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If everyone else is on the same page as Romo then I suspect Roy is the guilty party on most of those way off target throws. But that's an assumption.

I do think Roy is capable of putting up some good numbers. But something is way out of whack. The two talents shouldn't be that discordant.
 

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rocyaice;3049403 said:
Not all of these are on Roy. You can use the excuse of bad route running on passes where the ball is thrown completely somewhere else. But I don't think you can use that same excuse for footballs hitting him on his ankles or 10 feet above his head.
I think the one where Roy went up and Romo threw the out route was on Romo today. Roy made the right read and had a step on the corner. Romo wen the wrong way.
 

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burmafrd;3049358 said:
Scored a touchdown when the game was still in doubt. Good enough for today though I want more. All the Roy haters can kiss my @$$.
Bend over
 

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Doomsay;3049411 said:
Yeah, except 3 nobody's seem to be able to catch Romo's passes just fine. The problem is wooden clown-foot Roy.
The first half Romo had accuracy problems. He missed Roy twice on a throw over his head and then throwing behind Roy. Second half is where Roy didn't read things on option routes the same as Romo.
 

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rocyaice;3049403 said:
Not all of these are on Roy. You can use the excuse of bad route running on passes where the ball is thrown completely somewhere else. But I don't think you can use that same excuse for footballs hitting him on his ankles or 10 feet above his head.

Why doesn't any other receiver consistently have these problems? Because Roy can't run his routes or break them off properly.
 

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Doomsay;3049421 said:
Why doesn't any other receiver consistently have these problems? Because Roy can't run his routes or break them off properly.
It's really not a hard concept to understand.
 

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theogt;3049373 said:
Doesn't make it not true.

It's amazing how so many throws to him are so off target. Maybe it's Roy's fault. I think it's just strange coincidence so far.


Early in the season, with Romo being a little off, it was hard to tell who is to blame.

There is still no way of telling 100% one way or another who is to blame (and most likely; its a combination of the two)... but Romo is hitting Hurd/Crayton/Austin/Witten accurately... but is missing with Williams.

They panned to the sideline to show Williams and Romo talking; wonder how that conversation went.
 

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speedkilz88;3049420 said:
The first half Romo had accuracy problems. He missed Roy twice on a throw over his head and then throwing behind Roy. Second half is where Roy didn't read things on option routes the same as Romo.

Again, Tony's passes seem to be close to every other receiver - even if not perfect - Roy is yards away from where the ball is thrown.
 

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Doomsay;3049421 said:
Why doesn't any other receiver consistently have these problems? Because Roy can't run his routes or break them off properly.

then... WHY IS HE GETTING OPEN? :rolleyes:
 

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Vintage;3049427 said:
They panned to the sideline to show Williams and Romo talking; wonder how that conversation went.
I think that was after the option route where Romo threw outside and Roy went up. Can't know for sure, but I still think Roy made the right option there. If Romo hits him in stride, Roy has only one safety between him and the endzone. Possibly a TD there.

Then if Romo isn't completely off on those other two "drops" by Roy, you're looking at 5 catches for 80+ yards and 2 TDs.
 

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a few things...

Run him on Slants, Posts, and Crossing Routes.

The first two throws were on Romo, who was high and behind Roy. The missed slant was on Roy, who didn't fight through the coverage to try and catch the ball...he almost allowed an INT. Later in the game, on a few plays, it looked as if Roy ran the wrong route.

They were on the same page a few times today. It is still a work in progress.

I want Roy and Romo to practice together during the week....Give me the 10 yd slant, the 10 yd crossing route, and the 10 yd post. Also during the game, the two should be discussing plays back and forth and trying to be on the same page.
 

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Doomsay;3049431 said:
Again, Tony's passes seem to be close to every other receiver - even if not perfect - Roy is yards away from where the ball is thrown.
He was around 50% at halftime from what I've read. The one that was behind Roy is pretty obvious to be on the qb since it was a route that you need to lead the receiver.
 

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Ren;3049438 said:
then... WHY IS HE GETTING OPEN? :rolleyes:
If he's not where the quarterback expects, it doesn't really matter if he's open.
 

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theogt;3049414 said:
I think the one where Roy went up and Romo threw the out route was on Romo today. Roy made the right read and had a step on the corner. Romo wen the wrong way.

That was a strange looking miss. Romo looked pissed as he walked off - I didn't get the sense that Tony was going to point to his chest at any moment indicating that it was on him. Tony can't wait for Roy to make late breaks even if they get him free of the defender, I'm sure that he was supposed to get to the corner of the endzone on that one.
 

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Doomsay;3049448 said:
That was a strange looking miss. Romo looked pissed as he walked off - I didn't get the sense that Tony was going to point to his chest at any moment indicating that it was on him. Tony can't wait for Roy to make late breaks even if they get him free of the defender, I'm sure that he was supposed to get to the corner of the endzone on that one.
I don't believe that was the one he was talking about.
 

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Cover 2;3049447 said:
If he's not where the quarterback expects, it doesn't really matter if he's open.

That's a lack of communication, not talent... which just supports my original point
 

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speedkilz88;3049445 said:
He was around 50% at halftime from what I've read. The one that was behind Roy is pretty obvious to be on the qb since it was a route that you need to lead the receiver.

Look, the math is simple - a vet receiver with single coverage has trouble getting open and making plays when all others don't - same QB, different results. Roy has problems in this scenario, not Tony.
 

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Doomsay;3049458 said:
Look, the math is simple - a vet receiver with single coverage has trouble getting open and making plays when all others don't - same QB, different results. Roy has problems in this scenario, not Tony.
Romo is missing passes to Witten now too... It's not just Roy.
 
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