Rumor Per PFT: Dez to get franchise tag

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I have counted three maybe four games this year a CB who had no business taking Dez out of his game did so. Franchise tag is appropriate move by Dallas.

Look through the stats even Calvin Johnson has 3-4 games where he is pedestrian. WR is a lot harder than go run this route and out run the dude assigned you. Sometimes its the defense, sometimes its your teams gameplan, or your QB.
 

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Draft picks can be used to draft receivers, go figure.

Yeah because there have never been number 1 draft picks that have never turned into a Bust.

Williams and Beasley. How did those guys do today? Did they beat their single coverage? Or was it only Dez? My TV blanked out after a while.

I'm sure if we lose Dez, and teams load the Box. Those guys can carry us.
 

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Yup, he still gets his money, and like I said screws us. We should have fun rolling out on Sunday with Williams, Beasley and Harris.

LOL draft picks can be used to draft WRs and next years draft is STACKED in terms of WRs (cbssports projections has 8 WRs in their top 50). Beyond that, who is the elite WR on the Packers, or the Saints, or the Seahawks, or the Pats. So many good teams in this league don't have an elite WR, yet they can be elite. Right now we are getting by with Dez being outside the top 10, do we really want to bet the farm on him being elite the next 10 years if that is what it comes too?
 

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Yep and elite receivers grow on trees.

That's my issue here. Generally speaking, I'm a believer that receiver is a complementary position that, while glamorous, isn't a spot that drives the team. When you have an elite QB, they can typically get upper-echelon performances out of the passing game. Look at the way we rotated nonchalantly from Owens to Austin to Robinson to Bryant. Look at how Green Bay has let James Jones and Greg Jennings leave without skipping a beat.

With that said, we have an aging QB and I'm not sure we go into "cap-savings economic" mode with his primary weapons at this point in his career. It's kinda like Denver. Peyton could survive without D. Thomas, but aren't you going to do everything you can to keep that electric pairing in tact until the day Peyton hangs 'em up?

We see all these threads about re-signing guys like Rolando McClain, and deservedly so. But we've got the NFL's leading rusher -- by a mile -- and one of the league's top receivers on the other side of the ball, and I don't know that I let them walk to keep other players who aren't nearly as proven.
 

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Yeah because there have never been number 1 draft picks that have never turned into a Bust.

Williams and Beasley. How did those guys do today? Did they beat their single coverage? Or was it only Dez? My TV blanked out after a while.

I'm sure if we lose Dez, and teams load the Box. Those guys can carry us.

That's the thing. If we let Dez walk, we still need to replace him with a leading receiver. We could probably survive with a cast of complementary types, kind of like the year Laurent Robinson emerged as our leading guy because of injuries, but I'd hate to hang our hat on that approach.

In the case of Robinson, we saw Romo *create* a lot of his touchdown catches. You're seeing the reverse with Bryant. He took a pass that was a yard behind the line of scrimmage to the house today, and outrun/outmuscled guys for a 60-yard TD on another play. Your run-of-the-mill receiver isn't making those plays, obviously.
 

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Yeah because there have never been number 1 draft picks that have never turned into a Bust.

Williams and Beasley. How did those guys do today? Did they beat their single coverage? Or was it only Dez? My TV blanked out after a while.

I'm sure if we lose Dez, and teams load the Box. Those guys can carry us.

Oh I am sure there are #1 WRs who go bust, I seem to remember a guy with the initials RW going bust right after we gave him a huge contract with a lot of guaranteed money and traded a lot of picks for him (money and picks that could have been used to draft better WRs). If the reports are correct, we offered to make him a top 5 paid WR... if he doesn't want that, fine, but I am not prepared to bet this teams entire future on him.
 

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That's the thing. If we let Dez walk, we still need to replace him with a leading receiver. We could probably survive with a cast of complementary types, kind of like the year Laurent Robinson emerged as our leading guy because of injuries, but I'd hate to hang our hat on that approach.

I agree, LR wasn't your typical 2nd-3rd WR. He had great, amazing chemistry with Romo, and just knew how to get open. I don't see that with Williams, Beasley, or Harris.

Williams will make your occasional 1 or 2 great plays a game, and disappear(If he makes any at all). Beasley is good for maybe 2-3 1st downs, and then teams catch up to his "Out-Route", and Harris, will run his bubble screen until it becomes to dangerous, and we get picked off for 6.

We don't have the weapons here, and number 1's don't come by as easy.
 
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LOL draft picks can be used to draft WRs and next years draft is STACKED in terms of WRs (cbssports projections has 8 WRs in their top 50). Beyond that, who is the elite WR on the Packers, or the Saints, or the Seahawks, or the Pats. So many good teams in this league don't have an elite WR, yet they can be elite. Right now we are getting by with Dez being outside the top 10, do we really want to bet the farm on him being elite the next 10 years if that is what it comes too?

It's great that you're excited about drafting receivers next year. I'd rather go with defense and keep a known commodity on our team. That's just me though.
 

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LOL draft picks can be used to draft WRs and next years draft is STACKED in terms of WRs (cbssports projections has 8 WRs in their top 50). Beyond that, who is the elite WR on the Packers, or the Saints, or the Seahawks, or the Pats. So many good teams in this league don't have an elite WR, yet they can be elite. Right now we are getting by with Dez being outside the top 10, do we really want to bet the farm on him being elite the next 10 years if that is what it comes too?

You disrespect Jordy Nelson. Cobb is a great number 2 as well, some could argue he could be a a real cheap number 1. Jordy is ELITE.

Saint's have Jimmy. Don't let the "TE" next to his name fool you. He wanted WR money, and wanted to be considered 1, remember? Colston is hot and cold yes, but when he's hot, he's hot.

Seahawks get off, on the fact they have a top 5 running back, and a running QB. No need for elite WR's, just get open, and play defense for Wilson.
 

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Oh I am sure there are #1 WRs who go bust, I seem to remember a guy with the initials RW going bust right after we gave him a huge contract with a lot of guaranteed money and traded a lot of picks for him (money and picks that could have been used to draft better WRs). If the reports are correct, we offered to make him a top 5 paid WR... if he doesn't want that, fine, but I am not prepared to bet this teams entire future on him.

So lets pretend Dez, had to leave the game. Jags stack the box. He makes them pay for that? Do we win? Do we win by as much as we did?
 

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It's great that you're excited about drafting receivers next year. I'd rather go with defense and keep a known commodity on our team. That's just me though.

$12 million can also be used to find defense, and Dez is worth more than just a first. If it is true, and we don't have much in the way of cap issues next year (I have heard we can make $50 in space relatively simply) then fine keep Dez, if he is willing to have a reasonable deal that is half guaranteed money. If we either have to have Dez, or McClain, Melton, Durant, and a few others on defense... then I will take the later.
 

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$12 million can also be used to find defense, and Dez is worth more than just a first. If it is true, and we don't have much in the way of cap issues next year (I have heard we can make $50 in space relatively simply) then fine keep Dez, if he is willing to have a reasonable deal that is half guaranteed money. If we either have to have Dez, or McClain, Melton, Durant, and a few others on defense... then I will take the later.

Tell Romo, to give back some of his money. He knows damn well without Dez we are road kill. His contract holds us up as well.
 

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You disrespect Jordy Nelson. Cobb is a great number 2 as well, some could argue he could be a a real cheap number 1. Jordy is ELITE.

Saint's have Jimmy. Don't let the "TE" next to his name fool you. He wanted WR money, and wanted to be considered 1, remember? Colston is hot and cold yes, but when he's hot, he's hot.

Seahawks get off, on the fact they have a top 5 running back, and a running QB. No need for elite WR's, just get open, and play defense for Wilson.

Aaron Rodgers has made Jordy Nelson. On any other team Jordy Nelson has 750 yards a season. For proof of that just look at what happened when Rodgers went down last season. He has one good game week 11 (after a mediocre week 10) and then 5 straight bad to mediocre games.

I will give you Jimmy, but still no elite WRs. And yea, Seattle and Pats don't have elite WRs either (and the Pats were find last year without Gronk doing much)
 

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Franchise tag doesn't mean that's what he's gonna get. They may still work out a deal. Who was it? Didn't we franchise Ken Hamlin and later on give him a deal that same offseason?
 

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Ok, I agree, but we do not. So just answer me. Who makes the plays today that Dez did, if Dez had to leave in the 1st Quarter.?

Laurent Robinson. LOL I don't know probably no one. Probably we have a lot more sustained drives relying on Murray more. We probably score a few less points but oh well our defense wins the game for us like it has several times this year.
 

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You disrespect Jordy Nelson. Cobb is a great number 2 as well, some could argue he could be a a real cheap number 1. Jordy is ELITE.

Saint's have Jimmy. Don't let the "TE" next to his name fool you. He wanted WR money, and wanted to be considered 1, remember? Colston is hot and cold yes, but when he's hot, he's hot.

Seahawks get off, on the fact they have a top 5 running back, and a running QB. No need for elite WR's, just get open, and play defense for Wilson.

Graham got franchised this year. Then the Saints went ahead and signed him to a long term deal before the season. If the Cowboys franchise Dez, they would likely work out an agreement as well before the season.
 

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Tell Romo, to give back some of his money. He knows damn well without Dez we are road kill. His contract holds us up as well.

I don't know about that. Dez seems to need Romo more than Romo needs him. I've seen Romo get Laurent Robinson a 30+ million dollar contract. Dez has been GHOST since Romo went down.
 
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