RotoWorld Ranks GMs

[TwoDeep3]

I like these guys and have always liked their analysis. Not saying they are right all the time. The don't even take themselves too seriously and do it knowing its hard to quantify but an interesting read. I actually was more interested in where they had others team's GMs and not Jerry. We all know thoughts run pretty the same...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3

Then the question that begs is how in the Hell did he make it as high as 27?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Thats just putting him low for the sake of putting him low when you rank GM's that have only made a couple drafts or they aint made the playoffs anymore than the Cowboys in the last 10 years. What have the Titans done that would make me think they have a better GM? It was just a few years ago the Cowboys sent 11 players to the pro bowl in one season and thats happened twice since he bought the team. The mans made some crappy deals but most of the GM's on that list will NEVER put together a team that good.

You may make excuses as you like. Saying his standard 8-8 record means he is middle of the pack doesn't consider the many, many things he has done to show he is unqualified.

Your qualifier that they sent eleven players to the pro bowl ignores a HUGE fact.

One was under the building expertise of Jimmy Johnson, and the other was a team assembled by Bill Parcels.

I can hang around astronauts and still never qualify to go into space.

 

[TheCount]

Who cares? Does that automatically make him the worst GM in the NFL? The team's record is around .500 since he's been in control so why should he be ranked 32nd?

He's not the worst. He's the 5th worst.

You're arguing a comment Risen made to indicate his dislike for Jones' GM skills, not that he should literally be 32nd.

 

[9darter]

If the Cowboys are gonna be written about as "mediocre" then you have to say JJ is in the middle of the pack too not at the bottom.

So Jerry could get job offers as a GM in this league?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

He's 5 spots too high on the list.

Nail on the head thingy.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Who cares? Does that automatically make him the worst GM in the NFL? The team's record is around .500 since he's been in control so why should he be ranked 32nd?

Because that record sucks?

 

[OhSnap]

You may make excuses as you like. Saying his standard 8-8 record means he is middle of the pack doesn't consider the many, many things he has done to show he is unqualified.

Your qualifier that they sent eleven players to the pro bowl ignores a HUGE fact.

One was under the building expertise of Jimmy Johnson, and the other was a team assembled by Bill Parcels.

I can hang around astronauts and still never qualify to go into space.

So because he hired Bill Parcells he's still a bad GM? Most GM's get some points for hiring good coaches, even tho BP was past his prime it was still a good hire by the GM of the Cowboys. Bill had input but didn't build that team.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Since they had a site like this on Matt Millen, it does not suprize me to find this > http://officialfirejerry.com/

 

[OhSnap]

So Jerry could get job offers as a GM in this league?

Has nothing to do with ranking guys that have done less higher than him but I guess if theres a team that was lookin for a middle of the pack GM that could build a .500 team thats not afraid of a microphone he might could. What do you think?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Hey, he's not last!

 

[Nav22]

Because that record sucks?

It's average. We've been an average team so it's only fair to rank Jerry as an average GM.

So sad how many people can't grasp elementary logic.

 

[Nav22]

You may make excuses as you like. Saying his standard 8-8 record means he is middle of the pack doesn't consider the many, many things he has done to show he is unqualified.

Your qualifier that they sent eleven players to the pro bowl ignores a HUGE fact.

One was under the building expertise of Jimmy Johnson, and the other was a team assembled by Bill Parcels.

I can hang around astronauts and still never qualify to go into space.

So when is it even possible for Jerry to get any credit? By your logic, it can't ever happen.

He gets no credit for the Jimmy years, even though Jerry hired Jimmy and allowed Jimmy to do his thing.

He gets no credit for the Super Bowl we won with Switzer.

He gets no credit for the success that came before AND AFTER the Parcells era, even though he's the one who lured Parcells out of retirement.

And if Garrett were to eventually succeed, I have zero doubt that Jerry STILL won't get any credit. They'll say it was Garrett and his "right kind of guy" approach that got the job done.

Oh, but the Gailey and Campo years? That was ALLLLL Jerry and Jerry should ONLY be judged off of those failed regimes! Right?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

When is reality going to sink in that Jerry Jones is a terrible GM, how about after another 18 Seasons?

Someone needs to find good reason to convince our mediocre Owner to hire a decent GM because obviously two decades of Al Davis/Raiders like football just isn't enough.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I heard the argument today that he is at least middle of the pack because he hasn't had a losing record in 3 seasons.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Jerry bought his job. No team would hire him as their GM. Geez.

 

[Miller]

So when is it even possible for Jerry to get any credit? By your logic, it can't ever happen.

He gets no credit for the Jimmy years, even though Jerry hired Jimmy and allowed Jimmy to do his thing.

He gets no credit for the Super Bowl we won with Switzer.

He gets no credit for the success that came before AND AFTER the Parcells era, even though he's the one who lured Parcells out of retirement.

And if Garrett were to eventually succeed, I have zero doubt that Jerry STILL won't get any credit. They'll say it was Garrett and his "right kind of guy" approach that got the job done.

Oh, but the Gailey and Campo years? That was ALLLLL Jerry and Jerry should ONLY be judged off of those failed regimes! Right?

I think you are being a little extreme here. First of all Jerry gets plenty of credit for hiring Jimmy and the early years. He wasn't GM but he should get credit. In fact it is one of the most frustrating things about Jerry...that he gave someone control, was a strong owner and was on magazines everywhere but he refuses to go that route again. He gets no credit for Switzer because Switzer took Jimmy's team for a test drive. The ranking is GMs right now! The Jerry who gets credit left he building long ago. He is getting worse, not better. I don't think a moment of clarity with Parcells takes away what has happened the last 15 years when you look at drafts, contracts, etc. I'd give him plenty of credit if he just got out of his own way.

 

[xwalker]

Longevity and law of large numbers kinda make win % kind of hard. Ranking coaches, Jimmy would have looked bad in first 3 years.

Probably be fair to rank with GMs with over 5-7 years experience.

It would also be interesting to see the Win per cash outlay or cap. Example only, if one GM won an average of 8-9 games per year with a roster around $100M and another won 8-9 with a roster around $200M, I think it would be safe to say GM#1 is superior at delivering a better ROI on wins.

Gms are much smarter when paired with an elite QB (read Pioli)

If a GM has been on the job 5 years then it's his fault iif they don't have the correct QB.

As a fan I don't care about costs per win. If they win the most then they're spending correctly in my book.

 

[Nova]

Why is GB's Ted Thompson 3rd? Because he found Aaron Rodgers is pretty much the only reason they give.

That team isn't very good sans Rodgers.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

So when is it even possible for Jerry to get any credit? By your logic, it can't ever happen.

He gets no credit for the Jimmy years, even though Jerry hired Jimmy and allowed Jimmy to do his thing.

He gets no credit for the Super Bowl we won with Switzer.

He gets no credit for the success that came before AND AFTER the Parcells era, even though he's the one who lured Parcells out of retirement.

And if Garrett were to eventually succeed, I have zero doubt that Jerry STILL won't get any credit. They'll say it was Garrett and his "right kind of guy" approach that got the job done.

Oh, but the Gailey and Campo years? That was ALLLLL Jerry and Jerry should ONLY be judged off of those failed regimes! Right?

Let's just assume that Robert Kraft, Paul Allen, and Dan Rooney would be no better if they attempted what Jerry has done.

They are held in higher regard because they only do what they are good at and delegate to people in the areas they are not as good at.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Let's just assume that Robert Kraft, Paul Allen, and Dan Rooney would be no better if they attempted what Jerry has done.

They are held in higher regard because they only do what they are good at and delegate to people in the areas they are not as good at.

And thats why they are considered good owners. And its why the nonsense posted around here about Jerry being a great owner BUT lousy GM are ridiculous. Good owners hire good people to do a good job.