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I like these guys and have always liked their analysis. Not saying they are right all the time. The don't even take themselves too seriously and do it knowing its hard to quantify but an interesting read. I actually was more interested in where they had others team's GMs and not Jerry. We all know thoughts run pretty the same...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3

27. Jerry Jones - Cowboys
Jerry Jones is a clown. We’ve known this since he first bought the Cowboys in 1989. It becomes more apparent every time he opens his mouth. But there was a time when Jones was actually underrated as a general manager. That ship has sailed. Increasingly aware of his own mortality, Jones has become increasingly desperate to return the Cowboys to playoff glory. It’s resulted in the league’s most over-leveraged roster, not to mention its most nonsensical power structure. Jason Garrett has a very high tolerance for ambiguity.” ‘Ol Jer meant this as a compliment. In reality, it’s a more damning indictment of his managerial style than I could ever hope to write. No one wants to win more than Jerry Jones. This, I actually believe. But no one has less of an idea of how to do so in the 21st Century. Jones is too meddlesome with his coaching staff, too loyal to his own players and just too damn ill-considered with everything. He’s patient when he should be rash (Jason Garrett), and rash when he should be patient (his recent approach to Day 1 of the draft). No one in the history of the league has handed out more ludicrous in-house contract extensions. Jones is a giant of the game, but he’s gone from winner to laughingstock.
 

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Seems like a pretty fair analysis, especially:

I think it's pretty fair, too. I obviously disagree that it's a mistake to be patient with Jason, but the point that he's rash when he should be patient and patient when he should take action is a pretty good one. See the Ratliff extension v. our Safety signings the last 3-4 years as exhibit A. The meddling in play calling and what I think was the meddling in the DC job the last two seasons are also pretty good examples of being rash when he could have sat tight.
 

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I like these guys and have always liked their analysis. Not saying they are right all the time. The don't even take themselves too seriously and do it knowing its hard to quantify but an interesting read. I actually was more interested in where they had others team's GMs and not Jerry. We all know thoughts run pretty the same...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3

I would just rank them by some formula of their win percentage. If you rank Jerry for the time period after Jimmy was here, then 27th would probably be about right.
 

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I like these guys and have always liked their analysis. Not saying they are right all the time. The don't even take themselves too seriously and do it knowing its hard to quantify but an interesting read. I actually was more interested in where they had others team's GMs and not Jerry. We all know thoughts run pretty the same...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3

bologna. this is bogus. Jerry can't be the 27th best GM. he is the worst, so his ranking should be 32nd. I don't buy into this ranking :)
 

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I would just rank them by some formula of their win percentage. If you rank Jerry for the time period after Jimmy was here, then 27th would probably be about right.

Pretty sure the team is above .500 since Jimmy got canned so that can't be true.
 

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This guy just sounds like a Jerry hater. Clearly, Jerry is a top 5 GM.

True. Plus you have to factor in that he works for an owner who has lost it. His owner clearly overrides him and that is how we get the poor decisions.
 

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How many GM's have held the same position for 20 years?

Who cares? Does that automatically make him the worst GM in the NFL? The team's record is around .500 since he's been in control so why should he be ranked 32nd?
 

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Thats just putting him low for the sake of putting him low when you rank GM's that have only made a couple drafts or they aint made the playoffs anymore than the Cowboys in the last 10 years. What have the Titans done that would make me think they have a better GM? It was just a few years ago the Cowboys sent 11 players to the pro bowl in one season and thats happened twice since he bought the team. The mans made some crappy deals but most of the GM's on that list will NEVER put together a team that good.
 

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Thats just putting him low for the sake of putting him low when you rank GM's that have only made a couple drafts or they aint made the playoffs anymore than the Cowboys in the last 10 years. What have the Titans done that would make me think they have a better GM? It was just a few years ago the Cowboys sent 11 players to the pro bowl in one season and thats happened twice since he bought the team. The mans made some crappy deals but most of the GM's on that list will NEVER put together a team that good.

I'm willing to listen to reason. Where is he on your list of 1-32?
 

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I would just rank them by some formula of their win percentage. If you rank Jerry for the time period after Jimmy was here, then 27th would probably be about right.

Longevity and law of large numbers kinda make win % kind of hard. Ranking coaches, Jimmy would have looked bad in first 3 years.

Probably be fair to rank with GMs with over 5-7 years experience.

It would also be interesting to see the Win per cash outlay or cap. Example only, if one GM won an average of 8-9 games per year with a roster around $100M and another won 8-9 with a roster around $200M, I think it would be safe to say GM#1 is superior at delivering a better ROI on wins.

Gms are much smarter when paired with an elite QB (read Pioli)
 

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Increasingly aware of his own mortality, Jones has become increasingly desperate to return the Cowboys to playoff glory.
This echos that Texas Monthly article on him a dozen years ago.

His drunken assertion to Jimmy Johnson that 500 coaches could win the Cowboys a Super Bowl back in 1994 would have been long forgotten - ancient history. EXCEPT he has attempted to prove he can win a championship essentially on his expertise alone ever since. It's become an increasingly bad comedy. He is the only person on the planet that's not aware he's not NFL GM material.
 

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I'm willing to listen to reason. Where is he on your list of 1-32?

If the Cowboys are gonna be written about as "mediocre" then you have to say JJ is in the middle of the pack too not at the bottom. If they made the list in 09 where would he have ranked or even between 03-09? Parcells was a good hire for the team at that time and they accumulated some talent and won allota games. Didn't win enough or keep it going but it wasn't all crap.
 
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