Run On OL

[Chuck 54]

17 picks before us.
3 LT prospects, 1 RT prospect, 2 OG prospects.

For those six to go before us, that means over 35% of picks will be used on OL.

Hard for me to imagine no matter how players are rated overall...QB, RB, WR, TE, DT, DE, LB, CB, S......but we think 35% of picks through first 17 will go to OL, including 3 picks on OG and RT?

I think folks will be pleasantly surprised to see two of these guys there for the Cowboys; I think fans will be shocked when Cowboys go in another direction or even trade down unless Fluker is there. I can see us going RT at 18 because we totally stink there, but I really believe we will find a guard to compete and groom later. I don't see the team giving up on last season's free agents and Kowalski after one year of transition and injuries, even though we may hope so.

It is proven every year that other than LT teams can be sure to do two things:

1. After the super blue chippers, usually 5-7 players, teams become very unpredictable and look for impact guys who score TDs or improve defense.

2. Teams do not value RTs or OGs or Cs until later in round one when they start viewing their picks like their 2nd rounders.

It won't surprise me to see a RT or OG there at 18, but it also won't surprise me to see Dallas wait for other rounds to address the OL.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

I hope a good OL is available and we take him, much to the chagrine of all the mediots who want Dallas to do something daring and stupid

 

[ThreeandOut]

We're not going to have a shot at the three LT's. It's looking more likely that Cooper and Fluker may not be available either because of their ability to play multiple positions. I think the most likely candidate to fall to 18 is Warmack because he is a OG only.

 

[Doomsday101]

I know everyone focus is on the 1st rd but looking at this draft on the OL it runs pretty deep with some very good talent that can be had in the 2nd rd on. I'm very encouraged looking at OL that the Cowboys will be able to add quality to the OL

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I know everyone focus is on the 1st rd but looking at this draft on the OL it runs pretty deep with some very good talent that can be had in the 2nd rd on. I'm very encouraged looking at OL that the Cowboys will be able to add quality to the OL

This.

I think starting guards/center can be found well into the 3rd round.

 

[Doomsday101]

This.

I think starting guards/center can be found well into the 3rd round.

Yep, not saying I don't want to get an OL player earlier but I don't want Dallas reaching or passing over top talent at another position when I know how deep this draft in on the OL.

 

[Cowboys22]

I don't care how deep the draft is at OL, if they are still rating OL prospects 1-3 rounds lower than most teams are, there will never be one at the top of their board. The best bet for an OL being at the top of their board may just be in the 1st round if one does fall to them.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't care how deep the draft is at OL, if they are still rating OL prospects 1-3 rounds lower than most teams are, there will never be one at the top of their board. The best bet for an OL being at the top of their board may just be in the 1st round if one does fall to them.

Why not none of the 90's OL was a 1st rd pick Not Eric Williams, or Larry Allen not one of them were but they were top talent, there is quality and that is what it is all about not what round that is why it does matter how deep this draft is along the OL.

If a top OL is sitting there at 18 grab him but you don't reach for a player no matter what position he plays. Passing up top talent at another position because you panic on OL is dumb. There are some very good players who will be there in the 2nd and 3rd who have top potential

 

[cowboysooner]

Don't be the last guy to buy.

It would be foolish to take the 7th offensive lineman if the first safety, 43 defensive end or 3rd defensive tackle is on the board.

 

[cowboysooner]

I know everyone focus is on the 1st rd but looking at this draft on the OL it runs pretty deep with some very good talent that can be had in the 2nd rd on. I'm very encouraged looking at OL that the Cowboys will be able to add quality to the OL

If this draft had deep, abundant talent at oline in the second and third rounds then 10 of the top 12 teams would not be considering drafting a lineman.

 

[ufcrules1]

I also think the draft is deep at Oline and we can easily find talent a little further back or into the 2nd round. I'm hoping like hell we can land Sheldon Richardson at 18 though.

 

[Doomsday101]

If this draft had deep, abundant talent at oline in the second and third rounds then 10 of the top 12 teams would not be considering drafting a lineman.

That is not true, teams still have needs and they will draft to those needs with BPA that does not deminish the talent in the 2nd and 3rd. Hell some of the grades that put up and the combines are close to those sitting in rd 1 of the draft. There are some very good players along the OL.

I know if Dallas does not draft an OL in rd 1 many here will be hollering about it but reaching for any player has gotten us in big trouble while we end up passing on top talent. I want to get OL what I don't want is passing up qaulity player because the Cowboys panic on the OL

 

[ferrispata]

I don't think JG will allow any "reaching" this year. We will nab Cooper or Warmack if they are there at 18 (not Fluker though). Otherwise, I think they save OL until 2nd round or later. No Cooper or Warmack, then they will be grabbing BPA, whether that is a DT or WR or DE. I don't know why, but I feel they will pass on Vaccaro if they stay put at 18.

 

[cowboysooner]

That is not true, teams still have needs and they will draft to those needs with BPA that does not deminish the talent in the 2nd and 3rd. Hell some of the grades that put up and the combines are close to those sitting in rd 1 of the draft. There are some very good players along the OL.

I know if Dallas does not draft an OL in rd 1 many here will be hollering about it but reaching for any player has gotten us in big trouble while we end up passing on top talent. I want to get OL what I don't want is passing up qaulity player because the Cowboys panic on the OL

1 4 Matt Kalil T USC Minnesota Vikings
1 23 Riley Reiff T Iowa Detroit Lions
1 24 David DeCastro G Stanford Pittsburgh Steelers
1 27 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin Cincinnati Bengals
2 37 Mitchell Schwartz T California Cleveland Browns
2 40 Amini Silatolu G Midwestern State Carolina Panthers
2 41 Cordy Glenn T Georgia Buffalo Bills
2 42 Jonathan Martin T Stanford Miami Dolphins
2 44 Jeff Allen T Illinois Kansas City Chiefs
2 55 Peter Konz G Wisconsin Atlanta Falcons
2 56 Mike Adams T Ohio State Pittsburgh Steelers
2 60 Kelechi Osemele T Iowa State Baltimore Ravens
3 71 Josh Leribeus G Southern Methodist Washington Commanders
3 74 Donald Stephenson T Oklahoma Kansas City Chiefs
3 76 Brandon Brooks G Miami (Ohio) Houston Texans
3 91 Lamar Holmes T Southern Mississippi Atlanta Falcons
3 95 Tony Bergstrom G Utah Oakland Raiders
4 98 Gino Gradkowski G Delaware Baltimore Ravens
4 99 Ben Jones C Georgia Houston Texans
4 108 Philip Blake C Baylor Denver Broncos
4 112 Bobby Massie T Mississippi Arizona Cardinals
4 117 Joe Looney G Wake Forest San Francisco 49ers
4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn New York Giants


That is last year's group. I don't see as many good guards especially this year as last year. Last year there was 8/9 guards in the top 3 rounds. I don't see that this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

1 4 Matt Kalil T USC Minnesota Vikings
1 23 Riley Reiff T Iowa Detroit Lions
1 24 David DeCastro G Stanford Pittsburgh Steelers
1 27 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin Cincinnati Bengals
2 37 Mitchell Schwartz T California Cleveland Browns
2 40 Amini Silatolu G Midwestern State Carolina Panthers
2 41 Cordy Glenn T Georgia Buffalo Bills
2 42 Jonathan Martin T Stanford Miami Dolphins
2 44 Jeff Allen T Illinois Kansas City Chiefs
2 55 Peter Konz G Wisconsin Atlanta Falcons
2 56 Mike Adams T Ohio State Pittsburgh Steelers
2 60 Kelechi Osemele T Iowa State Baltimore Ravens
3 71 Josh Leribeus G Southern Methodist Washington Commanders
3 74 Donald Stephenson T Oklahoma Kansas City Chiefs
3 76 Brandon Brooks G Miami (Ohio) Houston Texans
3 91 Lamar Holmes T Southern Mississippi Atlanta Falcons
3 95 Tony Bergstrom G Utah Oakland Raiders
4 98 Gino Gradkowski G Delaware Baltimore Ravens
4 99 Ben Jones C Georgia Houston Texans
4 108 Philip Blake C Baylor Denver Broncos
4 112 Bobby Massie T Mississippi Arizona Cardinals
4 117 Joe Looney G Wake Forest San Francisco 49ers
4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn New York Giants


That is last year's group. I don't see as many good guards especially this year as last year. Last year there was 8/9 guards in the top 3 rounds. I don't see that this year.

I'm not talking just gaurds, overall. center, Gaurd and Tackles this is a pretty deep draft. If you disagree that is fine but I see a lot of good talent in this draft.

 

[jobberone]

There is good OL thru the first four and some likely to be in the fourth-fifth like Jones, Faulk, etc. So there's no need to go OL early unless the player deserves it. My guess is Lacy, one of the top WRs and there are 5 with first round talent IMO, or a DT or S is going to us with the top pick although I think if Cooper is there they will take him. Maybe Warmack. This is a good draft IMO.

 

[Doomsday101]

There is good OL thru the first four and some likely to be in the fourth-fifth like Jones, Faulk, etc. So there's no need to go OL early unless the player deserves it. My guess is Lacy, one of the top WRs and there are 5 with first round talent IMO, or a DT or S is going to us with the top pick although I think if Cooper is there they will take him. Maybe Warmack. This is a good draft IMO.

I agree. I would love to get Cooper or Warmack what I don't want to see is the Cowboys reach for a OL player if those 2 are gone. There are other issues we have such as DL and safety but even other position if you have a player you ranked high and he is sitting there you can't pass up talent. The draft is much more than just todays needs it is the building blocks for your future

 

[Cowboys22]

Why not none of the 90's OL was a 1st rd pick Not Eric Williams, or Larry Allen not one of them were but they were top talent, there is quality and that is what it is all about not what round that is why it does matter how deep this draft is along the OL.

If a top OL is sitting there at 18 grab him but you don't reach for a player no matter what position he plays. Passing up top talent at another position because you panic on OL is dumb. There are some very good players who will be there in the 2nd and 3rd who have top potential

Yes, but my point is that an OL will never be at the top of their board if they are still ranking them like they did the year their draft board leaked. That year there was never an OL at the top of their board when they picked until the 6th round. Every OL on their board was taken 1-3 rounds earlier then where they had them ranked. If they are still treating OL that way compared to the rest of the league and they stick to their board, they won't get an OL in rounds 2-5 because they will all be picked by teams that ranked them higher. The obvious 1st round talent may be the best opportunity for an OL to actually be at the top of their board when they are on the clock. That was my point. I hope they have adjusted how they rank OL and given them more value than they used to so that they have a shot at one in any round.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, but my point is that an OL will never be at the top of their board if they are still ranking them like they did the year their draft board leaked. That year there was never an OL at the top of their board when they picked until the 6th round. Every OL on their board was taken 1-3 rounds earlier then where they had them ranked. If they are still treating OL that way compared to the rest of the league and they stick to their board, they won't get an OL in rounds 2-5 because they will all be picked by teams that ranked them higher. The obvious 1st round talent may be the best opportunity for an OL to actually be at the top of their board when they are on the clock. That was my point. I hope they have adjusted how they rank OL and given them more value than they used to so that they have a shot at one in any round.

I'm willing to bet an OL player is taken within the 1st 3 rd of this draft. If they did not value OL players Tyron Smith would never have been selected with the 9th overall pick.

 

[Cowboys22]

I'm willing to bet an OL player is taken within the 1st 3 rd of this draft. If they did not value OL players Tyron Smith would never have been selected with the 9th overall pick.

He was an obvious 1st round talent and he is the perfect example of my point. After the obvious top OL is where my concern lies and why I say that one falling to them at 18 may be the best chance for an OL to be at the top of their board. If they have adjusted and value OL like other positions, then I'm not worried that an OL may top their board in the middle rounds and they could get one there.