Roy Williams has totally disappeared from the game plan. What do we do wit him?

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Avenging Hayseed;3196962 said:
Number one reason why Ive never liked Williams as a football player......Lazy routes. WORST thing you can do. Biggest NO NO ever as a w.r. C,mon guys.....think back to the 90;s when Norv was running this offense. A W.R HAD BEST run his route to the proper depth without rounding it off TO THE INCH! If he didnt he wasnt gonna play for Norv. Norv would have sat this clown long ago. Because if he doesnt run correct routes he cant be trusted. And if he cant be trusted........WHAT GOOD IS HE>? End of story.

You are quickly becoming one of the premier posters. After me, of course.
Keep on posting, bro, the world needs the whole truth about de man formerly known as the great RW pass catcher at Pemican High and UT.
 

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I think they should just keep doing what they have been doing - integrating other players into the offense.

It's worked well so far and I would stick with it.

You can also give Williams the opportunity to work his way out of his current struggles.

And if he can provide anything during the playoffs, that only a plus for the team.

Despite his recent struggles, it doesn't look to me like he's hurting the offense, likely because the team is rotating other players into the lineup and not forcing Williams out there on every play.

I'd proceed from the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of thinking.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;3196985 said:
You are quickly becoming one of the premier posters. After me, of course.
Keep on posting, bro, the world needs the whole truth about de man formerly known as the great RW pass catcher at Pemican High and UT.
Thanks GTB !
 

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At this point, ask him to restructure his contract.
He is an ok reciever at this point, he's not worth giving up on, but he's not giving us the production he is being paid to bring.

Rotation of #2 recievers is the best way to go. Keep Crayton in the slot, bring in Hurd and Ogletree in the #2, and give Roy some snaps as well.

Give him the message that he can be benched if he doesn't perform and lose little production if at all when he's on the bench.
 

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YoMick;3196918 said:
but the fact is... Roy is a quality WR.

(How do you know dat? Huh? Has he exhibited quality here? And I empathize the word HERE.)



His problem right now is confidence and route running.

(Hey, dat is my problem, confidence and route running, but when I get them back I plan to audition for the Cowboys . . . .) rolling my eyes.



Bottom line: He doesnt want to play poorly. He just is. HE can fix it. It starts this weekend.
(Listen, the NFL and particularly the Dallas Cowboys is no place for on the job training. If he gets his groove back, great. Just don't infringe on the playing time of youthful and hungry and more talented players while we let RW work out his psychology and his innards. And as far as letting him start fixing it tis weekend, well, the team is Rolling now and the Cowboys train cannot stop to pick up this highly paid but psychologically damaged has-been. You and he can go down mammary lane to Pemican high school and UT, but this is now and this is for keeps and the Cowboys are doing jus fine mighty fine without that overpaid sack of Longhorn. Save your hosannas and expectations for players like Ogle and Crayton who are producing despite RW's playing time. And quit acting like you are his agent because if you were, you'd be selling a player next year that nobody want.)


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stasheroo;3196988 said:
I think they should just keep doing what they have been doing - integrating other players into the offense.

It's worked well so far and I would stick with it.

You can also give Williams the opportunity to work his way out of his current struggles.

And if he can provide anything during the playoffs, that only a plus for the team.

Despite his recent struggles, it doesn't look to me like he's hurting the offense, likely because the team is rotating other players into the lineup and not forcing Williams out there on every play.

I'd proceed from the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of thinking.

Did it ever occur to you that by letting RW "work his way out of his current struggles" that he is retarding the development of younger and hungrier players? That he is taking playing time away from better skilled players?

I, too, subscribe to the DMN and to the if-it-ain't-broke therim, but dang, bro, he maybe not be hurting the team but he is not contributing. Yeah, he takes one defender with him, but any rookie could do that.
rotating is fine, but rotate skilled players, not has-beens like RW.

So let Roy work out his troubles on the sports psychologist's couch, not on the field.

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Four;3196813 said:
Back when we had keyshawn, didn't it take a while before Romo would just throw the ball to Key regardless of how it looked? Keyshawn and Roy are similar, roy is a lot faster though.

ok, did I overlook the sarcasm sign here or what? Romo was holding the clipboard on the sidelines when Keyshawn was in Dallas.
 

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Wow, lots of Longhorn homers on this thread. Let's bring back O.J. McClintock!!!
 

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YoMick;3196797 said:
He is a Cowboy brother. You stand by him and get him through this.
I only stand behind Cowboys who help the team win. Roy is not one of them. If I were Jerry (which I'm not) I would give him one offseason to get his stuff together. If he has another year like this year he would be gone.
 

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Breaking news...........Roy finds long lost brother after all these years. Will he meet the same fate at valley Ranch? Inquiring minds need to know...;)


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Im thinking Jerry will at least let Roy get dressed instead of throwing him out in his pajama's and slippers like his brother.
 

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Cover 2;3197117 said:
I only stand behind Cowboys who help the team win. Roy is not one of them. If I were Jerry (which I'm not) I would give him one offseason to get his stuff together. If he has another year like this year he would be gone.


I hear ya. Fair enough. Who has this info?

Has any of Roy's catches and TD's helped during the course of the game. Momentum? Drive extenders? etc??

Curious?
 

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GimmeTheBall!;3197042 said:
Did it ever occur to you that by letting RW "work his way out of his current struggles" that he is retarding the development of younger and hungrier players? That he is taking playing time away from better skilled players?

Like who?

Ogletree looks to be progressing just fine and both Austin and Crayton are making plays, along with Witten.

I, too, subscribe to the DMN and to the if-it-ain't-broke therim, but dang, bro, he maybe not be hurting the team but he is not contributing. Yeah, he takes one defender with him, but any rookie could do that.
rotating is fine, but rotate skilled players, not has-beens like RW.

He has contributed 7 touchdowns this season, that can't simply be ignored. While he's certainly struggling, it does nothing for either him or this team to simply write him off and be done with him.

So let Roy work out his troubles on the sports psychologist's couch, not on the field.

:mad:

Again, the guy is struggling but he can't still play and I think the team is handling it the best way that they can and I applaud all involved in that decision.
 

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Cover 2;3197117 said:
I only stand behind Cowboys who help the team win. Roy is not one of them. If I were Jerry (which I'm not) I would give him one offseason to get his stuff together. If he has another year like this year he would be gone.

This is a common sense approach. I think the CBA or lack thereof may have alot to do with what happens to RW.
 

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Four;3196873 said:
sorry, I don't subscribe to the "what have you done for me lately" idea about players.

Roy can play, always could. He flashes here at times.

Honestly, if he pulls it together and Romo and he Iron out their differences Austin and Williams complement each other perfectly.

I am going to get blasted but I kinda wish kitna got some time in the 4th last game. Might have been good for Roy.

Do yous subscribe to the "what have you done for me over the last 2 years" idea?

If not, you're fooling yourself.
 

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Hoofbite;3197161 said:
Do yous subscribe to the "what have you done for me over the last 2 years" idea?

If not, you're fooling yourself.


LMAO! And RIGHT ON THE MARK!
 

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Four;3196813 said:
Back when we had keyshawn, didn't it take a while before Romo would just throw the ball to Key regardless of how it looked? Keyshawn and Roy are similar, roy is a lot faster though.

Don't think Romo and Key ever played together............

So yes, it is just Roy Williams that has these so-called "chemistry" issues.
 

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aikemirv;3196906 said:
I don't get this, you get all the head cases off your team, and your team thrives, and yet you want to go after another one.

Are you for real?

I see your point. However I don't see how we can make good out of this situation other than keep waiting for Roy to get going. I the rate he's progressing he might be in his late 30's by the time he's back
 

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GimmeTheBall!;3196776 said:
Seriously, what do with do with such a low-achiever? Such a whiner and a complainer?
(Yes a whiner and a complainer; you see he always goes to the edge. For example, he will say that the QB is not giving him enough looks. then he will backtrack and say everbody needs looks and his chances will come. Another time he will say sarcastically that he really sucks [he does] and then backtrack and say he is just trying very hard. Then he will say the QB and the staff don't have confidence in him and then come from the very edge and explain that he will have to win their confidence back. You see, with RW, it is brinksmanship with words.)
But it is always the same ol Roy. Weak, unmotivated and with plenty of excuses.

Could we just dump him and eat his salary?
Could we trade him for . . . a 6th round draft choice?
Could we make him very expensive camp and team fodder?
Could we trade him to Permian High School for a roll of tape?

What can we do with this almost-average player?

Crayton, Ogle and Phillips deserve a chance to contribute.

This team is on a roll. It is peaking. And RW has totally missed the team bus.

I hope jerry learned his leasson. the scouting dept. didn't give their blessing on trading for williams, but Jerry thought that after a 13-3 season, paying anything to get you over the top is worth it and he thought williams was the cure...well it wasn't......and neither was TO and I hope after two mistakes he learned.
 

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Hoofbite;3197161 said:
Do yous subscribe to the "what have you done for me over the last 2 years" idea?

If not, you're fooling yourself.

Roy hasn't been here two years, he came in halfway through last season behind the loudest mouth in the game and expecting too much in that situation isn't all that reasonable. He's sucking it up this year for sure, but one season isn't a guys career.
 
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