Rumor: Bush WILL NOT play for New Orleans

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SkinsandTerps said:
Not saying he cant be replaced. I am saying that That is a ton of money to tie up in a position when there are so many other holes.

Bush is an incredible athlete. So is Michael Vick.

My problem with Bush is the talent he faced overall as a player. Not to mention the talent he was surrounded by.

I hope that he makes me a believer. I simply am not sold.

That's fine that you're not sold yet, but how can you discount him because of the talent around him, or the talent he played. Everyone in the draft played against college talent. That's what scouts are looking at. What a guy did in college, his measurables, and how his talent will translate into the NFL game. Taking all that into account, 21 out of 26 teams polled by the DMN said Bush was the #1 player on their boards.

What do you know that they don't? You think it's because he played against bad defenses? Everyone plays against inferior talent at some point in their college career. He ran up 513 total yards against Fresno State last year. I don't care who you are, that's ridiculous. Did I mention the Notre Dame game? The Rose Bowl, admittedly not his best game, he still had over 200 total yards... one costly fumble, but that was his first ALL YEAR!
 

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summerisfunner said:
no way Bush is the next Gale




hehe, but he doesn't need an Oline to be successful ;)



I think Gale Sayers is overated. People say "the next Gale Sayers". IMO Tony Dorsett was better then Sayers. And Bush is VERY similiar to Dorsett.



IS he the Next Dorsett/Sayers? Not yet.


CAN he be? Absolutely. He DOES have the skills to be just as good as those two.
 

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The Rose Bowl, admittedly not his best game, he still had over 200 total yards... one costly fumble, but that was his first ALL YEAR!


He fumbled against Fresno St too.
 

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I think Gale Sayers is overated. People say "the next Gale Sayers". IMO Tony Dorsett was better then Sayers. And Bush is VERY similiar to Dorsett.



IS he the Next Dorsett/Sayers? Not yet.


CAN he be? Absolutely. He DOES have the skills to be just as good as those two.

I'm just wondering if Bush will even be able to beat out Deuce
 

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Based on my opinion, Chico.


Why are you here anyway? Oh that's right. Skins fans have nothing to get excited about on draft day.


J/k.


And you obviously didn't read my post. Please go back and read it again. I don't feel like repeating myself.

Again based on what ?

What makes him the closest ? What makes him appear "IYO" the closest thing to a sure thing ?

Its the freakin' PAC 10, Scrubs, and ND.

IMO, he is on the verge of being a huge bust.
 

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summerisfunner said:
this is what I'm saying, I'm not saying they won't take Bush, just with Deuce, they'll be very willing to trade down to acquire more picks and use their 1st elsewhere, and they'll probably find a very willing trade partner in San Fran

and sure thing? Mario Williams, but he's a Texan

If I was the Saints... I'd be much more willing to upgrade to Bush, try to trade Deuce for whatever I could get, and fill holes with those picks. If SF needs a RB, trade them Deuce, get one of their picks... that's what you were going to get anyway.
 

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Again based on what ?

What makes him the closest ? What makes him appear "IYO" the closest thing to a sure thing ?

Its the freakin' PAC 10, Scrubs, and ND.

IMO, he is on the verge of being a huge bust.




:rolleyes:


What makes you think he ISN'T?


Why don't you go to ES and let the cowboys fans have a discussion. You guys are here all the f'in time. Let us have draft day. Please.
 

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That's fine that you're not sold yet, but how can you discount him because of the talent around him, or the talent he played. Everyone in the draft played against college talent. That's what scouts are looking at. What a guy did in college, his measurables, and how his talent will translate into the NFL game. Taking all that into account, 21 out of 26 teams polled by the DMN said Bush was the #1 player on their boards.

What do you know that they don't? You think it's because he played against bad defenses? Everyone plays against inferior talent at some point in their college career. He ran up 513 total yards against Fresno State last year. I don't care who you are, that's ridiculous. Did I mention the Notre Dame game? The Rose Bowl, admittedly not his best game, he still had over 200 total yards... one costly fumble, but that was his first ALL YEAR!

Polls out of Dallas ? Come on man. Yet 10 teams passed on Big Ben, how many on TO, how many on Randy Moss, how many on ... the list goes on and on.

Notre Dame ? More coaching than talent on that team.

Sounds like Westbrook more and more.
 

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peplaw06 said:
Speaking of :jerk:

you don't think Nawlins is thinking about that? after all, they're going to be investing millions in the guy, and with the 2nd overall selection could have their choice of just about anybody in this draft
 

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Rack said:
:rolleyes:


What makes you think he ISN'T?


Why don't you go to ES and let the cowboys fans have a discussion. You guys are here all the f'in time. Let us have draft day. Please.

Not to mention it's f'in 3:30 on the East Coast. You're gonna be up a while if you're staying up till the Skins are on the clock:D
 

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Rack said:
:rolleyes:


What makes you think he ISN'T?


Why don't you go to ES and let the cowboys fans have a discussion. You guys are here all the f'in time. Let us have draft day. Please.

Because 90% (or more) of the time he faced inferior overall teams.

Have your draft day. How am I impeding that exactly ?
 

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Not to mention it's f'in 3:30 on the East Coast. You're gonna be up a while if you're staying up till the Skins are on the clock:D

I dont sleep. ;)
 

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Polls out of Dallas ? Come on man. Yet 10 teams passed on Big Ben, how many on TO, how many on Randy Moss, how many on ... the list goes on and on.

Notre Dame ? More coaching than talent on that team.

Sounds like Westbrook more and more.

It's so easy to discount another's facts in an argument... Bring some of your own. I'd like to see em. Did you watch Bush play this year? Just the Rose Bowl... maybe the ND game... maybe.

BTW the DMN poll was 26 teams. Obviously the top 5 aren't going to say who they've got rated #1... they have to pick up there. But the ones who won't be picking up there say Bush. Why does it matter who did the poll? Would it mean more to you if the Washington Post did it?
 

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Because 90% (or more) of the time he faced inferior overall teams.

Have your draft day. How am I impeding that exactly ?

Who would those teams be?? Texas... other teams in the Top 25 they faced... ND, Fresno, UCLA, Oregon, AZ State?? 90% huh?
 

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Who would those teams be?? Texas... other teams in the Top 25 they faced... ND, Fresno, UCLA, Oregon, AZ State?? 90% huh?

And who did they face in the Championship ? And the results ?

Hmm...
 

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And who did they face in the Championship ? And the results ?

Hmm...
Results... 41-38 UT... VY runs it in for the winning score with 19 seconds left.

You're right, Bush is definitely a NFL bust, nice argument
 

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It's so easy to discount another's facts in an argument... Bring some of your own. I'd like to see em. Did you watch Bush play this year? Just the Rose Bowl... maybe the ND game... maybe.

BTW the DMN poll was 26 teams. Obviously the top 5 aren't going to say who they've got rated #1... they have to pick up there. But the ones who won't be picking up there say Bush. Why does it matter who did the poll? Would it mean more to you if the Washington Post did it?

Hmmm...

Maybe USA Today or ESPN or SI or Idont know lets say the Sporting news.

And I have seen every game Reggie Bush played in this past season.

I am not saying that the guy isnt a playmaker on the college level. I am questioning how that will carry over into the NFL.
 
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