Rumor: We have inquired about the number one pick

[Redball Express]

Me too


But wouldn't it be funny though?!

You mean like funny sad?

Yes.

When they have repeatedly blown drafting or signing FA CB/Safety such as Roy Wiiliams and Claiborne and Brandon Carr and Henry and Terrence Newman..

you have to wonder if its just not in our wheelhouse.

I mean we had the same issues back in the 60's until they signed Herb Adderly and again in the 90's until they signed Deon Sanders.

Its just been one of this positions we haven't excelled at developing.

So I really don't want to draft high on one.

 

[Gaede]

You mean like funny sad?

Yes.

When they have repeatedly blown drafting or signing FA CB/Safety such as Roy Wiiliams and Claiborne and Brandon Carr and Henry and Terrence Newman..

you have to wonder if its just not in our wheelhouse.

I mean we had the same issues back in the 60's until they signed Herb Adderly and again in the 90's until they signed Deon Sanders.

Its just been one of this positions we haven't excelled at developing.

So I really don't want to draft high on one.

Yes, exactly.

 

[RS12]

 

[DFWJC]

It's preposterous, but the closer you get to the draft the deeper the myopia. People lose rational thought
J/k

 

[big dog cowboy]

A month ago it wasn't even on table...you told me so

I'll say it again......there is zero chance we trade up to #1. Put it in 3" headlines.

 

[kevm3]

Wentz has to have the best marketers I've seen for a college qb because he was originally a late 1st rounder to a 2nd rounder and now he's the #1 qb in the draft. What exactly has he been doing to make him this unbelievable qb option or is it more because he has the measurables?

 

[AzorAhai]

Wentz has to have the best marketers I've seen for a college qb because he was originally a late 1st rounder to a 2nd rounder and now he's the #1 qb in the draft. What exactly has he been doing to make him this unbelievable qb option or is it more because he has the measurables?

It's because the teams don't give a damn what Kiper, Mcshay or Mayock say in December or April. The teams set their own boards and the draft experts adjust accordingly to what they hear. They are the ones pushing the "risers" and "fallers" thing, not the teams. The teams do their homework and eventually after they have all the facts on a player put together their board.

 

[fortdick]

A QB means everything. If Romo is really at the end of his career, it could be 10 years before we have this chance again.

What is a strong roster without a starting caliber QB? The LA Rams.

If Romo is done, why will it be ten years? if the team is as bad as a lot of folks here say, we should be picking in the top 5 for years to come. We have too many holes to fill to move up. it is claimed we have a drunk GM and a stupid head coach, a QB made of glass and no pass rush and the worst secondary ever to play the game. We should find ourselves in this spot every year!

I do agree, we may not pick this high again for a while, but it will be because the team is winning!

 

[BigStar]

I'll say it again......there is zero chance we trade up to #1. Put it in 3" headlines.

Probably right, but facts shmacks

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You ask why?

Farve to Rodgers

Peyton to Luck

That's why.

But is there a Rodgers or Luck among the candidates?

To be fair Rodgers fell to the 20s and right into the lap of GB. Way different then Luck being number 1 overall and replacing Manning

 

[conner01]

Luckily we have Romo, so the idea of trading up is pretty dumb. Why mortgage the draft for a future QB if you weaken the team that he will be taking over?

I'd trade to 3 and lose one pick. Not trading to 1 and losing multiple.

Why trade in front of yourself?
I get the not wanting to give up picks, don't like it myself. But what do you think the cost will be in a couple years when you are trading up from the middle of the pack and giving up the better part of two drafts. It's pay me now or pay much, much more later

 

[robjay04]

If Romo is done, why will it be ten years? if the team is as bad as a lot of folks here say, we should be picking in the top 5 for years to come. We have too many holes to fill to move up. it is claimed we have a drunk GM and a stupid head coach, a QB made of glass and no pass rush and the worst secondary ever to play the game. We should find ourselves in this spot every year!

I do agree, we may not pick this high again for a while, but it will be because the team is winning!

Were you around between Aikman and Romo? You just don't find a franchise QB because you pick it's not easy, not every season there is one rated high enough. If we like a player enough to spend a pick 4 on, it's time. I am 30 years old, since I have been watching football obsessively(early 90s), I don't recall any of the following teams ever finding a franchise quarterback...

Browns, Texans, Jaguars, Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos, Bears, Vikings, Bucs, Commanders, Cardinals, Rams.

A couple of those teams may have found a free agent bandaid but none have found a player to make a long term investment in without regretting it a year later.

That's half of the NFL and the way college football is today, it's only going to get harder to find a quarterback that can transition to the NFL.

I don't think any single rookie at 4 is going to have an impact next year besides maybe Zeke so you might as well pull the trigger.

 

[Fredd]

Anyone think (like me) that Philly is trying force the hand of Dallas and to get that kook Jones to trade away their future to get to #1? No way I trade up, no way....let the draft come to you, don't get cutesy....so what if the top 3 are tonsil, wentz and ramsey...take the next guy on the list or have philly or SF trade up for goff

personally, I would be floating it out there that dallas WILL take a QB, and then watch philly and SF kills themselves to get ahead of us...will get ramsey to drop to #4

 

[fortdick]

Were you around between Aikman and Romo? You just don't find a franchise QB because you pick it's not easy, not every season there is one rated high enough. If we like a player enough to spend a pick 4 on, it's time. I am 30 years old, since I have been watching football obsessively(early 90s), I don't recall any of the following teams ever finding a franchise quarterback...

Browns, Texans, Jaguars, Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos, Bears, Vikings, Bucs, Commanders, Cardinals, Rams.

A couple of those teams may have found a free agent bandaid but none have found a player to make a long term investment in without regretting it a year later.

That's half of the NFL and the way college football is today, it's only going to get harder to find a quarterback that can transition to the NFL.

I don't think any single rookie at 4 is going to have an impact next year besides maybe Zeke so you might as well pull the trigger.

Dude, I am over 60, and remember Staubach and Morton platooning, so let me give you a little wisdom. You say if we don't take a franchise QB, we are doomed and won't get the chance to pick this high again for a long time. But if we are doomed, won't we be picking high every year? Your argument doesn't make sense.

And don't run with scissors!

 

[Alexander]

If they make an unreasonable and idiotic trade up, it will be for Ramsey. Not a QB.

 

[CF74]

And we said you can have this 4 and our 3rd, but Das It!!!!

 

[Sarge]

We're not trading up.

 

[robjay04]

Dude, I am over 60, and remember Staubach and Morton platooning, so let me give you a little wisdom. You say if we don't take a franchise QB, we are doomed and won't get the chance to pick this high again for a long time. But if we are doomed, won't we be picking high every year? Your argument doesn't make sense.

And don't run with scissors!

Even without a franchise quarterback, a team can finish between 5-11 and 8-8 and never get a chance at a top prospect. Or they can just bust on different players over and over. We are in a prime position to take a top ranked quarterback this season and we will have a glaring need within the next 1-3 years. We can also let that quarterback sit and learn before throwing him to the wolves. If we don't take a quarterback now....when? Once Romo retires? We tried that with Aikman and failed miserably.

Romo is essentially on a two year deal, after two years he will be released or restructured. I hope Romo plays his best football during that span but I don't want this team to be stuck like we were last season ever again. If there was a JJ Watt or Julio Jones in this draft, obviously you take him but there is not. Our choices are a couple quarterbacks, a db without a position, an injured linebacker, a running back and a defensive end by all accounts does not have elite potential. This is not a great draft on the top end.

Anyways you seem like a real winner, 60 years old making personal attacks behind a keyboard on a forum designed to talk football. Stick to football talk.

 

[fortdick]

Even without a franchise quarterback, a team can finish between 5-11 and 8-8 and never get a chance at a top prospect. Or they can just bust on different players over and over. We are in a prime position to take a top ranked quarterback this season and we will have a glaring need within the next 1-3 years. We can also let that quarterback sit and learn before throwing him to the wolves. If we don't take a quarterback now....when? Once Romo retires? We tried that with Aikman and failed miserably.

Romo is essentially on a two year deal, after two years he will be released or restructured. I hope Romo plays his best football during that span but I don't want this team to be stuck like we were last season ever again. If there was a JJ Watt or Julio Jones in this draft, obviously you take him but there is not. Our choices are a couple quarterbacks, a db without a position, an injured linebacker, a running back and a defensive end by all accounts does not have elite potential. This is not a great draft on the top end.

Anyways you seem like a real winner, 60 years old making personal attacks behind a keyboard on a forum designed to talk football. Stick to football talk.

I must have struck a nerve. I didn't make a personal attack, just pointing out your argument made no sense. You tried to represent that, at 30, you have some vast base of experience that makes you really knowledgeable. Then you flex up about keyboards and stuff. Saying my response was not about football is obfuscation. I just didn't agree with you, so I must have been making a personal attack. Is that it?

 

[sbark]

Hard to say what the Cowboys will do...........Garretts offense is predicated on pre-snap read, and Romo in just the last few years has either jumped up in recognition, or finally got the release of the reigns to adapt on the go...or maybe because Dez etc caught up to him
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but I think Garrett etc loves Wentz for the same reason.........there are those saying he locks onto his receiver, but then there are scouts saying he is so good coming out of a pro offense, WCO style, that his pre snap reads makes him appear to "lock on". His TD/ Int. ratio confirms that, at any level, if you lock on and force it--you throw picks
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from a blog.............CW is being completely discounted for his presnap read ability by a lot of so called experts. This will be a skill that will be a major plus at the next level once he gets the speed and the nuances of disguises down of the NFL game. I am not sure how something is a negative when he is throwing to wide open receivers. I would be more concerned if he was so fixated on his presnap read he was forcing the ball. He didn't come across as doing that. He checked off if coverage acted different than he expected. He was so on top of his scouting game, he knew what defenses were going to do before they knew what they were going to do. I would love to see him in an Erhardt-Perkins type offense where it is all pre-snap reads and audibles change the route trees. He would tear teams up. There is a reason guys like Tom Brady have been so successful for so long. He isn't the most athletically gifted QB, there just isn't many better than him in the pre-snap read department and working off what the defense will give him. I am not saying CW is the next Tom Brady, but in the right system that allows him to use that strength, he could explode into something very special.