Roy Williams showed why he shouldn't be benched

[zrinkill]

I don't know about where you guys come from by I see improvement across the entire corps of guys.

I don't like this post, it is too much like right.

:laugh2:

 

[CATCH17]

I think people are looking at the WR position wrong because of money and a trade. I find that kind of ridiculous.

It should be looked at according to production. When you combine the entire corps of WRs and compare the actual numbers there is no doubt we improved as a team without Owens.

Whether people like that or not, is irrelevant. You can look at a player from one year to the next and determine improvement or decline. But the WRs had different roles from last year to this one. It isn't fair to compare Austin to Owens. It isn't fair to compare Stanback to Ogletree.

It is absolutely fair to compare the entire Corps of WRs in 2008 to the entire Corps of WRs in 2009. Why? Because the team philosophy has not changed, merely the implementation of it.

Owens...69 receptions, 1052 yards, 10 TDs
Williams...19 receptions, 198 yards, 1 TD
Crayton...39 receptions, 550 yards, 4 TDs
Austin...13 receptions, 278 yards, 3 TDs
Stanback...2 receptions, 24 yards

That comes to 142 receptions, 2302 yards, 18 TDs for the WR corps.

Austin...81 receptions, 1320 yards, 11 TDs
Williams...38 receptions, 596 yards, 7 TDs
Crayton...37 receptions, 622 yards, 5 TDs
Hurd...7 receptions, 121 yards, 1 TD
Ogletree...7 receptions, 96 yards

That comes to 170 receptions, 2755 yards, 24 TDs for the WR corps.


I don't know about where you guys come from by I see improvement across the entire corps of guys.

I agree about the entire improvement of the receiving corpse but the reason so many of us are so hard on Roy is because we expect a lot more out of him.

600 yard seasons isn't going to cut it. But its looking like with the emergence of Austin that we just need him to shine when his number is called.

The guy has way to much ability to play like some average guy.

He can be a playmaker for us and the slate is clean with me because of last Saturday and we'll see if he can build on that performance.

 

[aikemirv]

I think people are looking at the WR position wrong because of money and a trade. I find that kind of ridiculous.

It should be looked at according to production. When you combine the entire corps of WRs and compare the actual numbers there is no doubt we improved as a team without Owens.

Whether people like that or not, is irrelevant. You can look at a player from one year to the next and determine improvement or decline. But the WRs had different roles from last year to this one. It isn't fair to compare Austin to Owens. It isn't fair to compare Stanback to Ogletree.

It is absolutely fair to compare the entire Corps of WRs in 2008 to the entire Corps of WRs in 2009. Why? Because the team philosophy has not changed, merely the implementation of it.

Owens...69 receptions, 1052 yards, 10 TDs
Williams...19 receptions, 198 yards, 1 TD
Crayton...39 receptions, 550 yards, 4 TDs
Austin...13 receptions, 278 yards, 3 TDs
Stanback...2 receptions, 24 yards

That comes to 142 receptions, 2302 yards, 18 TDs for the WR corps.

Austin...81 receptions, 1320 yards, 11 TDs
Williams...38 receptions, 596 yards, 7 TDs
Crayton...37 receptions, 622 yards, 5 TDs
Hurd...7 receptions, 121 yards, 1 TD
Ogletree...7 receptions, 96 yards

That comes to 170 receptions, 2755 yards, 24 TDs for the WR corps.


I don't know about where you guys come from by I see improvement across the entire corps of guys.

Thats fine and I have hopes for RW and have always been in favor of him on the team but those numbers could be much better if RW would have had his head on straight for the entire season. He has just now taken the right attitude about the team and stopped focusing on himself proving to everyone how good he is.

I know you want to defend the guy but he has brought most of this crap on himself.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Did anyone other than that idiot Werder really think Roy should be benched? He may be disappointing and we may have vastly overpaid, but he's still a talented player.

As inexplicably slow as he seems to be now, he's still a huge guy with a long wingspan and great hands. There's a reason he was a top-7 draft pick overall.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Did anyone other than that idiot Werder really think Roy should be benched? He may be disappointing and we may have vastly overpaid, but he's still a talented player.

As inexplicably slow as he seems to be now, he's still a huge guy with a long wingspan and great hands. There's a reason he was a top-7 draft pick overall.

My comments were directed towards the fans on here and on the radio.

I didn't know Ed Werder had called for Roy Williams to be benched.

As far as him being picked, at some point where you were picked in the Draft becomes irrelevant as your actual on field production becomes the tool as to which you are judged.

I will say one thing, every time Kevin Ogletree touches the ball, he just looks really good.

 

[SilberBlau]

Stupid play call for RW on that screen. Not his forte. He had a very solid game and was targeted probably six times and caught 5. The one that went through his hands was a hot read and he turned late. I give Roy an A for his game Saturday.

He was 5 for 8 on 40 plays. Solid. I'd give him a B. If he plays every game like this, this is a non-issue.

 

[Marktui]

And they spread the ball around - no one receicer had a monster catch day.

All had 5 - 6 and good yards.

Exactly, if Romo does that next week we should be just fine against the Vikes. That's how we get the big plays, you keep the db's guessing and then hit them when with the big downfield strike!!

I hope we keep this momentum going next week, cause we will be hard to beat!!!

 

[CATCH17]

Did anyone other than that idiot Werder really think Roy should be benched? He may be disappointing and we may have vastly overpaid, but he's still a talented player.

As inexplicably slow as he seems to be now, he's still a huge guy with a long wingspan and great hands. There's a reason he was a top-7 draft pick overall.

I called for a rotation.

 

[Future]

Did anyone other than that idiot Werder really think Roy should be benched? He may be disappointing and we may have vastly overpaid, but he's still a talented player.

As inexplicably slow as he seems to be now, he's still a huge guy with a long wingspan and great hands. There's a reason he was a top-7 draft pick overall.

He's not slow...just a long strider. He has deceptive speed.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think our whole WR corps play better as a group and there is simply no denying that fact.

 

[ZeroClub]

I think our whole WR corps play better as a group and there is simply no denying that fact.

That's true, but they'd have even better stats had Williams caught some of his drops (or if Crayton had been the 2nd WR).

I can't fault the team for trying to establish Williams during the regular season, though.

The thing that worries me about #11 in postseason - He's more likely to have a Jackie Smith play than Jackie Smith was.

 

[RS12]

I think people are looking at the WR position wrong because of money and a trade. I find that kind of ridiculous.

Come on Hos, in the salary cap era you have to look hard at how much you pay a player and what it costs in terms of personnel to acquire one. Thats just the way it is.

 

[heathead]

RW did good early - but there was a 3 play stretch were he kills the drive. And you could see the disgust in Tony's eyes.

First he falls down on the screen - not too much disgust here - just a little "ah c'mon" look.

Second Tony has to throw quick across the middle - catchable or not - RW stops his route look at Tony he's disgusted.

Third play Tony over throws him in the endzone - but after wards you see Tony motion to RW that he should have cut inside instead - so Tony had to throw it away.

after that he was a non factor - Tony gives him a chance till he screws up then the trust is gone. next drive same play to Miles, and he scores.

That's what sux about RW.

 

[rysko]

yea 40 catches 600 yards is good. he needs to renegotiate his contract, end of story. and that screen he slipped on, which was an easy TD... disappointing. cost us 4 points, we ended up only kicking a field goal. I have no idea why we even ran that to him, dumb coaching, trying to get baby involved. just like TO when we would run reverses with him, or throw him quick passes. pointless.

 

[Hostile]

I agree about the entire improvement of the receiving corpse but the reason so many of us are so hard on Roy is because we expect a lot more out of him.

600 yard seasons isn't going to cut it. But its looking like with the emergence of Austin that we just need him to shine when his number is called.

The guy has way to much ability to play like some average guy.

He can be a playmaker for us and the slate is clean with me because of last Saturday and we'll see if he can build on that performance.

I can tell you that if Roy's and Miles' stats were reversed that many people on here would be ecstatic.

I can also tell you that my opinion would not be altered in the least.

I simply do not think this is a huge issue because the team as a whole is dangerous because of the passing game and all the pieces involved.

Would I like to have two 1000 yard WRs? Absolutely. Instead we have a TE who provides that. To have 2 WRs and a TE hit that kind of production is rarified air that few teams have ever breathed. Trust me when I say that if we had a team that passed that much the Head Couches around this place would be all over the OC more than they already are.

If you took Crayton's stats and combined them to Williams stats without having decent production from the 3rd WR people would be screaming. Instead we have what we have. I am quite satisifed with it.

 

[CATCH17]

I can tell you that if Roy's and Miles' stats were reversed that many people on here would be ecstatic.

I can also tell you that my opinion would not be altered in the least.

I simply do not think this is a huge issue because the team as a whole is dangerous because of the passing game and all the pieces involved.

Would I like to have two 1000 yard WRs? Absolutely. Instead we have a TE who provides that. To have 2 WRs and a TE hit that kind of production is rarified air that few teams have ever breathed. Trust me when I say that if we had a team that passed that much the Head Couches around this place would be all over the OC more than they already are.

If you took Crayton's stats and combined them to Williams stats without having decent production from the 3rd WR people would be screaming. Instead we have what we have. I am quite satisifed with it.

I agree with everything you are saying and, stats aside, I expect more of a WOW factor out of Williams than he has brought.

Whether he makes it to a 1000 yards is no longer the point. But, like you, i'd love to see it.

I just want the guy to make bigtime plays when his # is called because he is more than capable of doing that.



There hasn't been a lot of Cowboys players that we all loved in the beginning because we as Cowboy fans are the worst at overanalyzing a player so hopefully Roy is just another case of a guy who steps up bigtime for us eventually.

 

[Hoofbite]

1 game is not enough to make any sort of conclusion.

Its like saying the Cardinals should just get rid of Anquan Boldin because they lit up the Packers without him.

Roy had a good half but until he starts turning in weekly performances worth noting, he should still see his time split with the other guys.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yes I know that he had one ball go threw his hands and that almost got intercepted but I think he had a solid game Saturday.

I believe he had 5 catches and most of them help set the tone in the 1st Half.

Folks, this is why I have always said despite not living up to his contract, you absolutely cannot bench Roy Williams at this time.

I believe Defensive Coordinators get extremely nervous seeing Roy Williams one on one with a Corner when they double Miles Austin because he has such a great size advantage.

I think he is poised to have some big catches this Post-Season because teams will dedicate more and more resources to Miles Austin or Felix Jones as the Playoffs continue.

I'm glad one good half of football throughout an entire season is enough not to bench him .

 

[arync]

Did you see that suit Roy had on. He looked like a pimp with the matching hat and scarf.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Roy is pretty tough in the open field.

Garrett can def. use him in some ways for these last 3 games