Rookie James Hardy allegedly pulls gun on his father - cites mix-up

[SilverStarCowboy]

Wow....and I was an advocate of us drafting this player......thanks Mr. Jones for not listening to me!

Oh Jerry wanted him too...so did I!


Nicely, just like Mendenhall over Felix, right now I'm happy to be wrong about Hardy over Bennett too!


:laugh1:

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

More idiocy. Evidently the man in your story possessed enough character to know that striking a woman, for whatever reason, isn't acceptable. There are ways of defending one's self other than abusing women, and that's exactly what it becomes when men choose to get physical.

Thats nice and all in your pathetic attempt at chivalry but their are no absolutes here.

If a woman is trying to hurt my children and will not back off is it abuse to strike her?

If she is wielding a weapon against you and has already stabbed you is it abuse to strike her?

of course not. Your entire ideal is based on you thinking that men are superior to women in each and every way and as such striking them is tantamount to striking children. Fact is that PEOPLE which happens to include women can do things that justify getting physical with them.

A better ethic is to say that there are better ways to defend yourself for other PEOPLE without having to abuse them unless circumstances force the issue.

 

[trueblue1687]

I heard he yelled for his mom when they made the report. :laugh2: . I couldn't resist. Maybe this thread will pull 500 posts. Me thinks this kid may have some unresolved dips**t issues to deal with.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

More idiocy. Evidently the man in your story possessed enough character to know that striking a woman, for whatever reason, isn't acceptable. There are ways of defending one's self other than abusing women, and that's exactly what it becomes when men choose to get physical.

how do you kow how Hardy was raised. Some people are raised male or females if some one put their hands on you it doesn't fly.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8098806?MSNHPHMA

FORT WAYNE, Ind. (AP) - A woman called police saying Buffalo Bills rookie wide receiver James Hardy was beating up his father and had pulled a gun when she yelled for him to stop.

The witness told officers she called out for Hardy to stop after hearing a loud noise in the back yard about 1:30 p.m. Sunday, according to a city police report.

Fort Wayne police spokesman Michael Joyner said Tuesday no charges were filed because Hardy was gone when officers arrived and Hardy's father did not want to press charges.

The police report quoted the elder Hardy as saying his son has a lot of anger toward him because he was in prison when his son was young.

Neither Hardy nor his agent, Eugene Parker, immediately responded to phone messages seeking comment.

The 6-foot-6 receiver left Indiana a year early to enter the NFL draft and was picked by the Bills in the second round last month.

 

[iceberg]

More idiocy. Evidently the man in your story possessed enough character to know that striking a woman, for whatever reason, isn't acceptable. There are ways of defending one's self other than abusing women, and that's exactly what it becomes when men choose to get physical.

excuse me pocahauntus?

sure he did. but i also think it's not in the best of moves of a woman of good size is kicking your tail for you to sit there and go "that didn't hurt".

is it abuse to fight back? no. are there times a woman can legitimally kick a mans arse? you bet. if a woman comes up to you and starts swinging then "she" dropped the "never hit a woman" defense.

in my case i'd still not hit her if i could at all help it. but it's foolish to say ONE situation works for everything. one size does NOT fit all.

and defense and fighting back is NOT the same as abuse. i don't think anyone should be abused but i'm odd like that.

now please, before going to implying my "idiocy" please think about what you're saying first.

 

[Tractor1]

Thats nice and all in your pathetic attempt at chivalry but their are no absolutes here.

Not sure what world you live in, but mine is full of absolutes.

In your post you've come up with various scenarios to justify hitting women, good for you. Tell me, what percentage of "men" who do so fit your examples? I'd venture the number to be minuscule. However, the number is legion who have no excuse other than poor character.

 

[iceberg]

Not sure what world you live in, but mine is full of absolutes.

In your post you've come up with various scenarios to justify hitting women, good for you. Tell me, what percentage of "men" who do so fit your examples? I'd venture the number to be minuscule. However, the number is legion who have no excuse other than poor character.

no one said it was A LOT did they? they just said there are times where women may not want or need that type of "protection" and for you to sit and say those times to not exist? not very realistic. you want to disagree, fine. but leave the idiot talk at the door.

 

[Tractor1]

no one said it was A LOT did they? they just said there are times where women may not want or need that type of "protection" and for you to sit and say those times to not exist? not very realistic. you want to disagree, fine. but leave the idiot talk at the door.

Sorry, your conclusion to the story related allowed no other response.

 

[iceberg]

Sorry, your conclusion to the story related allowed no other response.

for you i suppose not.

 

[the kid 05]

Not sure what world you live in, but mine is full of absolutes.

In your post you've come up with various scenarios to justify hitting women, good for you. Tell me, what percentage of "men" who do so fit your examples? I'd venture the number to be minuscule. However, the number is legion who have no excuse other than poor character.

I'm sure you can put down the Vodka and come back to reality

 

[theebs]

No kidding. I was dating a girl in college who was extremely jealous of everything and everyone. She had gotten upset because she saw me outside my physics class talking to my lab partner (who was a hottie!) and she had thrown a fit.

As I was driving home, the argument escelated and she became extremely agitated. She started screaming at the top of her lungs, slid down in the seat and started kicking my windshield over and over (trying to break it out I suppose).

Well, her window was open and a police officer waiting for speeders heard her screaming and pulled me over. He took her to the back of the car and started asking her questions.

He asked her if I had hit her. She knew damn well that I hadn't laid a figer on her (never have any woman) but she still looked up at me when he asked the question and shook her head no... but she did it in such a way as to make the cop think she was lying because she was scared of me.

I couldn't believe it. He started treating me like I was some rapist or something and I hadn't done one thing except talk to my lab partner about our project.

I was eventually let go and I very quickly let my girlfriend go too... although it took about two months of her freakin' stalking me and my dates before I was finally free of her. She attacked a girl at my job and on a different occasion pulled wads of her own hair out and told other's that it was me who did it.

A real piece of work, that girl.

Anyway, I agree... get the whole story before jumping to conclusions about any domestic violence case. $0.02

I dont know anything about hardy. But this post was well worth opening the thread.

Please tell us more about this girl. This is like the female version of that movie mark wahlberg was in ...i think it was fear but I cant remember...

anyway tell us more.

 

[dbair1967]

I'm glad we passed on this kid.

ditto

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I won't hit a *****, but I'll shaaake the **** out of her!

 

[cwboy1]

No kidding. I was dating a girl in college who was extremely jealous of everything and everyone. She had gotten upset because she saw me outside my physics class talking to my lab partner (who was a hottie!) and she had thrown a fit.

As I was driving home, the argument escelated and she became extremely agitated. She started screaming at the top of her lungs, slid down in the seat and started kicking my windshield over and over (trying to break it out I suppose).

Well, her window was open and a police officer waiting for speeders heard her screaming and pulled me over. He took her to the back of the car and started asking her questions.

He asked her if I had hit her. She knew damn well that I hadn't laid a figer on her (never have any woman) but she still looked up at me when he asked the question and shook her head no... but she did it in such a way as to make the cop think she was lying because she was scared of me.

I couldn't believe it. He started treating me like I was some rapist or something and I hadn't done one thing except talk to my lab partner about our project.

I was eventually let go and I very quickly let my girlfriend go too... although it took about two months of her freakin' stalking me and my dates before I was finally free of her. She attacked a girl at my job and on a different occasion pulled wads of her own hair out and told other's that it was me who did it.

A real piece of work, that girl.

Anyway, I agree... get the whole story before jumping to conclusions about any domestic violence case. $0.02

I think I married your ex girlfriend.....:bang2: :laugh2:

 

[AbeBeta]

Father, father
We don't need to escalate

Nobody caught that one -- props for the reference. I totally thought about Marvin when I read this too.

 

[the kid 05]

I won't hit a *****, but I'll shaaake the **** out of her!

:laugh2:

"does Wayne Brady have to smack a *#@&*$(#&@& ?"

 

[DaBoys4Life]

:laugh2:

"does Wayne Brady have to smack a *#@&*$(#&@& ?"

i thought it was choe

 

[the kid 05]

i thought it was choe

i think so to but didn't feel like only doin #()$ as it would be predictable

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Lots of people on this board were really high on this guy. I told you that he was nuts. Well known in the area since his high school days. I am really glad we didn't take him.