LarryCanadian;1640317 said:
Sorry guys but i have to disagree with you on that particular play. I understand the concept, I understand taking on the blocker, and I understand funneling the player inside to other defenders (although as the SS I'd hope that isn't your job for the most part since, that is job of DT, DE's and LB's first. From the angle (and I wish I was techy enough to put a clip of the play on the net) Roy had a direct lane to the runner with the ball. Again the camera angle might affect the look (depth perception was hard from that shot), BUT the guard didn't look like he was in front of the runner at all. Roy had to step to the left to meet the guard head on, that's why I was surprised. I thought Roy could have gone right past the guard and still had the runner on his inside shoulder. He took himself out of tackling position when he saw the guard coming to him. I admit you can't tell who is behind Roy, but it sure LOOKED like a terrible decision. It was my opinion that Roy, as a Pro Bowler, should have been able to cut inside the guard and make a play on the runner. He looked like he took himself out of the play. I expected more.
I need to watch the game again, but that play really stood out to me.
Larry
I hate to tell you but you are wrong Larry.
The outside guys MUST keep outside containment. If he steps inside of the guard and the RB runs to the outside.. its Roy's fault for allowing the runner to the outside. ILBers play inside-out... OLB's, CB's, and Safeties play outside-in.
If Roy cuts inside and the RB wind's up to the outside... the CB is the only player left to make the tackle. If Roy cuts outside and forces the RB back to the inside... both ILBers should be right there to make the tackle.
IMHO, he did exactly what he was suppose to do.
Outside containment is something that I worried about a lot with Anthony Spencer because he routinely got sealed off to the inside and allowed the RB to get outside of him and break for good gains during the preseason. He seemed to do much better at this against the Giants.
In this defense EVERYONE has a specific gap assignment. Roy has a gap assignment as well when he's up closer to the line of scrimmage. If any player does not maintain their gap responsibility.. the defense has a huge hole in it. Exhibit of this would be the 44 yard run where Akin bailed to the outside and left a huge hole to the inside when Ware and Roy were both on the outside forcing the runner back to the inside.
Larry, if you rewatched the game.. tell me the time of the game and I'll post the play. I'm almost certain that we're talking about the same play.