Roy Williams? We're focusing too much attention on the Wrong Guy

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DaBoys4Life;2864431 said:
But if you go to Witten in the clutch and still lose he's not your guy.
did Michael Jordan ever miss a clutch shot? did Troy Aikman ever miss a clutch throw? has Derek Jeter ever struck out in a clutch situation?
 

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DaBoys4Life said:
They need to be able to connect otherwise who are we going to trust in the clutch?

What do you want?

Would you like Tony Romo to force passes towards Roy Williams during training camp practices instead of focusing on correctly running the offense?

Romo and Williams spent a lot of time working together during the off-season. They just need live action reps now against defenses.

There's no need to force anything, the QB-WR dynamic will evolve naturally through camp and pre-season.
 

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Its no secret that Witten will be the most productive receiver.
 

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wayne motley;2864294 said:
I'm sick of hearing about people waiting for the Romo to Roy connection to start clicking...please...this has nothing to do with route-running or timing any more...they've had a lot of work together. Maybe Roy isn't getting open that often, or maybe the defense is focusing on him, or maybe the plays being called are focused on looking at other guys early on whom decisions must be made about...who knows...I, for one, don't care.

What I'm hearing, or reading between the lines, is that Tony Romo is completing a lot of passes in practice, moving the chains, and hitting on big plays. I could care less if it's to Roy Williams or Sam Hurd, etc. The idea was for Tony to finally be able to read the defense and throw to the open man, make the correct decisions, rather than forcing the ball to one guy who wanted it all the time and was seen as the only playmaker.

Well, Tony is doing his job, and I hope the media and fans lay off the whole Roy thing and don't bring goofy pressure to start forcing the ball to Roy W.

It's Roy's job to read and beat the coverage and get open...if he's not doing that or he's slow doing that, then Romo should check down or throw to whomever is open to catch it. We have a lot of weapons on this offense; we don't need to have Roy Williams truly take the place of TO in all that that encompasses. If a team's best CB can take Roy out of the game and Crayton, Hurd, Austin have more catches than he does, so be it.

To me, this whole camp should be more about Tony Romo reading the defense correctly and throwing the ball to the right spot, rather than what some think is the "right" player.

Take all the names out of the reports, and I think fans would be more excited about what they are reading from practice.


Agree 100%.

it's always been about Romo. not Owens or Williams. make the correct reads and get it done. I like the news so far. Could careless if Roy demands the ball more. Romo needs to throw to the open guy.
 

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Tony spreads the ball around to everyone. People talk about him only throwing to Roy 3-4 times in 11 on 11s, but in reality, he's only throwing the ball 10-15 times per practice in 11 on 11s and he's just spreading the ball around. He's throwing to Witten, Bennett, Austin, Crayton, and throwing some dumpoffs every now and then if there's good coverage. There's 6 or 7 people he's feeding the ball to and Roy gets his fair share. If you doubled his 11 on 11s throws (i.e., 20-30 throws per game) then Roy would be getting 6-8 targets a game, which translates into about 100-120 targets in a season. That is about what most #1 receivers get, particularly those with this many other legitimate receiving targets on a team (not sure there are any teams with this many legitimate receiving targets on the field at any one time).

Any issue with chemistry between Roy and Romo is completely manufactured by media. They throw to each other all practice in either against air drills, 7 on 7s or 11 on 11s. There is no issue.
 

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I can't believe I was thinking of waiting till after a preseason game to worry about where Romo is throwing the ball.
 

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theogt;2864526 said:
Tony spreads the ball around to everyone. People talk about him only throwing to Roy 3-4 times in 11 on 11s, but in reality, he's only throwing the ball 10-15 times per practice in 11 on 11s and he's just spreading the ball around. He's throwing to Witten, Bennett, Austin, Crayton, and throwing some dumpoffs every now and then if there's good coverage. There's 6 or 7 people he's feeding the ball to and Roy gets his fair share. If you doubled his 11 on 11s throws (i.e., 20-30 throws per game) then Roy would be getting 6-8 targets a game, which translates into about 100-120 targets in a season. That is about what most #1 receivers get, particularly those with this many other legitimate receiving targets on a team (not sure there are any teams with this many legitimate receiving targets on the field at any one time).

Any issue with chemistry between Roy and Romo is completely manufactured by media. They throw to each other all practice in either against air drills, 7 on 7s or 11 on 11s. There is no issue.

Grizz offered an assessment that was very similar to yours, and Matt Mosely recently commented that Roy was practicing very well.

Thus far, of all the media personalities, Tim McMahon has been the most persistent and vociferous in perpetuating the poor chemistry narrative -- probably becuase he has the most to gain; his entire shtick recently has been snarky criticism of Roy Williams.
 

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Week 1 will end all of the homerism/hate for Roy Williams. I still believe that Roy is not ready for this division. But I'm sure after week 1 if he doesn't do anything there will be more excuses given to him.
 

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Aikbach;2864476 said:
Its no secret that Witten will be the most productive receiver.


No doubt there. But SOMEBODY has to catch balls. They all can't go to Witten and swings to Barber.
 

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wayne motley;2864294 said:
It's Roy's job to read and beat the coverage and get open...if he's not doing that or he's slow doing that, then Romo should check down or throw to whomever is open to catch it. We have a lot of weapons on this offense; we don't need to have Roy Williams truly take the place of TO in all that that encompasses. If a team's best CB can take Roy out of the game and Crayton, Hurd, Austin have more catches than he does, so be it.
That's gonna be way too much common sense for some to readily accept. :)
 

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stilltheguru;2864545 said:
Week 1 will end all of the homerism/hate for Roy Williams. I still believe that Roy is not ready for this division. But I'm sure after week 1 if he doesn't do anything there will be more excuses given to him.
"Week 1 will end all of the homerism/hate for Roy Williams."
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theogt;2864526 said:
Tony spreads the ball around to everyone. People talk about him only throwing to Roy 3-4 times in 11 on 11s, but in reality, he's only throwing the ball 10-15 times per practice in 11 on 11s and he's just spreading the ball around. He's throwing to Witten, Bennett, Austin, Crayton, and throwing some dumpoffs every now and then if there's good coverage. There's 6 or 7 people he's feeding the ball to and Roy gets his fair share. If you doubled his 11 on 11s throws (i.e., 20-30 throws per game) then Roy would be getting 6-8 targets a game, which translates into about 100-120 targets in a season. That is about what most #1 receivers get, particularly those with this many other legitimate receiving targets on a team (not sure there are any teams with this many legitimate receiving targets on the field at any one time).

Any issue with chemistry between Roy and Romo is completely manufactured by media. They throw to each other all practice in either against air drills, 7 on 7s or 11 on 11s. There is no issue.


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wayne motley;2864294 said:
I'm sick of hearing about people waiting for the Romo to Roy connection to start clicking...please...this has nothing to do with route-running or timing any more...they've had a lot of work together. Maybe Roy isn't getting open that often, or maybe the defense is focusing on him, or maybe the plays being called are focused on looking at other guys early on whom decisions must be made about...who knows...I, for one, don't care.

What I'm hearing, or reading between the lines, is that Tony Romo is completing a lot of passes in practice, moving the chains, and hitting on big plays. I could care less if it's to Roy Williams or Sam Hurd, etc. The idea was for Tony to finally be able to read the defense and throw to the open man, make the correct decisions, rather than forcing the ball to one guy who wanted it all the time and was seen as the only playmaker.

Well, Tony is doing his job, and I hope the media and fans lay off the whole Roy thing and don't bring goofy pressure to start forcing the ball to Roy W.

It's Roy's job to read and beat the coverage and get open...if he's not doing that or he's slow doing that, then Romo should check down or throw to whomever is open to catch it. We have a lot of weapons on this offense; we don't need to have Roy Williams truly take the place of TO in all that that encompasses. If a team's best CB can take Roy out of the game and Crayton, Hurd, Austin have more catches than he does, so be it.

To me, this whole camp should be more about Tony Romo reading the defense correctly and throwing the ball to the right spot, rather than what some think is the "right" player.

Take all the names out of the reports, and I think fans would be more excited about what they are reading from practice.


Great post. I can't help but laugh at all of the people who keep whining that Williams isn't being targeted more in practice. At the end of last season Romo was criticized for forcing the ball to certain players and Jason Garrett was criticized for not using all of the weapons we had. Heck, I was one of the guys who criticized Garrett. Now, here we are in training camp with Romo spreading the ball around and Garrett getting everyone involved in the offense and now we have people that want to focus more on one player?

The fact that Roy Williams hasn't been the training camp star is music to my ears. I want the training camp reports we've been receiving to continue to say that Romo is spreading the ball around and hitting the open man, whoever that may be. I want to hear more about how Felix, Choice, Bennett and Austin can all make a claim for the training camp star title. We have a ton of weapons and I want all of them to be used this season.
 

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Rampage;2864360 said:
you guys are missing the point. Roy is the best wr on this team and is capable of doing very good things now that he finally has a qb. Romo should be going to him more in TC cause it's ok if they make mistakes now. you figure out things and mistakes are gonna happen when you're doing that. you don't want them making these same mistakes in the games where it will hurt us. I'll tell you right now Jerry isn't paying Roy that much to not be in sync with Romo and he will remind Garrett if they're not connecting on the level that Jerry is expecting. It's still very early but they need to get it figured out soon.
wrong answer....Romo needs to throw to who is open...this attitude puts this team RIGHT back where we were with TO. And TO is MUCH more talented than Roy...so if we were going to keep the attitude of how much Jerry is paying player X...then we could have just KEPT TO!

QBs that start to target someone based on there compensation are QBs that take sacks and throw INTs.
 

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bbailey423;2864671 said:
wrong answer....Romo needs to throw to who is open...this attitude puts this team RIGHT back where we were with TO. And TO is MUCH more talented than Roy...so if we were going to keep the attitude of how much Jerry is paying player X...then we could have just KEPT TO!

QBs that start to target someone based on there compensation are QBs that take sacks and throw INTs.
difference is Romo and Owens were already in-sync. I want Romo to throw more to Roy in practice so they can get in sync and so that he won't have to throw 20 passes a game to Roy like he did with Owens. Romo has to gel with Roy or the offense will struggle.
 

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Rampage;2864678 said:
difference is Romo and Owens were already in-sync. I want Romo to throw more to Roy in practice so they can get in sync and so that he won't have to throw 20 passes a game to Roy like he did with Owens. Romo has to gel with Roy or the offense will struggle.
I disagree...Rome has to gel with every receiving option on this team....I can already see it coming a MILE away....how will Roy handle the MEDIA when they start to question him about ONLY getting 4 catches. We don't need it...if he has 4 catches and we WIN....then the geling Romo has done with EVERYONE is working out. If he has 4 catches and we LOSE....EVERYONE needs to do better.....this team has to STOP letting the media isolate them in attempt to fracture this team and start a story line that will take on a life of it's own. We have had plenty of that the last couple of years...and until that changes, we will keep talking about a TALENTED team that cannot WIN!
 

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bbailey423;2864684 said:
I disagree...Rome has to gel with every receiving option on this team....I can already see it coming a MILE away....how will Roy handle the MEDIA when they start to question him about ONLY getting 4 catches. We don't need it...if he has 4 catches and we WIN....then the geling Romo has done with EVERYONE is working out. If he has 4 catches and we LOSE....EVERYONE needs to do better.....this team has to STOP letting the media isolate them in attempt to fracture this team and start a story line that will take on a life of it's own. We have had plenty of that the last couple of years...and until that changes, we will keep talking about a TALENTED team that cannot WIN!
he's already gelled with everyone except Roy. if they gel we're that much more dangerous on offense. if they don't we will struggle especially vs top defenses like NYG and Philly. All i'm saying is he should throw a little more to Roy since they haven't gelled yet. once they have than Romo can throw to whoever he wants at anytime.
 
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