Running Back Top Priority

[DaBoys4Life]

Every saying we have to get a 3rd solid corner and need another WR and than RB comes I disagree. We have a lock down corner in newman and a decent one in Henry. Then WR we have the most depth assuming Glenn can still play however we are still fairly deep at the position. Then there RB who we only have one of MB3 and we use a two back system.

Discuss why you guys feel/ don't feel this isn't our top priority and what you do feel to be our top priority if not RB.

 

[ndanger]

Dang, I picked a fine time to lose my secret de-coder ring. Shazzam!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Half of the cornors that had consistent playing time last year are now gone. Quality cornors are much harder to find than running backs.

EDIT:

Better yet, here is a list of CB on our roster as of today:

20	Ball, Alan	CB	6-1	176	R	Illinois
36	Butler, Quincy	CB	6-1	185	1	TCU
37	Everett, Tyler	CB	5-11	202	1	Ohio St
42	Henry, Anthony 	CB	6-1	205	7	South Florida
33	Jones, Nathan	CB	5-10	183	4	Rutgers
41	Newman, Terence	CB	5-11	181	5	Kansas State
23	Oglesby, Evan	CB	5-10	185	2	N Alabama
40	Phinisee, JustinCB	5-11	199	1	Oregon
43	Wishom, Jerron	CB	6-0	197	2	Louisiana Tech

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Half of the cornors that had consistent playing time last year are now gone. Quality cornors are much harder to find than running backs.

EDIT:

Better yet, here is a list of CB on our roster as of today:

20    Ball, Alan    CB    6-1    176    R    Illinois
36    Butler, Quincy    CB    6-1    185    1    TCU
37    Everett, Tyler    CB    5-11    202    1    Ohio St
42    Henry, Anthony     CB    6-1    205    7    South Florida
33    Jones, Nathan    CB    5-10    183    4    Rutgers
41    Newman, Terence    CB    5-11    181    5    Kansas State
23    Oglesby, Evan    CB    5-10    185    2    N Alabama
40    Phinisee, JustinCB    5-11    199    1    Oregon
43    Wishom, Jerron    CB    6-0    197    2    Louisiana Tech

Ok having quality corners means nothing I'm sorry but i haven't seen a team win because they had 3 quality corners. Football games are won through the line of scrimmage. Just because RB's come and go in the league i fail to see how that pushes down the priority. Like based on your theory you can slot any random RB and expect ok results I just don't realize how quick ppl can forget how we passed on Stephen Jackson to get into the 2nd round and pick up JJ and we see how that went.

Dang, I picked a fine time to lose my secret de-coder ring. Shazzam!

did you come up with that one all by yourself

 

[Chuck 54]

Your argument makes less sense for selecting a RB than it does CB. We have a pro bowl RB already. Not all teams run two backs. RB's to provide depth will be available all summer and after cutdowns and throughout the draft.

I disagree with you on WR, but let's say Glenn returns, TO stays healthy, and STanback becomes a star...you have an argument for not drafting one early.

However, CB is a position of dire need. No team in the NFL can function with only two CB's....you must have a quality 3rd guy because you end up playing nickel 40-50 percent of the time these days...If we started the season with the CB's we have now, every team would line up in 3-4 WR sets and just laugh.

Right now, assuming Henry and TNew play every down of the season (fat chance), we don't have a single CB on the roster with game experience.

CB is positively our most pressing need on this football team...that doesn't mean CB will be the best value on the board at #22 or that we'll take a CB there, but to argue that RB is a greater need than CB is totally wrong, imo.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Really in my mind, our needs are all pretty high right now, and none really outweigh another. A case could be made for the absolute need of a RB, CB, or WR. I guess what bothers me is that they are all skill positions, but we got ourselves in this situation, so we have to dig our way out of it.

Crayton isn't a #2 WR (guess I'm repeating myself), so we need a guy there. We all assume Henry will get hurt whenever sun goes up, but he is still our #2 CB, and not a bad one when healthy.

I think RB is a higher priority than some think, and I will say this, would rather Barber either keep his role as the backup, or have limited carries as maybe a starter. Barber isn't a feature back, no matter how much we want him to be.

I have been hoping since the beginning of last season that we could get a guy to fill one of those 3 spots in free agency or something, but unfortunately that hasn't happened. I don't believe we can fill all 3 in the draft, although I leave out some hope we can.

 

[TonyS]

Every saying we have to get a 3rd solid corner and need another WR and than RB comes I disagree. We have a lock down corner in newman and a decent one in Henry. Then WR we have the most depth assuming Glenn can still play however we are still fairly deep at the position. Then there RB who we only have one of MB3 and we use a two back system.

Discuss why you guys feel/ don't feel this isn't our top priority and what you do feel to be our top priority if not RB.

Who do we have after Henry and Newman? How many games did those two miss last season? We need another starting caliber CB.

We also need a starting caliber WR (#2/#3). Then we also need a RB to complement Barber.

Needs are subjective so we can go on and on arguing...well I guess there's nothing better to do. Carry on everyone.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Ok having quality corners means nothing I'm sorry but i haven't seen a team win because they had 3 quality corners.

Nope, but you saw them lose to the Patriots when Wes Welker ate teams third cornor for breakfast.

Also, what happens if Henry or Newman go down. You drop Nathan Jones in as a starter? What about Barber going down you say? How about relying on TO, Witten, Glenn, Crayton or any of our other receivers and then just plugging in a RB until Barber can return.

When on offense, you can dictate who you use to attack a defense. On defense, the offense dictates who they are going to attack. A bad CB is much worse than having a bad RB because on defense you have less control over the play.

If your running back tends to fumble a lot, you don't give him the ball. If a CB sucks, what are you going to do? Thats right, weaken other parts of your defense to help the sucky CB. Several teams last year exploited Reeves, because he was one of our defenses' weakness.

EDIT: Edited paragraph three to make more sense...

 

[Hostile]

Let's see we have Newman, Henry, Oglesby, and Ball at CB. We lost Reeves and Nate Jones.

We have Williams, Brown, Watkins, and Hamlin at Safety and Lost Davis.

In today's NFL you need 3 or more viable CBs and 6 on your roster.

CB is by far the most needed upgrade on this team.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Your argument makes less sense for selecting a RB than it does CB. We have a pro bowl RB already. Not all teams run two backs. RB's to provide depth will be available all summer and after cutdowns and throughout the draft.

I disagree with you on WR, but let's say Glenn returns, TO stays healthy, and STanback becomes a star...you have an argument for not drafting one early.

However, CB is a position of dire need. No team in the NFL can function with only two CB's....you must have a quality 3rd guy because you end up playing nickel 40-50 percent of the time these days.

Right now, assuming Henry and TNew play every down of the season (fat chance), we don't have a single CB on the roster with game experience.

CB is positively our most pressing need on this football team...that doesn't mean CB will be the best value on the board at #22 or that we'll take a CB there, but to argue that RB is a greater need than CB is totally wrong, imo.

Hmmm let's see Giants no solid number one Colts no solid number one and Steelers no solid number one. None of these teams had good corners or 3 quality corners yet for some reason they won the superbowl. They same could even be said for the pat's because out side of Samuel they didn't have any one. Rams defense was terrible also. Ravens one of the better defense we seen in years didn't have 3 quality corners. All these teams won super bowls though.

Your right not all teams run 2 back system that why i am glad i'm on this Cowboys website and i'm a cowboys fan and i speak about the system the cowboys run.

This is wrong on so many level the first level assuming we need an extra CB in order for us to be good is wrong. What we need is an improved DLine and more pressure from up the middle and from off the Ends that don't include Ellis and Ware.

I'd rather see us going RB then improve our DLine but there isn't any vauable line man at the time we are going to pick so we are stuck so to speak.

 

[jterrell]

RB is a much lower priority than CB or WR.

We have our starter and the 2 back system we use is really a result of having spent a 2nd round pick on the other guy we had. We do need a backup running back but we will easily get one. It is one of the easiest positions to play as a rookie and is one of the most easily filled positions.

Games are won with the passing game and the ability to control the passing game.

We need a backup running back/full time kick returner, the exact kind of guy drafted in rounds 3 and 4 every year by many teams.

CBs and WRs are hard to find and use keep a bunch of them on the roster because in certain sets you use a bunch of them.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Nope, but you saw them lose to the Patriots when Wes Welker ate teams third cornor for breakfast.

Also, what happens if Henry or Newman go down. You drop Nathan Jones in as a starter? What about Barber going down you say? How about relying on TO, Witten, Glenn, Crayton or any of our other receivers and then just plugging in a RB until Barber can return.

When on offense, you can dictate who you use to attack a defense. On defense, the offense dictates who they are going to attack. A bad CB is much worse than having a bad RB because on defense you have less control over the play.

If your running back tends to fumble a lot, you don't give him the ball. If a CB sucks, what are you going to do? Thats right, weaken other parts of your defense to help the sucky CB. Several teams last year exploited Reeves, because he was one of our defenses' weakness.

EDIT: Edited paragraph three to make more sense...

Newman and Henry both went down at different points in time this season and if we still didn't loose games because of that whether it was because of how much or Offense scored or what great teams have to be able to overcome personnel injuries. Your other paragraphs confuse me so i won't respond to them.

Let's see we have Newman, Henry, Oglesby, and Ball at CB. We lost Reeves and Nate Jones.

We have Williams, Brown, Watkins, and Hamlin at Safety and Lost Davis.

In today's NFL you need 3 or more viable CBs and 6 on your roster.

CB is by far the most needed upgrade on this team.

That's funny because the super bowl chamions past 5 years all had shaky secondaries and i don't care how fast pass how much people throw the ball football is football and if you win the battle at the line of scrimmage you win the game.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Let's see we have Newman, Henry, Oglesby, and Ball at CB. We lost Reeves and Nate Jones.

We have Williams, Brown, Watkins, and Hamlin at Safety and Lost Davis.

In today's NFL you need 3 or more viable CBs and 6 on your roster.

CB is by far the most needed upgrade on this team.

Yeah, I know what your saying, we did win a superbowl with Larry Brown though.

A point can be made for all of our needs to be top priority. Don't get me started on why we need a WR....

 

[YosemiteSam]

Newman and Henry both went down at different points in time this season and if we still didn't loose games because of that whether it was because of how much or Offense scored or what great teams have to be able to overcome personnel injuries. Your other paragraphs confuse me so i won't respond to them.

Reeves was the weakness last season, Nathan Jones is far worse than Reeves. Otherwise you would have seen Jones plugged in as the starter instead of Reeves!

There seems to be no point in arguing with you. I do wish to practice insanity at this time, so I shall move along.

 

[aggiecurt05]

Who do we have after Henry and Newman? How many games did those two miss last season? We need another starting caliber CB.

We also need a starting caliber WR (#2/#3). Then we also need a RB to complement Barber.

Needs are subjective so we can go on and on arguing...well I guess there's nothing better to do. Carry on everyone.

I think the point he is making is that the top two corners play every down (so CB is a backup), whereas RB is necessarily a two back system and we are basically missing a starter.

In my opinion- the discussion between RB and CB in terms of need is a mute one. We need a nickel cornerback and we need a second running back. WR is a distant third behind those two. After passes are thrown to TO and Witten, there aren't enough passes to go around to think that the combo of Glenn, Crayton, and Stanback won't hold up over the season.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

RB is a much lower priority than CB or WR.

We have our starter and the 2 back system we use is really a result of having spent a 2nd round pick on the other guy we had. We do need a backup running back but we will easily get one. It is one of the easiest positions to play as a rookie and is one of the most easily filled positions.

Games are won with the passing game and the ability to control the passing game.

We need a backup running back/full time kick returner, the exact kind of guy drafted in rounds 3 and 4 every year by many teams.

CBs and WRs are hard to find and use keep a bunch of them on the roster because in certain sets you use a bunch of them.

Games are won at the line of scrimmage if you can consistently get pressure on the QB you can force them into errors and mistakes.

We have a bunch of CB's and WR's on our roster now but only one RB.

I'm not sold on our back RB being just some random. The saints spent the #2 pick on reggie bush when they already had Duece Mcallister and Aaronn stecker. RB's aren't a dime a dozen some are cuts above the rest theres no need for me to go into that. Also AP was drafted 7th by the Vikings when they already had Chester Taylor why didn't they just say heck we can get RB in 5th and just ride Chester Taylor ?

 

[BrassCowboy]

Every saying we have to get a 3rd solid corner and need another WR and than RB comes I disagree. We have a lock down corner in newman and a decent one in Henry. Then WR we have the most depth assuming Glenn can still play however we are still fairly deep at the position. Then there RB who we only have one of MB3 and we use a two back system.

Discuss why you guys feel/ don't feel this isn't our top priority and what you do feel to be our top priority if not RB.

I won't say we don't need another RB. A RB should definately be one of the top three picks. I do not think it has to be a top priority, and definately not one that we sacrifice draft picks to go get (whole McFadden trade up theory).

CB is our top priority by far and is one reason why I am real worried about our defense this year. Here is why:
1. after terrence Newman and Anthony Henry, we have NO ONE.
2. Newman and Henry were both hurt at one point last year.
3. What do you do when teams go into 3, 4, and 5 WR lineups? refer to #1. do you use LBs? or or how about using S Roy Williams?
4. Every team is looking for a good cb
5. Teams are concentrating more and more on pass plays.

RB is not a TOP priority because:
1. We have Marion Barber.
2. This draft is loaded with good RBs, and one could be had with our 2nd first or 2nd round.
3. We do not HAVE to be a two back system to be successful.

Like I said at first, we should get one with our top three picks, but not at any added costs than need be. I will trust Cowboys top brass to decide which order to pick'em.

 

[big dog cowboy]

CB is by far the most needed upgrade on this team.

 

[TheCount]

Every saying we have to get a 3rd solid corner and need another WR and than RB comes I disagree. We have a lock down corner in newman and a decent one in Henry. Then WR we have the most depth assuming Glenn can still play however we are still fairly deep at the position. Then there RB who we only have one of MB3 and we use a two back system.

Discuss why you guys feel/ don't feel this isn't our top priority and what you do feel to be our top priority if not RB.

Dude, seriously. This Chris Johnson love you feel has completely destroyed your sense of reality.

The saints spent the #2 pick on reggie bush when they already had Duece Mcallister and Aaronn stecker. RB's aren't a dime a dozen some are cuts above the rest theres no need for me to go into that.

You obviously haven't been following the RB saga with the Saints. When they lost Deuce, Reggie (their superstar speed back... sounds familiar) couldn't carry the load, averaging a pitiful 3.7 yards a carry. He didn't even get a single game over 100 yards on the ground. Instead, you had 3rd and 4th rb's like Stecker (UNDRAFTED) and Pierre Thomas (ALSO UNDRAFTED) running the ball, since Reggie promptly got injured himself, carrying the load and doing a fine job.

You picked exactly the wrong team to try and make that argument.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Who do we have after Henry and Newman? How many games did those two miss last season? We need another starting caliber CB.

We also need a starting caliber WR (#2/#3). Then we also need a RB to complement Barber.

Needs are subjective so we can go on and on arguing...well I guess there's nothing better to do. Carry on everyone.

Name one team with 3 starting caliber CB. Crayton is a solid #2 just because he had messed up in the playoffs doesn't negate what he did during the regular season.