Ross Tucker article on Jerry

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Tucker says: "People want him to hire a "football" guy and I know what they think that means but if you've been a general manager and running the show for 25 years don't you become a "football" guy? So a guy in his mid to late 30s who's been a scout and been in the NFL for 10-15 years is much more qualified to run an organization than Jerry Jones is at this point? I don't think so."

Here's where I think he's wrong. That guy in his mid to late 30s who's been a scout and been in the NFL 10-15 years has been around the game from the bottom up. He's met and (hopefully) learned from lots of other football guys who knew more than he did, and he absorbed it, saw the results in (presumably) a number of organizations and learned from the mistakes of others (in addition to his own).

Jerry started at the top. Whatever he's learned, he's learned as the top guy -- not as the bottom-rung grunt who has to work his way up to succeed. Jerry may know a lot of owners, but are they the "football" guys he can learn from. And his experience is solely with the Cowboys -- a team the only HE has had control over. In short, Jerry's experience may be long in years, but it's thin and limited to football life at the top. And the results seem to show that kind of shallow experience isn't good enough.
 
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I don't drive a new vehicle, I have a 2005 chrysler 300c I bought from a guy that played for the Jaguars about 5 years ago and it is in really really good condition still. I only drive it on the weekends or when me and mama are going out for something with eachother or our kids. It still hasn't gone over 90k on the mileage and drives like a dream on our trips to Cali, about a year ago mama went driving with our daughter and somehow my car, (everytime I see the commercial with the giant baby/car I tear up my car is my baby) somehow my car ended up a good 15 feet up an embankment in the desert by my house. Mama and our daughter were fine but my car was totaled, luckily the football player I bought it from put so much in it they couldn;t afford to total it and rebuilt it and it is actually better than before. Point being mama took full responsibility and you know what????? I DID NOT GIVE A **** SHE WRECKED MY FREAKING CAR! Once I knew she was ok I had a tantrum like never before. So hearing Jerry takes responsibility for being a crappy GM doesn't absolve him of being a crappy GM and just like she is not allowed to drive my car any longer Jerry should have the keys taken from him too. He can sit on the passenger side and just look good like mama.
 
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Jerry bought his way into a position of power. Just because Jerry owns up to some of the dumb moves he has made as General Manager, does not make it any more palatable.

I was listening to an interview with Parcells on the radio today and he was asked what he thought of Jerry Jones (among other things). Basically Parcells said he had a very positive experience working with Jerry, and that Jerry was very passionate about winning. He also said that the biggest problem with Jerry, was that he listened to too many outside sources. This would be OK if he was talking to somebody that actually knew what they were talking about, but could be a big problem if the person that Jerry was "listening" to wasn't that knowledgable (sound familiar?).

Jerry is a jack of all trades, but master of none when it comes to being a GM...just my 2 cents. We need a full time GM and capologist to truly be competitive in todays NFL.

As a long time Cowboy fan I think we are doomed to mediocrity unless things change at the top.
 
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MissionCoach said:
Jerry bought his way into a position of power. Just because Jerry owns up to some of the dumb moves he has made as General Manager, does not make it any more palatable.

I was listening to an interview with Parcells on the radio today and he was asked what he thought of Jerry Jones (among other things). Basically Parcells said he had a very positive experience working with Jerry, and that Jerry was very passionate about winning. He also said that the biggest problem with Jerry, was that he listened to too many outside sources. This would be OK if he was talking to somebody that actually knew what they were talking about, but could be a big problem if the person that Jerry was "listening" to wasn't that knowledgable (sound familiar?).

Jerry is a jack of all trades, but master of none when it comes to being a GM...just my 2 cents. We need a full time GM and capologist to truly be competitive in todays NFL.

As a long time Cowboy fan I think we are doomed to mediocrity unless things change at the top.
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You mean guys like Larry Lacewell and Barry Switzer
 
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So this guy wants me to believe that Jerry Jones is more of a football guy than some scout they'd bring in to be the new GM because he's been doing it a long time and then lists mistakes Jerry made just last offseason?

So after 25 years he's still jumping the gun and making the same dumb mistakes he made two decades ago?

This guy is a moron and I've no doubt that Jerry will have this article taped to the desk in his office.

We've been "chill" long enough. We've given Jerry more time than he deserves. Any other GM woulda been fired a decade ago.
 
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slomoxn said:
I don't drive a new vehicle, I have a 2005 chrysler 300c I bought from a guy that played for the Jaguars about 5 years ago and it is in really really good condition still. I only drive it on the weekends or when me and mama are going out for something with eachother or our kids. It still hasn't gone over 90k on the mileage and drives like a dream on our trips to Cali, about a year ago mama went driving with our daughter and somehow my car, (everytime I see the commercial with the giant baby/car I tear up my car is my baby) somehow my car ended up a good 15 feet up an embankment in the desert by my house. Mama and our daughter were fine but my car was totaled, luckily the football player I bought it from put so much in it they couldn;t afford to total it and rebuilt it and it is actually better than before. Point being mama took full responsibility and you know what????? I DID NOT GIVE A **** SHE WRECKED MY FREAKING CAR! Once I knew she was ok I had a tantrum like never before. So hearing Jerry takes responsibility for being a crappy GM doesn't absolve him of being a crappy GM and just like she is not allowed to drive my car any longer Jerry should have the keys taken from him too. He can sit on the passenger side and just look good like mama.
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If you wreck it does it mean you cannot drive either?
 
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Sounds like someone who has seen the gravy train and wants to hop on board

No shortage of yes men if you have money and have a reputation of rewarding nonperformance and mediocrity
 
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FuzzyLumpkins said:
If you wreck it does it mean you cannot drive either?
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Nope it sure doesn't, see it is all in how you perceive it. The vehicle means a lot more to me than it does someone else therefore I treat it different than someone else would. In this case it had to be driven in a manner that was not conducive to it staying on the road and if you knew where it was in relation to how they needed to get home you'd wonder what they were doing down a back street where parents usually take our kids to learn to drive, in Jerry's case yes it is his team but he has clearly shown that he does not know how to handle the wheel.
 
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slomoxn said:
Nope it sure doesn't, see it is all in how you perceive it. The vehicle means a lot more to me than it does someone else therefore I treat it different than someone else would. In this case it had to be driven in a manner that was not conducive to it staying on the road and if you knew where it was in relation to how they needed to get home you'd wonder what they were doing down a back street where parents usually take our kids to learn to drive, in Jerry's case yes it is his team but he has clearly shown that he does not know how to handle the wheel.
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