Running Back Top Priority

[YosemiteSam]

Cedric Benson, Adrian Peterson, Maurice Jones Drew, Reggie Bush would disagree with you.

No, all of them were prejected to become starters.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Tell me what running in the league is Emmitt Walter Thurman or Tony Dorsett there isn't so your point is out the window there aren't RB's like that any more.

I'm still waiting for this question to be answered what team in the NFL has 3 quality starter CB's. like i said before i don't care if you pass the ball 40-50 times a game the pass rush needs to get there.

well why stop there, if we want to run better with Marion, then we should worry about beefing up our Oline more. If we want our QB to be better, then we need better WRs, TEs and pass catching RBs. If we want better pass rushing LBs, lets not get better LBs, lets just get a better defensive line. If we want better CBs, then that dang defensive front better make it easier for us.

God, I wish we could wish miracles would happen in every game. Hell, I wish we would have a cure for cancer, but we don't so if we need better CBs, then get a better CB, not hope lightning strikes the QB, or that there offensive line just caves in every play. (referring to backup CBs - not Newman or Henry)

I am with you on having good pass rush, and I think we have one. Look at the Patriots.... they won every game because they lived on the passing game with multiple wr sets. Do you honestly think ANY of our guys behind Newman and Henry could cover any of their WRs?

I am not sure you get the message clearly because you keep asking the same thing when you ask if there are any teams out there with 3 solid CBs. The thing is we have 2 solid CBs, and after that you have guys who could barely challenge my neighborhood high school team for a starting spot (ok a little exaggeration but you get my point).

this whole conversation is moot because Dallas will get that good CB at #22, then still get a very good RB at 28 because this draft is loaded with them.

As far as Terry Glenn is concerned, I think we should just cut ties with him now and move on. He is risking his future by not having surgery now, and still lucky to make any kind of impact next year, so why are we stringing him along? Let him go. That is what I predict Jerry Jones will do anyways.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

well why stop there, if we want to run better with Marion, then we should worry about beefing up our Oline more. If we want our QB to be better, then we need better WRs, TEs and pass catching RBs. If we want better pass rushing LBs, lets not get better LBs, lets just get a better defensive line. If we want better CBs, then that dang defensive front better make it easier for us.

God, I wish we could wish miracles would happen in every game. Hell, I wish we would have a cure for cancer, but we don't so if we need better CBs, then get a better CB, not hope lightning strikes the QB, or that there offensive line just caves in every play. (referring to backup CBs - not Newman or Henry)

I am with you on having good pass rush, and I think we have one. Look at the Patriots.... they won every game because they lived on the passing game with multiple wr sets. Do you honestly think ANY of our guys behind Newman and Henry could cover any of their WRs?

I am not sure you get the message clearly because you keep asking the same thing when you ask if there are any teams out there with 3 solid CBs. The thing is we have 2 solid CBs, and after that you have guys who could barely challenge my neighborhood high school team for a starting spot (ok a little exaggeration but you get my point).

this whole conversation is moot because Dallas will get that good CB at #22, then still get a very good RB at 28 because this draft is loaded with them.

As far as Terry Glenn is concerned, I think we should just cut ties with him now and move on. He is risking his future by not having surgery now, and still lucky to make any kind of impact next year, so why are we stringing him along? Let him go. That is what I predict Jerry Jones will do anyways.

You still didn't answer my question about the 3 quality starter CB's. I agree with you on Terry Glenn. I don't understand the use of sarcasm but w/e floats your boat. The fact still remains our DT wasn't speculate barely getting in the QB face and Spears numbers went down from when he was in BP system. Outside of Ware Ellis Spence which accounts for almost 30 sacks 29 i think is exact. We don't have much outside of that.

If people didn't insist that we needed 3 quality starter type question i wouldn't continue to ask the question that i am failing to get a response to.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Really all this comes down to is do we think Barber is the man. If you want a RB high in the draft, you don't think he is.

With Barber's style of running, I would be alot more comfortable with a guy that at least could start if we needed him to. Granted our CBs after our 2 starters suck......just wish we could have met at least one of these 3 needs in free agency.

 

[BrassCowboy]

just to clear things up, after Newman and Henry (who were both playing injured last year by the way) we have nobody. once you get by Newman and Henry, it is like a kid at a candy store.

God forbid either one of them get injured. we all would be thinking Reeves was God.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

just to clear things up, after Newman and Henry (who were both playing injured last year by the way) we have nobody. once you get by Newman and Henry, it is like a kid at a candy store.

God forbid either one of them get injured. we all would be thinking Reeves was God.

This is true however what i am trying to get across is teams have worked with less and still been able to win championship we had 13 pro bowlers 1st round buy home field advantage through out and couldn't get to the super bowl

 

[burmafrd]

The Giants won the SB winning 3 road games against top opponents and then beating the 18-0 Pats in the SB. By your reasoning everyone should be able to do that. Its the same "logic" you are using for taking a RB.

TOTALLY WRONG.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The Giants won the SB winning 3 road games against top opponents and then beating the 18-0 Pats in the SB. By your reasoning everyone should be able to do that. Its the same "logic" you are using for taking a RB.

TOTALLY WRONG.

what ??????

 

[TheCount]

This is true however what i am trying to get across is teams have worked with less and still been able to win championship we had 13 pro bowlers 1st round buy home field advantage through out and couldn't get to the super bowl

Your argument is self defeating. To say teams worked with less is a reason why we should draft a rb makes very little sense.

Teams have also won with caretakers at QB instead of playmakers, does that mean we should have let Romo walk and bring in another guy?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Your argument is self defeating. To say teams worked with less is a reason why we should draft a rb makes very little sense.

Teams have also won with caretakers at QB instead of playmakers, does that mean we should have let Romo walk and bring in another guy?

no but i think its foolish to think / expect the third corner to be a quality starter.

 

[BrassCowboy]

You still didn't answer my question about the 3 quality starter CB's. I agree with you on Terry Glenn. I don't understand the use of sarcasm but w/e floats your boat. The fact still remains our DT wasn't speculate barely getting in the QB face and Spears numbers went down from when he was in BP system. Outside of Ware Ellis Spence which accounts for almost 30 sacks 29 i think is exact. We don't have much outside of that.

If people didn't insist that we needed 3 quality starter type question i wouldn't continue to ask the question that i am failing to get a response to.

I think it is really because you are asking the wrong question. What I believe you should be asking is: What other team in the NFL has two quality starting CBs with guys who can come in and hold the fort as needed to cover the third and fourth WRs?

with that question, the answer would be numerous teams.

The problem with our team and the reason for the rephrasing the question is that we have just two quality CBs and that is it. We do not have serviceable guys backing them up now.

As far as Spears and our line. I really think scheme and overcoming other faults is our problem. few example; Roy Williams was supposed to play closer to the line more like a LB, but due to lack of quality DBs and DB scheme he played back more against pass which you must know what kind of a pass defender he is.

Another thing is I really would of liked to see Capers come in and replace Stewart as our DC because I think Stewart was a little scared to play aggressive like we all seen in Wade's past and actually expected. Capers is more experienced and has always played aggressive. Lets just hope that was a first year thing with Stewart, but you know that fear comes from trusting your front Dbs to cover long enough for the front seven or eight to get to the QB because if they don't cover long enough and a WR catches one while 8 defenders are all around the QB, what do you think may happen?

Do you think Stewart will trust them even more now that a servicable Jacques Reeves is gone? We need him too. Just saying we need to give him more reason to think its ok to go rush that QB without fear.

I agree with our need for a quality backup RB, but I really think we can get both as long as CB is first because more teams are reaching for one while their are less of them available in the draft. RBs are gonna be a little more plentiful.

I think that explains where I am coming from, and your reasoning is all bad, just that you will find a very small audience in the seats but plenty within hearing distance. Know what I mean.

I would not say I would be suprised with any order the Cowboys draft, just think we ought to get the harder to find gem first. To me, that would be CB.

 

[TheCount]

no but i think its foolish to think / expect the third corner to be a quality starter.

If you have the opportunity to add a potential starter at 3rd corner, why wouldn't you do it in a league where we're starting to see more and more 5-wide sets and quality corners are hard to come by?

Running backs are much easier to come by than quality starting CB's.

 

[Hostile]

That's funny because the super bowl chamions past 5 years all had shaky secondaries and i don't care how fast pass how much people throw the ball football is football and if you win the battle at the line of scrimmage you win the game.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I doubt the Cowboys will agree with you. I never will on this topic. I think we can get a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round who will fit in just fine. I do not have the same confidence if we don't address CB.

 

[jdnoyes]

Both positions are positions of need, but the bottom line in today's NFL is that 3rd CB's are much much more important than backup RB's. A nickel CB will play about 40% of the defensive snaps for the Cowboys this year. You can bet your shorts no RB we draft at 22 will play 40% of the offensive snaps barring an injury to MBIII. You keep bringing up AD and Reggie Bush as RB's who were drafted high by teams with a starting RB already in place. Of course they were, they were both widely considered to be far and away the best players left on the board where they were picked. If there is an early run on CB's in the draft could we draft a RB at 22? if one that has value drops, sure and we should, Had there been a CB on the board with equal value to either of those two runners, i'm quite sure the Saints and Vikings would have both selected CB's. You can see the value NFL GM's place on positions by the franchise tag cost. That tells you right there what position real NFL GM's believe to be more important. Bottom line is that a RB/WR/and CB are on the board at 22 that the Cowboys consider to be similar values they will and should draft the CB.

QB-10.7M
CB-9.46M
DE-8.8M
LB-8.06M
OL-7.45M
RB-6.53M

 

[TonyS]

Both positions are positions of need, but the bottom line in today's NFL is that 3rd CB's are much much more important than backup RB's. A nickel CB will play about 40% of the defensive snaps for the Cowboys this year. You can bet your shorts no RB we draft at 22 will play 40% of the offensive snaps barring an injury to MBIII. You keep bringing up AD and Reggie Bush as RB's who were drafted high by teams with a starting RB already in place. Of course they were, they were both widely considered to be far and away the best players left on the board where they were picked. If there is an early run on CB's in the draft could we draft a RB at 22? if one that has value drops, sure and we should, Had there been a CB on the board with equal value to either of those two runners, i'm quite sure the Saints and Vikings would have both selected CB's. You can see the value NFL GM's place on positions by the franchise tag cost. That tells you right there what position real NFL GM's believe to be more important. Bottom line is that a RB/WR/and CB are on the board at 22 that the Cowboys consider to be similar values they will and should draft the CB.

QB-10.7M
CB-9.46M
DE-8.8M
LB-8.06M
OL-7.45M
RB-6.53M

:clap2:

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm still getting the same reasons that todays NFL you need 3 quality CB's and the thread has to be capable of being a starter how ever there aren't any teams likes this in the NFL and if you look at the super bowl winners of the past couple of years you don't even remember their DB's.


One guy said 3 quality corners is the wrong question to i should asked about 2 quality CB's however that wasn't the question but to answer that we will go with Ravens, Packers, Cowboys, Chargers and Broncos are the only teams with 2 solid corners then theres mostly teams with one strong CB some don't even have a solid number one.

Running backs are much easier to come by than quality starting CB's.

Thats funny seeing how we haven't had a good running back since Emmitt

 

[ndanger]

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I doubt the Cowboys will agree with you. I never will on this topic. I think we can get a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round who will fit in just fine. I do not have the same confidence if we don't address CB.

Gimme ,Cason ,Talib. Cromartie, at least one or a combo of 2 and Ray Rice and I will call it a day and let everyone fight amongst themselves for the rest. I feel pretty good knowing you'll at least put up a decent fight for Owen Schmitt.That alone would be an excellent draft in my opinion.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Every saying we have to get a 3rd solid corner and need another WR and than RB comes I disagree. We have a lock down corner in newman and a decent one in Henry. Then WR we have the most depth assuming Glenn can still play however we are still fairly deep at the position. Then there RB who we only have one of MB3 and we use a two back system.

Discuss why you guys feel/ don't feel this isn't our top priority and what you do feel to be our top priority if not RB.

Disagree with that there. Im still not sold on the guy, we need another CB to go along with Newman. maybe later we can move henry to the 3rd CB or maybe in the future give the guy a shot at safety. And about the RB situation, we should just keep doing what we did last season. Split carries between MBIII AND WHOEVER ELSE WE GET IN HERE

 

[Stash]

I'm still getting the same reasons that todays NFL you need 3 quality CB's and the thread has to be capable of being a starter how ever there aren't any teams likes this in the NFL and if you look at the super bowl winners of the past couple of years you don't even remember their DB's.

You see what you want to see. That's obvious. Name me the last team with a Pro Bowl running back to use a #1 draft choice on a running back?

Half of the league's playoff teams featured running backs who were late round draft choices or free agents, including the eventual champs..

Thats funny seeing how we haven't had a good running back since Emmitt

The current one did make the Pro Bowl.....

 

[TheCount]

Thats funny seeing how we haven't had a good running back since Emmitt

Talk about selective memory, you refuse to look outside of your narrow field of vision when discussing the subject so this discussion is absolutely pointless.

You want people to discuss the issue, then fail to even take the smallest morsel of what everyone is screaming at you into consideration.

Why even start the thread?

You're right, a backup rb will put us in the superbowl next year.