Stats aren't everything, but you are suggesting that a QB with one of the top QB ratings of all time is not the solution? Surely you can admit that plenty of teams have won it all with worse QB situations? It is a team game, after all.

Romo gets let down plenty by his teammates. There were 10 points that Romo "led" the team to, but his team failed him. Folk (the latest incarnation of Vandershank) and Barber both failed to complete drives. Romo is far from the problem. The fact is, he is good enough to win in this league. I never was a believer in a QB "carrying" his team on his shoulders. For every QB that "carries" his team, there are a few players that make the plays for him.

Look at Eli. Without a Tyree circus catch, nobody is talking about how "great" he is. Same with Big Ben and his defense... Do you think his 22.6 rating in Super Bowl XL helped or hurt his team? Yet he is the guy "who just finds a way to win."

No. It's a team effort, plain and simple, and Romo plays well enough for a team to win.

No,....I do not think Romo has what it takes to lead this team to a serious playoff run and Super Bowl. Can you really see him traveling to Minnesota or New Orleans for a Championship Game with everything on the line and realistically playing at a level well enough to win those games. No way in hell. He may get some passing yards, he may not throw interceptions, but I can promise you he would not do enough to win those games. He never does. He never has at any level.

He can't even push them over the top to get them INTO the playoffs. He is not a leader on or off the field. Just because he is not throwing interceptions or fumbling, doesn't mean he is still not part of the problem. This is a team game. I agree. But if you look at the game yesterday the San Diego team had a much better QB who made plays when it mattered. Same with Eli when they beat the Cowboys two years ago in their playoff run. But if you want to take solace in the fact that Romo has a better statistical advantage and QB rating, then have at it. That and fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee.