Rooting for Eagles or Seahawks Next Week?

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cowboys2233 said:
So yes, as of right now, you're correct. But if we're only dealing with one other team, the head to head is the first tiebreaker.
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Right now we're not dealing with one other team and I doubt we will be by the end of the season. There's several teams contending for a wildcard and as I pointed out 4 of those teams currently have better divisional records than the Cowboys. With the wheels looking like they may be starting to come off in AZ Seattle could end up winning the West which means the Cowboys would lose a head to head tiebreaker with AZ who also currently has a better record within their division.

If it came down to the Cowboys and SF they also hold a tiebreaker over the Cowboys. The Cowboys have already dug themselves a hole for a wildcard spot with 2 divisional losses and 2 losses outside their division to AZ and SF. The best chance the Cowboys have to make the playoffs is to beat Chicago and hope Seattle beats Philly giving the Cowboys an opportunity to control their own fate.
 
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KJJ said:
Right now we're not dealing with one other team and I doubt we will be by the end of the season. There's several teams contending for a wildcard and as I pointed out 4 of those teams currently have better divisional records than the Cowboys. With the wheels looking like they may be starting to come off in AZ Seattle could end up winning the West which means the Cowboys would lose a head to head tiebreaker with AZ who also currently has a better record within their division.

If it came down to the Cowboys and SF they also hold a tiebreaker over the Cowboys. The Cowboys have already dug themselves a hole for a wildcard spot with 2 divisional losses and 2 losses outside their division to AZ and SF. The best chance the Cowboys have to make the playoffs is to beat Chicago and hope Seattle beats Philly giving the Cowboys an opportunity to control their own fate.
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Right now we're not dealing with one other team? Didn't I just say that? If you want to repeat what I have already conceded to make yourself feel better, have fun. I was bringing it up because I didn't know the difference myself and if I had to take a guess, you didn't either. You just saw the current standings and playoff spots and assumed the divisional record tiebreaker applied in all cases when in fact, it doesn't. Head to head IS the first tiebreaker when it involves two teams. You didn't know that, you thought divisional records was still the first tiebreaker. Be honest.
 
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Right now we're not dealing with one other team? Didn't I just say that? If you want to repeat what I have already conceded to make yourself feel better, have fun. I was bringing it up because I didn't know the difference myself and if I had to take a guess, you didn't either. You just saw the current standings and playoff spots and assumed the divisional record tiebreaker applied in all cases when in fact, it doesn't. Head to head IS the first tiebreaker when it involves two teams. You didn't know that, you thought divisional records was still the first tiebreaker. Be honest.
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I knew what I was talking about and you didn't so get over it! If I didn't know what I was talking about I wouldn't have gotten the current wildcard teams right I don't assume or take guesses I do research. I said if the playoffs started Sunday Seattle and Detroit would be the wildcards and you disagreed on Seattle claiming the Cowboys would be a wildcard due to their head to head tiebreaker over them. I posted a link that proved you wrong. You're so confused you replied to yourself when you meant to reply to me. :facepalm: That must have been pretty funny to receive an alert from yourself. lol We're talking about the "current" playoff standings and they don't involve 2 teams with the same record so look up the facts instead of attempting to try and cover up for your mistakes.
 
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KJJ said:
I knew what I was talking about and you didn't so get over it! If I didn't know what I was talking about I wouldn't have gotten the current wildcard teams right I don't assume or take guesses I do research. I said if the playoffs started Sunday Seattle and Detroit would be the wildcards and you disagreed on Seattle claiming the Cowboys would be a wildcard due to their head to head tiebreaker over them. I posted a link that proved you wrong. You're so confused you replied to yourself when you meant to reply to me. :facepalm: That must have been pretty funny to receive an alert from yourself. lol We're talking about the "current" playoff standings and they don't involve 2 teams with the same record so look up the facts instead of attempting to try and cover up for your mistakes.
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Oh, never mind, I'm dealing with a 12-year old. I had every intention of replying to my previous post because it was a follow-up to what I said. Could I have edited my previous post and put an update there, with a little "Edit" signifying that I had added something? Well sure, but I thought this was basically doing the same thing, sorry I blew your mind like that. LOL. And no, you didn't know what you were talking about -- you thought that the division-record tiebreaker was the first tiebreaker in all cases, when it isn't. So you were wrong. I was wrong too but at least I was man enough to admit that I didn't know the difference between the two-team and three-team tiebreaker rules. But given that you're 12 years old, expecting you to be man enough for anything is probably asking too much.
 
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I've been curious about this, and my suspicions were confirmed. According to FiveThirtyEight's interactive Week 14 playoff implication chart, it's better for the Cowboys' playoff chances if the Eagles beat the Seahawks (an Eagles win improves our chances by about 5%, and a Seahawks win decreases our chances by about 5%). Of course, this is because their model has the Wild Card as the far more likely route for the Cowboys to make the playoffs. FiveThirtyEight has us at just 12% to win the division, but 49% to make the playoffs overall. Our chances of winning the division do go up by 6% if Seattle wins and down by 5% (to a paltry 7%) if the Eagles win.

Not surprisingly, the Cowboys/Bears game has a huge swing on our overall playoff chances, +12% if we win, -20% if we lose.

They also added a cool interactive tool that lets you pick the Cowboys (or any team), and you get a chart showing which teams you should root for this weekend for the Cowboys to increase their playoff chances. Apparently, the result we should be rooting for the most is Tampa over Detroit (at +8%), which makes sense. After that, we should want Philly over Seattle (+4.6%), then Oakland over SF (yeah right, +4.3%).

This all kinda geeky and no doubt an inexact science, but I have fun with it. Feel free to check it out: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-week-14-playoff-implications-the-chargers-have-a-pulse/
 
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NeonDeion21 said:
Dallas likely has a better chance of making the playoffs at 10-6 then at 11-5, as weird as that sounds. Go to Yahoo's Playoff Machine and you will see what I mean. A loss at Chicago does not end the season at all.
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At some point you actually have to beat somebody....................in other words, if the team cant even beat the sorry arse Bears one week after being humiliated at home on Thanksgiving.............is this really a playoff caliber team?
 
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DallasJ7 said:
I've been curious about this, and my suspicions were confirmed. According to FiveThirtyEight's interactive Week 14 playoff implication chart, it's better for the Cowboys' playoff chances if the Eagles beat the Seahawks (an Eagles win improves our chances by about 5%, and a Seahawks win decreases our chances by about 5%). Of course, this is because their model has the Wild Card as the far more likely route for the Cowboys to make the playoffs. FiveThirtyEight has us at just 12% to win the division, but 49% to make the playoffs overall. Our chances of winning the division do go up by 6% if Seattle wins and down by 5% (to a paltry 7%) if the Eagles win.

Not surprisingly, the Cowboys/Bears game has a huge swing on our overall playoff chances, +12% if we win, -20% if we lose.

They also added a cool interactive tool that lets you pick the Cowboys (or any team), and you get a chart showing which teams you should root for this weekend for the Cowboys to increase their playoff chances. Apparently, the result we should be rooting for the most is Tampa over Detroit (at +8%), which makes sense. After that, we should want Philly over Seattle (+4.6%), then Oakland over SF (yeah right, +4.3%).

This all kinda geeky and no doubt an inexact science, but I have fun with it. Feel free to check it out: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-week-14-playoff-implications-the-chargers-have-a-pulse/
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Oakland beating Seattle would be a Christmas miracle. Tis the season! But I will tell you this, there is going to be one or more shocking outcomes in the weeks to come that is going to dramatically change the playoff landscape. Maybe a Detroit losing to a Buccaneers team, maybe a 49ers team losing to the Raiders, or the Hawks losing to...never mind, all of their remaining games are tough. LOL. I just hope we're not the ones that get shocked.
 
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Root for the hawks. Both because i like them, dislike the eagles...and also go for the division.
 
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CowboysFanSince88 said:
well if we lose tomorrow you and me both will be rooting for the eagles on sunday
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After we beat Chicago tomorrow, Sunday will be fun. We can relax and watch the Seahawks Philthy game knowing we either have a jump on the wildcard or back in a divisional tie
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sunday would be fun if that happens..
 
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cowboys2233 said:
Oh, never mind, I'm dealing with a 12-year old. I had every intention of replying to my previous post because it was a follow-up to what I said. Could I have edited my previous post and put an update there, with a little "Edit" signifying that I had added something? Well sure, but I thought this was basically doing the same thing, sorry I blew your mind like that. LOL. And no, you didn't know what you were talking about -- you thought that the division-record tiebreaker was the first tiebreaker in all cases, when it isn't. So you were wrong. I was wrong too but at least I was man enough to admit that I didn't know the difference between the two-team and three-team tiebreaker rules. But given that you're 12 years old, expecting you to be man enough for anything is probably asking too much.
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That's the first time I've seen someone reply to their own post. If you wanted to follow up what you said and wanted me to read it all you had to do was address the post to me and include your previous post so I would get an alert. You've been a member on this board since 2008 you should know how to navigate through a discussion by now. Show me a post in this thread where I thought that a teams record within their own division was the first tiebreaker in all cases? After you first responded to me I told you the Seahawks and Lions would be the wildcards if the playoffs started Sunday. You responded back saying "Don't forget, we have the tiebreaker against Seattle (head to head is actually the first tiebreaker) and that Seattle would be sitting at home if the playoffs started on Sunday." You were wrong! I repeated what I told you and you kept arguing so I provided a link that proved you wrong.

The tiebreakers are confusing for everyone there's things I know now that I wasn't aware of 2 weeks ago. I've known since Sunday that if the playoffs started the following week the Cowboys would be sitting home and I have at least one post on the board prior to our discussion to prove it. I've known for several days that the rules are different if 3 or more teams are tied with the same record. Dude, we all make mistakes just owe them and move on. I usually catch my mistakes before others do and post a correction. If someone catches a mistake I don't respond back with an insult and try to skirt around it. Sorry if you got offended but you have to make sure that when you hit the submit button you got your facts straight or someone else may slam you with another link proving you wrong again.
 
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