Roy Williams gets upset with Matt Mosley

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A team leader can't be a freaking baby like this. Period.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1154656 said:
1. We don't know if it was abrasive or not. Don't know what tone Roy said it was in.

2. Mosely's question was there to put Roy in a bad position. For starters, Roy is playing relatively well this season. Mosely is trying to act like Roy's play is bad and is costing the team. And like I mentioned, no matter what Roy says a guy like Mosely will then make Roy look like the bad guy.

This is a reach. As a reporter I know exactly where Mosley is coming from with this question - he's looking for a good quote, something nobody else has asked yet. If what he said is true, and all he asked was if the fact that the safeties had been burned deep several times this year (which is true) has made him less aggressive, there should be no discussion. It's a completely valid question. Not only did he not say that Roy's play had declined in any way, he didn't even imply it. The first time I read it, I read 'safties' as Watkins and Davis.

Yakuza Rich;1154656 said:
Mosely is a douchebag because he's just a douchebag.

I couldn't care less what opinion you have of the guy, but this current situation shouldn't figure into it. He did nothing wrong here. It's a case of people siding with the player for no reason other than because it's who they like better.
 

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Gryphon;1154575 said:
He's the most thin-skinned star in the league but I realize a lot of you don't care about that. What does he do on Sundays? Well, not quite enough lately.

parchy;1154648 said:
Just because Mosley didn't ask the guy "tell us all how good you are" doesn't make him a douchebag.

What makes him a douchebag is (a) Condescending to his readers like they're a bunch of 3rd grade special ed. children, and (b) Claiming Roy doesn't do enough on Sundays.

He's wrong - and he's a **** about it. Hence - douchebag.
 

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If everyone was claiming I couldn't cover because some idiot in the media says I can't cover, and all the other mediots are too stupid to use their own minds and run with what the first guy said, and they keep reinforcing this point when it's not true at all (as verified by those who actually have football knowledge - like, let's say a HOF coach), then I'd be a little thin skinned too. There's only so many times someone can here an untruth about himself and not get upset about it.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1154649 said:
I don't have a problem with defending some media members. There's plenty of times where players use bad judgement, cross lines, and are in the wrong or just bad people. There are writers who are professional, insightful, smart, and know what they are doing.
Mosely has never proven to be that person. He's the same guy that came up to McBriar last year and told him that he was cut because supposedly Mosely can read lips on a TV screen and Parcells said "he's gone" (according to Mosely) after McBriar shanked a punt against the Skins. That's unprofessional, stupid, and negligent.

As for Roy's play, I'm pretty satisfied with what he's doing. Parcells is as well. The big plays against Dallas have mostly come from the FS (even Mosely hinted at this). Parcells has already benched Watkins and threatened to bench Davis and Coleman to start Watkins again. Call me crazy, but if Roy was truly playing poorly, Parcells wouldn't be benching the Free Safeties.



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I agree with you...But these DMN guys...I don't know, they leave much to be desired.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1154672 said:
I agree.

Roy really sucks at times.

Glad to know that we see eye to eye on this one. :D

Some things you're balls-on-right on.

Some things you're hopelessly wrong on.

This is one of those second things.....;)
 

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superpunk;1154664 said:
What makes him a douchebag is (a) Condescending to his readers like they're a bunch of 3rd grade special ed. children, and (b) Claiming Roy doesn't do enough on Sundays.

He's wrong - and he's a **** about it. Hence - douchebag.

Roy Williams said, "A lot of people get beat in the NFL. Who cares?"

Our supposed team leader on defense said "who cares" to BP's claims that the safety position has been responsible for seven touchdowns this season.

Look, I like Roy a lot, and I don't think he's even played that poorly this season. But you can't react like a giggling defensive baby girl when people ask you tough (or even dumb) questions. Something tells me that if Roy didn't feel at least somewhat culpable for at least a few of those seven TDs, he wouldn't be so damn defensive about it.

If you can't ask a guy about the failings of their play and the play of those around him, you might as well eliminate sports writing.
 

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parchy;1154678 said:
Roy Williams said, "A lot of people get beat in the NFL. Who cares?"

Our supposed team leader on defense said "who cares" to BP's claims that the safety position has been responsible for seven touchdowns this season.

Look, I like Roy a lot, and I don't think he's even played that poorly this season. But you can't react like a giggling defensive baby girl when people ask you tough (or even dumb) questions. Something tells me that if Roy didn't feel at least somewhat culpable for at least a few of those seven TDs, he wouldn't be so damn defensive about it.

If you can't ask a guy about the failings of their play and the play of those around him, you might as well eliminate sports writing.

Roy has been responsible for two of those TDs. The other safeties have surrendered 5-6, and some additional huge gainers. Mosley wanted Roy to finger-point. Roy obviously knows this jerk-off's game by now. He opted not to play. So, Mosley gets to write his pout-piece. Good for him.
 

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Sounds like Roy is very frustrated.....I hope he works things out with Matt
 

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Why do fans get so upset just because a reporter questions a player about his performance?

The fact is Roy is very good at some things and average to below average in other areas. But so is most every other player in the league, so there's nothing wrong with that.

But Roy needs to be a professional and take the criticism and not respond like a child.

I don't know if anyone else notices it, but you can tell by Roy's body language on the field when a big pass play occurs. Several times I've noticed that if he is around a deep pass completion he immediately looks around like there has got to be someone or something else to blame for the completion.
 

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SupermanXx;1154658 said:
mickgreen you have no say. you listen to K104 which is two federal offenses

1) you listen to the radio instead of your own cds - horrible choice
2) K104? please... if I thought idiots "rapping" about their money and how phat their girl's *** is was cool, I would tune in also

;)

These are very intersting (and somewhat troubling) statement by you and I am glad I know where you stand.

Thanks, I will be sure to ignore you from now on ;) .

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1154689 said:
These are very intersting (and somewhat troubling) statement by you and I am glad I know where you stand.

Thanks, I will be sure to ignore you from now on ;) .

- Mike G.

No idea what you're talking about.

Thanks, ;)
 

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superpunk;1154680 said:
Roy has been responsible for two of those TDs. The other safeties have surrendered 5-6, and some additional huge gainers. Mosley wanted Roy to finger-point. Roy obviously knows this jerk-off's game by now. He opted not to play. So, Mosley gets to write his pout-piece. Good for him.

I guess at this point it's just a matter of opinion. I don't think Mosley was finger-pointing at all. If Roy is indeed the leader of the defense (or at least the secondary), he should be asked these questions, because he'd be the guy that would know. Roy has made enough mistakes this year to warrant that question, and it's not like it was that hard-hitting in the first place.
 

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My Grandfather use to tell me "Don't poke the bear" . If you provoke somebody enough , you're going to get a resposne and it might not be one you like . That's just human nature , not thin skin . While the media has every right to ask the questions that players might not want to hear , the players have every right to answer those questions in any manner that they choose . I don't really have a problem with the Mosley questions , but I also don't have a problem with the Williams answers .
 

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This was the first time Williams had spoken to reporters since Sunday's loss. He's the most thin-skinned star in the league but I realize a lot of you don't care about that. What does he do on Sundays? Well, not quite enough lately. ..

To me, this article sounded like nothing but a personal grudge aimed at Roy...

But I don't live in Texas... I live in DC, and the reporters are definitely a world apart over here regarding how they act with respect to the home team... The Commanders can be 0-12, and the reporters over here are speaking nothing but about how the Commanders are so close to greatness and just can't get over the hump....
 

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CaptainAmerica;1154685 said:
Why do fans get so upset just because a reporter questions a player about his performance?

He didn't. He posed a question to get Roy to put the blame on other players. Roy didn't go for the bait

The fact is Roy is very good at some things and average to below average in other areas. But so is most every other player in the league, so there's nothing wrong with that.

Which is the same manner Roy answered the question. But according to Mosely you would be pouting and you would be the player with the thinnest skin in the league.


I don't know if anyone else notices it, but you can tell by Roy's body language on the field when a big pass play occurs. Several times I've noticed that if he is around a deep pass completion he immediately looks around like there has got to be someone or something else to blame for the completion.

Well, when you come over in help responsibility and the player that has the main responsibility isn't doing his job, you will tend to look around to see where that player is.

If Roy made the INT in the Skins game he'd have 4 INT's. Only in Dallas land can a strong safety be on pace for 6 INT's this year and be having a poor year. Not to mention he lack of a pass rush isn't helping the secondary either.



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Some guys are so desperate to blame Roy for everything, they will simply take this as evidence of what they want and need...

Roy's not the biggest problem here. He's not perfect, but he's been one of the best players on this team this season. There are a lot of people who have unreasonable expectations of him. I guarantee you that a lot of these other star safeties aren't treated the way Roy is by the media and fans...
 

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Well, I'm not really interested in the opinion of a bunch of homers who don't know and have never even talked to Roy, much less been in the locker room, defend him on the charge of being thin-skinned...blah blah blah.

I'm equally uninterested in hearing those who don't think he's a very good safety and is to blame for allowing big plays that cost us games talk about it since they don't know squat either.

However, I'm really awaiting a post in this thread from Dale or someone who actually is around the locker room.

Dale, whether you've seen it or not, does Roy have a rep for being defensive and thin-skinned? Or are you being quiet on this one for professional purposes?
 
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