Roy needs to drop 20 pounds...

bbailey423;1224194 said:
WAKE UP PEOPLE....we CANNOT get to the QB...plain and simple. WE CANNOT get to the QB. Get it through your head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bang2:

and yet people still insist a better FS will somehow magically offset that

there is PLENTY of talent to play good, solid defense and get after other teams QB's

we dont play that way because of two people...until those two are gone (read- Zimmer & Parcells) this is the kind of garbage we will see every yr

David
 
superpunk;1224184 said:
It's been there since the preseason. And we've done nothing to change, so.....

That's how the Commanders continued to stay in the game...

We have big linebackers that aren't that fast... it is obvious that any smart offensive coach would attack the outside... We didn't adjust at all...
 
funny that the first people who attack roy are the ame people screaming He's the best S in the league when we win and he has a great hit et et, listen, we got out coached, out played tonight, the question that eveyone wants to know is, Can Romo respond from a bad game, well Saturday night will answer that.... quick ripping on Roy when we all know that Keith Davis is the worst S STARTING right now PERIOD
 
only time Roy should ever play deep safety is when we are up 30 points because your just asking for him to be exposed any other way. this has probably been Roy most incosistent year as he has had as many bad games as he has had good games.
 
McCordsville Cowboy;1224047 said:
Can turn his hips for @#$*.... Sure a sold hit is a highlight once every five games but OU roy didnt weigh 240. Still my favorite player but man, I am tired of the same old story with him. Love the shots but would trade them all for just being quicker in the hips..

I don't know what Roy weighs tonight but losing 20lbs probably wouldn't hurt his explosiveness when making takles. Now with that being said I'm not so sure if that will solve his problems in coverage but the R.W. that played tonight doesn't need to be in ANY kind of deep coverage.

EVER
 
superpunk;1224109 said:
God forbid he bite on a freaking double fake and fall a little behind a crazy fast receiver when the front seven couldn't get near the QB.

I swear half the people on this site watch no other football, or lose the capacity for rational thought after losses.


Let's see what Parcells has to say about Roy's play this week. I'm not a fly-off-the-handle type guy, but let's get real.

Roy sucked tonight - all night long - and sucked consistently.
 
what complements the problem, is we continue to play a cover 2... we are so worried about the deep threat, that we continue to allow teams to pick of decent chunks of yardage on dinks and dunks... this also allows teams to eat up the clock....

NO had a full back who never scored a TD, score 3 TDs... that is horrible coaching...


I want to see Roy WIlliams LET LOOSE... This guy, and Ware, are not being used to their full advantage, that it is depressing... we could have a crushing attack style defense, but we're playing like cowards, afraid of a big play here and there...
 
McCordsville Cowboy;1224047 said:
Can turn his hips for @#$*.... Sure a sold hit is a highlight once every five games but OU roy didnt weigh 240. Still my favorite player but man, I am tired of the same old story with him. Love the shots but would trade them all for just being quicker in the hips..
ha ha only 20?
 
McCordsville Cowboy;1224047 said:
: Roy needs to drop 20 pounds... Reply to Thread
he needs some lessons on how to cover and tackle.

and maybe get that pop-tart singer chick back who dumped him and took his mojo with her.
 
he never turns the right way...he sucks as a defender, i would trade him after the year is out for a 1st round pick and get a real SS in here...i dont care how much he can tackle...he gives up way more than we can handle
 
khiladi;1224190 said:
This defense is poorly coached IMO...

NO ran basic screens and dump offs, just running mis-direction... we didn't adjust at all..


For sure....what team above a high-school level couldn't come in and run those same plays.


Westbrook will be in town in two weeks.....they love to get him the ball. That should be fun.
 
:shoot3: Solution is have a new weight that roy has to meet. Simple as that.

Becasue with at least 20 pounds of jersey, pads, helmet, cleats.. He 260 out there. ANd funny how the entire secondary strayed away from Bush feeling a highlight about to hapen and :splat: It did..

..:mchammer: Reggie happened.... Im disgusted with this team heart , lack of intensisty, but the UP<MOST deal is BILLY C. I am coming for you boy!!!#@@!! Brtter watch out . Pull off that onside again and I might have to

:shoot3:

Oh yeah and to T.O !!!!!!! My :popcorn: is still ready and you better warm it with extra butter this saturday or else I am going to teabag your jersey..
 
dbair1967;1224221 said:
and yet people still insist a better FS will somehow magically offset that

there is PLENTY of talent to play good, solid defense and get after other teams QB's

we dont play that way because of two people...until those two are gone (read- Zimmer & Parcells) this is the kind of garbage we will see every yr

David

I don't think we do have the talent. Canty is a 4-3 DT at best. Spears is JAG. LB's couldn't cover in the flat if you put a gun to their heads. Safeties are abominable outside of run support. Etc.
 
bbgun;1224368 said:
I don't think we do have the talent. Canty is a 4-3 DT at best. Spears is JAG. LB's couldn't cover in the flat if you put a gun to their heads. Safeties are abominable outside of run support. Etc.

we have alot better talent on defense than New Orleans has

look at the difference in the results tonight

David
 
Funny, Ive been around since the old silver star board, red thousands of response's been through the worst Campo days......... better yet around the old Laundry days, listen I'm 34 years old and really am sicken by OUR own board members, I'm sick of the Homer Trolls, every thing that goes wrong you criticize it, put your 2 cents in and start an infected thread that other Trolls love to post on their boards titled "Cowboyz Fans drop off bridge!" or better yet "Reality sets in to idiotic cowboy fans!" any way , I'm sick of it.. I've been around this board and it's postings for quite some years and tonights preformance and the responses from the Homor Trolls realy makes me sick, and it justify's why I'm just a reader not a poster....
to blame roy on this is sicken, blame everyone, plane and simple, we were out coached, outplayed .... we really need to figure out how to respond to this *** kicking.........
 
Ware is fine...
Akin is a beast...
Bradie plays too high sometimes and isnt really that fast
Ferg is the man in the mid
Spears underachieving
Canty underachieving
Davis leave him on ST
Roy loose 20 and drive on the ball when in its the air
T-New Please dont get hurt
A-Henry Would it hurt to turn your head every once in a while????

Oh yeah... And Carp Hit the weightroom man and watch some bravheart. No intensity and you ALMOST got Brees today. Maybe instead of watching Laura Quinn Hawk's Rump, you can get some gym time. Forget the ranch for offeseason. Go back to THE OHIO STATE and pump with Laurinitis...
 
superpunk;1224132 said:
Roy plays safety.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!

So why is he biting on a freaking double fake!

DON'T GET BEAT DEEP! Never get beat deep, Especially if you are the SAFETY! Does that last word mean anything. Why do you think they've called it SAFETY?

And I'm sure if research your Smithsonian of a football mind you may remember that.

I think that you just made an argument for yourself.

And just like superman you blow a lot of wind.
 
Yep ..... Your right. Tired of defending ROY trade him for Polamalu and draft Landry from LSU or wait for the real studs that are frosh a soph.. Myron Rolle and Kenny Phillips from the U
 
cowboyfan4life;1224401 said:
Funny, Ive been around since the old silver star board, red thousands of response's been through the worst Campo days......... better yet around the old Laundry days, listen I'm 34 years old and really am sicken by OUR own board members, I'm sick of the Homer Trolls, every thing that goes wrong you criticize it, put your 2 cents in and start an infected thread that other Trolls love to post on their boards titled "Cowboyz Fans drop off bridge!" or better yet "Reality sets in to idiotic cowboy fans!" any way , I'm sick of it.. I've been around this board and it's postings for quite some years and tonights preformance and the responses from the Homor Trolls realy makes me sick, and it justify's why I'm just a reader not a poster....
to blame roy on this is sicken, blame everyone, plane and simple, we were out coached, outplayed .... we really need to figure out how to respond to this *** kicking.........


As someone who has ripped on Roy pretty good tonight allow me to say that, yes, the whole team stunk tonight. I agree with everything you said. But there is also no denying that Roy was the SS on at LEAST 3 TD's where he should easily have been able to tackle the guy and DIDN'T. He didn't because he was either out of position, took bad angles, or had bad form. He didn't single-handedly lose the game for us tonight (42 minus 21 leaves 21 and we only scored 17 - and should have scored only 10 really) but his play tonight was, quite matter-of-factly, not worth defending.

Let me add that Drew Brees tonight became the ONLY player in HISTORY to ever throw 5 TD's against Dallas in Texas Stadium. That doesn't happen without piss-poor play from the secondary.
 
big dog cowboy;1224082 said:
How about he put on a few and play LB?

J/K but you can't put Roy in a position to be the last line of defense on a play like that. You are asking him to do more than he is capable of.

i agree !! i say we feed him that " one biscuit" and play him at LB next year!!
 

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