Rookie James Hardy allegedly pulls gun on his father - cites mix-up

[WoodysGirl]

HARDY ALLEGEDLY PULLS GUN ON FATHER

Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 8:29 a.m.

Every team that picked a receiver in the 2008 draft is hoping to find the next Marvin Harrison.

But not in this way.

Rookie receiver James Hardy, a second-round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Sunday.

Hardy’s name has been removed from a police report regarding the incident, but other evidence pointed to Hardy pointing the gun at his father. Fort Wayne, Indiana police chief Rusty York confirmed that Hardy was the guy who allegedly pointed the gun.

But York said that the matter isn’t being pursued, because Hardy’s father wasn’t injured.

Um, guys? Anyone who has a gun pulled and pointed at him or her isn’t injured unless the trigger is pulled. But that doesn’t make it, you know, not a crime for the person to pull and point the gun.

This is another example of the biggest flaw in the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. If a player engages in bad personal conduct in a jurisdiction that isn’t inclined to arrest and prosecute him for it, then the player will likely escape scrutiny from Commissioner Roger Goodell. In contrast, if another player does the same thing in a town where the cops decide to push the thing, then the player also will face a greater chance at discipline from the league office.

Of course, the league could still decide to perform its own investigation and mete out discipline. However, we’re not aware of any situations in which the league has investigated a player for violating the Personal Conduct Policy, absent the pursuit of criminal charges.

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[CrazyCowboy]

Wow....and I was an advocate of us drafting this player......thanks Mr. Jones for not listening to me!

 

[Boyzmamacita]

A lot of folks were high on Hardy. If the Cowboys had picked him, we never would've heard the last of this. Please Felix, Rashard, Martellus, Jenkins, etc., STAY OUT OF TROUBLE!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm glad we passed on this kid.

 

[JPM]

What's the big deal, I'm always pulling a gun on my dad....

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm glad we passed on this kid.

You know, Winks. He may very well turn out to be a player, but if the 'boys had drafted him, this incident would've added yet another mark against the team and their new rep for housing the NFL's problem children.

 

[TheCount]

I thought we learned our lesson from the Benson situation? People already rushing to judgement? I guess we never learn.

 

[Wimbo]

NOT THE FIRST INCIDENT FOR HARDY

Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 9:49 a.m.
In response to the news that Bills receiver James Hardy, a second-round pick in last month’s draft, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Mother’s Day (his mom would be wise to avoid Hardy on Father’s Day), a league source has alerted us to the fact that this wasn’t the first domestic incident involving the former Indiana standout.
Two years ago, Hardy spent three nights in jail after allegedly committing battery against his girlfriend. He was charged with domestic battery and interfering with the reporting of a crime. Hardy eventually was released on bond.
When his girlfriend called 911, an operator heard the woman say that Hardy had “hit her and her baby.” The line then disconnected, apparently because Hardy had yanked the phone out of the wall.
The source described Hardy to us as a “scary dude,” and said that the reports of Hardy striking a baby scared many teams away from him.
But not the Bills.

 

[Big Dakota]

Father, father
We don't need to escalate

 

[JerryFan]

HARDY ALLEGEDLY PULLS GUN ON FATHER

Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 8:29 a.m.

Every team that picked a receiver in the 2008 draft is hoping to find the next Marvin Harrison.

But not in this way.

Rookie receiver James Hardy, a second-round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Sunday.

Hardy’s name has been removed from a police report regarding the incident, but other evidence pointed to Hardy pointing the gun at his father. Fort Wayne, Indiana police chief Rusty York confirmed that Hardy was the guy who allegedly pointed the gun.

But York said that the matter isn’t being pursued, because Hardy’s father wasn’t injured.

Um, guys? Anyone who has a gun pulled and pointed at him or her isn’t injured unless the trigger is pulled. But that doesn’t make it, you know, not a crime for the person to pull and point the gun.

This is another example of the biggest flaw in the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. If a player engages in bad personal conduct in a jurisdiction that isn’t inclined to arrest and prosecute him for it, then the player will likely escape scrutiny from Commissioner Roger Goodell. In contrast, if another player does the same thing in a town where the cops decide to push the thing, then the player also will face a greater chance at discipline from the league office.

Of course, the league could still decide to perform its own investigation and mete out discipline. However, we’re not aware of any situations in which the league has investigated a player for violating the Personal Conduct Policy, absent the pursuit of criminal charges.

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I knew the guy was an idiot. He has had off the field problems before @ IU. IU doesn't handle situation very well. Their QB just got kicked off because he had a substance abuse problem that wasn't marijuana and the coaches new last fall during the games he was using and still didn't do anything to him. If you beat up your girlfriend I surely don't want to waste a draft pick on you.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I thought we learned our lesson from the Benson situation? People already rushing to judgement? I guess we never learn.

Personally, I'm not judging. Things may very well not be as they're currently reported. But from the Cowboys standpoint, an incident like this, after trading for Pac and signing Tank, this would look very bad on the Cowboys.

And as I said, this may or may not be much ado about nothing, but I'll just say I'm glad the Bills are the ones having to run out PR spin and not the Cowboys.

 

[Wrangler87]

HARDY ALLEGEDLY PULLS GUN ON FATHER

Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 8:29 a.m.

Every team that picked a receiver in the 2008 draft is hoping to find the next Marvin Harrison.

But not in this way.

Rookie receiver James Hardy, a second-round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Sunday.

Hardy’s name has been removed from a police report regarding the incident, but other evidence pointed to Hardy pointing the gun at his father. Fort Wayne, Indiana police chief Rusty York confirmed that Hardy was the guy who allegedly pointed the gun.

But York said that the matter isn’t being pursued, because Hardy’s father wasn’t injured.

Um, guys? Anyone who has a gun pulled and pointed at him or her isn’t injured unless the trigger is pulled. But that doesn’t make it, you know, not a crime for the person to pull and point the gun.

This is another example of the biggest flaw in the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. If a player engages in bad personal conduct in a jurisdiction that isn’t inclined to arrest and prosecute him for it, then the player will likely escape scrutiny from Commissioner Roger Goodell. In contrast, if another player does the same thing in a town where the cops decide to push the thing, then the player also will face a greater chance at discipline from the league office.

Of course, the league could still decide to perform its own investigation and mete out discipline. However, we’re not aware of any situations in which the league has investigated a player for violating the Personal Conduct Policy, absent the pursuit of criminal charges.

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This falls under Domestic Violence Laws, the police have no choice but to "push the thing", as long as he was still on the scene when they arrived. He would have been arrested for Domestic Violence Menacing and taken to jail on the spot.

If he had left the scene before police arrived, then the police do a police report, forward it to a magistrate, and it will be up to the victim, the father, to sign a warrant out for the arrest of his son. That is where your problem occurs. Once cooler heads prevail, that father probably will never seek the warrant. That's probably what happened here, and his father has decided not to sign a warrant.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I knew the guy was an idiot. He has had off the field problems before @ IU. IU doesn't handle situation very well. Their QB just got kicked off because he had a substance abuse problem that wasn't marijuana and the coaches new last fall during the games he was using and still didn't do anything to him. If you beat up your girlfriend I surely don't want to waste a draft pick on you.

IDK sometimes they be asking for it. I don't advocate hitting females I don't do it myself. However, I've seen females push males beyond their limit and I have been pushed beyond my limit by females. I just do not believe the females are always as innocent as they attempt to be. They like make you mad on purpose but then when you get mad they want to be like why are you mad.

 

[TVMan]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1974032&postcount=1

Link still works.

 

[Chief]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1974032&postcount=1

Link still works.

Yep.

I posted the article about the battery charge on his girlfriend, too, but it was pretty much ignored.

 

[theogt]

You like to think people will mature and are smart enough to not risk the millions of dollars they'll earn in the league, but you just can't ever know for sure.

That said, we don't know all the facts, so here's to hoping this was an isolated incident for Hardy.

 

[onetrickpony]

Um, guys? Anyone who has a gun pulled and pointed at him or her isn’t injured unless the trigger is pulled. But that doesn’t make it, you know, not a crime for the person to pull and point the gun.

Um, yes it does if it is found to be self defense.

For all we know Hardy's dad is a crack head who was trying to steal his TV.

These isn't enough information here to judge what happened.

 

[AsthmaField]

These isn't enough information here to judge what happened.

Well, that should just about settle the whole thing.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But from the Cowboys standpoint, an incident like this, after trading for Pac and signing Tank, this would look very bad on the Cowboys.

And as I said, this may or may not be much ado about nothing, but I'll just say I'm glad the Bills are the ones having to run out PR spin and not the Cowboys.

Right on the :money:

 

[iceberg]

I thought we learned our lesson from the Benson situation? People already rushing to judgement? I guess we never learn.

some never will. they just go through life burning oxygen.