Roy Williams [Lions] getting fed up; thinks Lions could be cursed

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BY RICK GOSSELIN • DALLAS MORNING NEWS • September 24, 2008

ALLEN PARK — Ask Roy Williams about his losses in high school at Odessa Permain, Texas, and he can remember each and every one. There were 19 in four years.


Ask Williams about his losses in college at Texas and he can remember each and every one. There were 10 in four years. He can even offer up details.

But ask Williams about his losses the last five years with the Detroit Lions and his memory becomes a blur.

“I started counting them up last off-season,” Williams said, “but I lost track.”

Easy to see why. The Lions have played 67 games since drafting Williams and have lost 46 of them, including all three this season.

“Losing has always bothered me, here or anywhere else,” Williams said. “I went to the Pro Bowl two years ago, and to see those other guys — winners, guys who went to the playoffs — to see their faces. . . . They’re excited. I’m 3-13 and I’m feeling out of place. I’d just like to win one year just to see what it feels like.”

Williams may get that chance in 2009. He’s finishing up his five-year rookie contract and could be eligible for free agency this off-season.

“Everybody would like to stay where they are drafted,” Williams said. “But at the same time, everybody would like to go back home as they get older. My home is Texas.”

Talk radio has been crackling with his name as a potential addition for the Cowboys to give them a younger, deeper, more talented corps of wide receivers. Williams knows there’s a yearning for him back home.

“My brother keeps me informed,” said Williams of Lloyd Hill, a former NCAA receiving champion at Texas Tech who lives in Grand Prairie.

But there’s no guarantee that Williams will leave Detroit in 2009, even though the two sides are not talking contract at this point. It’s not that the talks have broken off. They never started.

“They say this organization waits until the last minute,” Williams said. “It doesn’t bother me. I really don’t care. If I’m here, they’re going to pay me. If not, I’ll be somewhere else.”

The Lions can prevent Williams from leaving by slapping a franchise tag on him. That would guarantee him a one-year contract at an average salary of the five highest-paid wide receivers in the NFL.

But the Lions also could send him packing early. If the losses continue to mount, the NFL trade deadline looms on Oct. 14. A team suddenly building for the future such as the Lions may be swayed by a premium draft pick or two.

“It’s always in the back of my mind,” Williams said. “What’s going to happen? Am I going to get franchised? Are they going to pay me, or am I going to end up somewhere else? Or are they going to trade me in the middle of the season like Chris Chambers last year?”

Williams is a proven commodity. He caught 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns in his Pro Bowl season in 2006, then lit up Philadelphia for a nine-catch, 204-yard game in 2007. But a knee injury last December cost him the chance for back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons. He spent the final four games on injured reserve.

Williams is only 26 with plenty of quality football years left in his body. He could see himself spending those years in Detroit.

“When I got drafted, the first thing I said was I want to be the one who turns this franchise around,” Williams said. “So far that hasn’t happened. But that’s still my goal, to turn this place around.”

But Williams may need a little help. The Lions, who have a bye this week, are one of six NFL franchises that have never been to a Super Bowl.
“I think this place is cursed,” Williams said. “I asked our chaplain if he knew anyone who could christen Ford Field to get it right for us.”
 

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who wants to play for the texans?-he meant the cowboys.come home roy.
 

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Pick6TerenceNewman;2283132 said:
Roy Williams is over-rated.
Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.
 

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Pick6TerenceNewman;2283132 said:
Roy Williams is over-rated.

The more I look at his numbers, the more it seems to me you may be right. But, there seems to be no doubt that even if he over-rated, he would be the perfect addition for this team. And that is what it ultimately is about, making additions that make the team better.

I don't think ego would be a big thing for Roy, considering he hasn't so much as peeped a word with all the drafting of WRs in Detroit.
 

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Hostile;2283140 said:
Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.
ageed
 

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With Millen out of the way, I am 99% certain now he'll be traded.

I just hope it's to US.:starspin
 

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Who would you give up for Roy Williams? And please don't say Crayton, because Detroit is loaded with WRs and Detroit isn't going to want Patrick Crayton.

And Crayton as a third is perfect for this team anyways.
 

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Hostile;2283140 said:
Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

I agree. Detriot problems is not WR they don't have a QB worth a damn
 

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Doomsday101;2283163 said:
I agree. Detriot problems is not WR they don't have a QB worth a damn

Besides the fact that Kitna is wildly inconsistent and holds onto the ball way too long, there offensive line is horrible as well. What type of blocking scheme do they emply in Detroit? Maybe we can get rid of Proctor...
 

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Hostile;2283140 said:
Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

I would say the chance of Roy W going back to Detroit in 2009 are zero to none.

I would also say the chance of Detroit making the playoffs this year are zero to none.

If Detroit does not even attempt a trade they have lost their mind.

Actually they really did lose their mind long time ago...
 

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We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.
 

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khiladi;2283167 said:
Besides the fact that Kitna is wildly inconsistent and holds onto the ball way too long, there offensive line is horrible as well. What type of blocking scheme do they emply in Detroit? Maybe we can get rid of Proctor...

Bad combo, QB holds it too long behind a line that does not block well. :D
I don't expect to see any trade taking place with the Lions, a new GM will take his time for the remainder of the season and any big moves will be made after the season.
 

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Hostile;2283140 said:
Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

thats so true.
 

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khiladi;2283160 said:
Who would you give up for Roy Williams? And please don't say Crayton, because Detroit is loaded with WRs and Detroit isn't going to want Patrick Crayton.

And Crayton as a third is perfect for this team anyways.

Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:
 

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starfrombirth;2283180 said:
Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:

That would not work salary cap wise.
 
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