Roy Williams "Speed"

[cowboys5]

Williams is galaxies away from Fitzgerald's level.

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[cowboyschmps3]

i was going to put that vid up he is fast..........

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

If the OLINE remains the weakest link on Offense then Roy Williams could be Larry Fitzgerald plus Tony Romo could be Tom Brady and it wouldn't make one single bit of difference.

 

[jterrell]

a couple of points here.

1) How many times are we going to see this same thread pop up with this same video?

2) Roy Williams has never been considered an elite speed guy. He wasn't at Texas where he was the 3rd fastest high school WR they signed, he wasn't in Detroit where he was their size guy to run slants and he certainly wasn't last year.

3) RW is not slow but he doesn't have explosive speed and isn't a WR whose game is about speed. He is a guy who goes and gets the ball and uses his body as well as anyone to shield defenders.

4) Patrick Crayton has long TD plays and he is a 4.65 guy. Recall how he burned the Commander secondary a few years back?

5) We don't need RW to be a 4.3 WR. We need him to be a first down machine. Austin can fly, Felix Jones can fly and we have a ton of draft picks to go add another depth WR with speed. We need our lead WR to catch everything thrown his way and keep the chains moving so we become more efficient. RW is not going to replace T.O.'s speed and we do not need him to.

 

[CATCH17]

a couple of points here.

1) How many times are we going to see this same thread pop up with this same video?

2) Roy Williams has never been considered an elite speed guy. He wasn't at Texas where he was the 3rd fastest high school WR they signed, he wasn't in Detroit where he was their size guy to run slants and he certainly wasn't last year.

3) RW is not slow but he doesn't have explosive speed and isn't a WR whose game is about speed. He is a guy who goes and gets the ball and uses his body as well as anyone to shield defenders.

4) Patrick Crayton has long TD plays and he is a 4.65 guy. Recall how he burned the Commander secondary a few years back?

5) We don't need RW to be a 4.3 WR. We need him to be a first down machine. Austin can fly, Felix Jones can fly and we have a ton of draft picks to go add another depth WR with speed. We need our lead WR to catch everything thrown his way and keep the chains moving so we become more efficient. RW is not going to replace T.O.'s speed and we do not need him to.

Bottom line. Just make plays baby.

He has all of the tools to do exactly that.

 

[AKATheRake]

a couple of points here.

1) How many times are we going to see this same thread pop up with this same video?

2) Roy Williams has never been considered an elite speed guy. He wasn't at Texas where he was the 3rd fastest high school WR they signed, he wasn't in Detroit where he was their size guy to run slants and he certainly wasn't last year.

3) RW is not slow but he doesn't have explosive speed and isn't a WR whose game is about speed. He is a guy who goes and gets the ball and uses his body as well as anyone to shield defenders.

4) Patrick Crayton has long TD plays and he is a 4.65 guy. Recall how he burned the Commander secondary a few years back?

5) We don't need RW to be a 4.3 WR. We need him to be a first down machine. Austin can fly, Felix Jones can fly and we have a ton of draft picks to go add another depth WR with speed. We need our lead WR to catch everything thrown his way and keep the chains moving so we become more efficient. RW is not going to replace T.O.'s speed and we do not need him to.

There are things in this post that I will agree with you but you sound a little to sure about this WR core. Austin, Hurd, Stanback all have durability issues. Crayton has mild and so does RW. Austin has never started an NFL game and the most passes he's caught in a season are 13. He's going into his 4th season now and no matter what excuses or how much potential Austin has, those are the facts about his career.

I think RW is a quality WR and Austin has somepotential. Crayton can grind out some needed catches in the slot but you have too much faith in a WR corps that hasn't proven much. It's most proven player is RW and he's 3 years removed from the pro bowl and a 1,000 yard season now that we'll be starting 2009 soon. There will be durability concerns at WR this season if we leave the position as is. History with the players we have says so. I'm not convinced no matter how convicted you saound in your words. Would appreciate some information to back up from what I percieve to be a gutshot feeling you have about the WR core of this team. Don't like its current odds at all.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Is he as fast as Stanback?

 

[DallasEast]

a couple of points here.

1) How many times are we going to see this same thread pop up with this same video?

2) Roy Williams has never been considered an elite speed guy. He wasn't at Texas where he was the 3rd fastest high school WR they signed, he wasn't in Detroit where he was their size guy to run slants and he certainly wasn't last year.

3) RW is not slow but he doesn't have explosive speed and isn't a WR whose game is about speed. He is a guy who goes and gets the ball and uses his body as well as anyone to shield defenders.

4) Patrick Crayton has long TD plays and he is a 4.65 guy. Recall how he burned the Commander secondary a few years back?

5) We don't need RW to be a 4.3 WR. We need him to be a first down machine. Austin can fly, Felix Jones can fly and we have a ton of draft picks to go add another depth WR with speed. We need our lead WR to catch everything thrown his way and keep the chains moving so we become more efficient. RW is not going to replace T.O.'s speed and we do not need him to.

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[SLATEmosphere]

Roy Williams is legit..there's so many haters on him it's disgusting.

 

[CarlAllDay]

Well, according to the NFL Gameday crew, Dawkins didn't play that day. So, maybe hsi stride makes him look slow or something BUT, I've been looking at some of his video in his Lions days. When he get in the open field, people rarely seem to catch him. So, I really don't know what to think. Personally, I hope everyone plays him like he can't outrun anybody OR get deep. If healthy, I see him with these numbers:

70-75 catches, 1150-1200 yards, 10 TD's

i cpuldnt agree with you more its funny how because he came to dallas in the middle of the season and we failed to involve him in the offense and he's suddenly just another wideout!!

this guy has played well his whole career and made the most out of his oppourtunities in the black hole of the nfl (detroit)

he's a very good wideout with potential to be great and he's happy to be home playing for his favorite team growing up and him, romo, witten, and barber is the future of the team.

thats a great combination especially when him and tony get the timing down pact.

 

[5mics]

I've watched Roy Williams for a long time. The problem with Roy is perception right now. Roy Williams has exceptional 100 speed. He is not a quick, 40 guy. If he can get his legs extended, you will not catch him from behind but he's never going to be a quick guy. Randy Moss is like this as well. I don't believe any of the Dallas fan base has seen the real Roy Williams but I won't try to convince. I expect Roy to come out healthy this season and I think you will see a different WR. However, the proof is always in the putting so we will see what we will see.

I'm pulling for him.

Me too!

 

[Lodeus]

I dont care if hes the fastest if can play like this ill be pretty happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCmK8_Kp_eM&feature=related

 

[2much2soon]

There are things in this post that I will agree with you but you sound a little to sure about this WR core. Austin, Hurd, Stanback all have durability issues. Crayton has mild and so does RW. Austin has never started an NFL game and the most passes he's caught in a season are 13. He's going into his 4th season now and no matter what excuses or how much potential Austin has, those are the facts about his career.

I think RW is a quality WR and Austin has somepotential. Crayton can grind out some needed catches in the slot but you have too much faith in a WR corps that hasn't proven much. It's most proven player is RW and he's 3 years removed from the pro bowl and a 1,000 yard season now that we'll be starting 2009 soon. There will be durability concerns at WR this season if we leave the position as is. History with the players we have says so. I'm not convinced no matter how convicted you saound in your words. Would appreciate some information to back up from what I percieve to be a gutshot feeling you have about the WR core of this team. Don't like its current odds at all.

Your assessment of the WR skills is right on.

What you may be missing is that this team doesn't need to have a dominant group of WRs with the TEs and RBs this team has.

Plenty of teams, playoff and SB caliber teams, have JAGs at WR.

Dallas just needs some guys at WR who can keep defenses honest when they are getting pounded in the running game and the TEs are eating away at them. I think RoyW, Austin, Crayton and Hurd can do that.

 

[jterrell]

There are things in this post that I will agree with you but you sound a little to sure about this WR core. Austin, Hurd, Stanback all have durability issues. Crayton has mild and so does RW. Austin has never started an NFL game and the most passes he's caught in a season are 13. He's going into his 4th season now and no matter what excuses or how much potential Austin has, those are the facts about his career.

I think RW is a quality WR and Austin has somepotential. Crayton can grind out some needed catches in the slot but you have too much faith in a WR corps that hasn't proven much. It's most proven player is RW and he's 3 years removed from the pro bowl and a 1,000 yard season now that we'll be starting 2009 soon. There will be durability concerns at WR this season if we leave the position as is. History with the players we have says so. I'm not convinced no matter how convicted you saound in your words. Would appreciate some information to back up from what I percieve to be a gutshot feeling you have about the WR core of this team. Don't like its current odds at all.

I am not sold on it either.

I am simply suggesting we don't need to turn RW into Joey Galloway. Fitzgerald isn't all that fast. But it doesn't matter. RW uses his body well and doesn't need to be 3 yards away from a defender to make a catch.

And to be clear I expect Felix Jones to give teams headaches and Austin, whenever he is the game, to stretch the field. But I am fine playing old school first down football and that's what I grew up with. It worked for the 90's Cowboys who had the "slow" but indefensible Michael Irvin.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I am not sold on it either.

I am simply suggesting we don't need to turn RW into Joey Galloway. Fitzgerald isn't all that fast. But it doesn't matter. RW uses his body well and doesn't need to be 3 yards away from a defender to make a catch.

And to be clear I expect Felix Jones to give teams headaches and Austin, whenever he is the game, to stretch the field. But I am fine playing old school first down football and that's what I grew up with. It worked for the 90's Cowboys who had the "slow" but indefensible Michael Irvin.

Traditionally, the #1 WR moves the chains and gets the majority of the receptions. The #2 WR is the deep threat. He makes the safety honor over the top. I know what you are saying JT. I would love to have Harvin but I don't believe we will see him. I really hope Austin breaks out this year.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

For those folks that think Williams isn't fast (when healthy), just go to the following link:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?categoryI...92306&week=3&seasonFilter=2007&seasonType=REG

It's the '07 Lions vs Eagles game when he takes a 10-12 yard slant 91 yards. Huh, he looked pretty damn fast to me ya'll.

Yeah...well...we don't run any patterns that aren't at least 30 yards downfield in which the line must block for 5 minutes in the Garrett game plan...oh, and we run 5 times a game too.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah...well...we don't run any patterns that aren't at least 30 yards downfield in which the line must block for 5 minutes in the Garrett game plan...oh, and we run 5 times a game too.

Nice Avitar thou QBC.

 

[jobberone]

I've watched Roy Williams for a long time. The problem with Roy is perception right now. Roy Williams has exceptional 100 speed. He is not a quick, 40 guy. If he can get his legs extended, you will not catch him from behind but he's never going to be a quick guy. Randy Moss is like this as well. I don't believe any of the Dallas fan base has seen the real Roy Williams but I won't try to convince. I expect Roy to come out healthy this season and I think you will see a different WR. However, the proof is always in the putting so we will see what we will see.

I'm pulling for him.

He ran a 10.2 100 in HS. That's smoking. You're right. He's faster than quick. Long legs do that.

 

[Bleu Star]

For those folks that think Williams isn't fast (when healthy), just go to the following link:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?categoryI...92306&week=3&seasonFilter=2007&seasonType=REG

It's the '07 Lions vs Eagles game when he takes a 10-12 yard slant 91 yards. Huh, he looked pretty damn fast to me ya'll.

Wow. Great video. I'm liking this guy more and more but I just hope the injuries are a thing of the past... e need him on the field doing what he was doing in that video often. His success equates to team success... something it would be nice to see for a change. I did see a lot of successful slants and post routes. Someone needs to put that video on a disc and mail it to Red immediately.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There are things in this post that I will agree with you but you sound a little to sure about this WR core. Austin, Hurd, Stanback all have durability issues. Crayton has mild and so does RW. Austin has never started an NFL game and the most passes he's caught in a season are 13. He's going into his 4th season now and no matter what excuses or how much potential Austin has, those are the facts about his career.

I think RW is a quality WR and Austin has some potential. Crayton can grind out some needed catches in the slot but you have too much faith in a WR corps that hasn't proven much. It's most proven player is RW and he's 3 years removed from the pro bowl and a 1,000 yard season now that we'll be starting 2009 soon. There will be durability concerns at WR this season if we leave the position as is. History with the players we have says so. Don't like its current odds at all.

That is a great post.

Exactly why I'm worried if we go into the season as we stand now.