Ryan Mallet at #1?

[Dmoore Esq]

Mallet = Derek Anderson

Big Strong Arm + Big Mouth and Bad attitude.

Ridiculous comparison.

 

[SMCowboy]

Ryan Mallett is going to be one of the guys that leaves all the "talking heads" scratching their heads when he gets drafted much higher than they expect him to......

If you judge strictly on talent and NFL preparedness alone, Ryan Mallett is hands down the #1 QB in this class. All it takes is 1 team to not think that his "personal issues" are not quite as bad as the media makes them out to be.

 

[Patton]

The guy has cement blocks for feet. I do think he's a good pure passer, but against teams that can bring the heat, he'll be on his back and unable to avoid hits.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

If they think he is the best QB in the draft and they want a QB than I say good for them for stepping up and getting their guy.


People bust on Mallett but it's not like he doesn't have all kinds of talent.

And it's not like he wasn't ultra productive in college. Talent and production is something that NFL scouts like. In the NBA, collegiate production doesn't mean much, but in football it does.




YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Ryan Mallett is going to be one of the guys that leaves all the "talking heads" scratching their heads when he gets drafted much higher than they expect him to......

If you judge strictly on talent and NFL preparedness alone, Ryan Mallett is hands down the #1 QB in this class. All it takes is 1 team to not think that his "personal issues" are not quite as bad as the media makes them out to be.

On draft day, Quarterbacks stocks almost always go way up. Sometimes it doesn't, like the Aaron Rodgers year. But, Alex Smith still was drafted #1 overall. And with Rodgers being a success, and being a recent success, it's likely that come draft day a QB's stock will go up.

I thought Mallet moved around well when I saw him. From what I saw, he had pretty poor WR's. I just remember each game there being a ton of dropped passes.





YR

 

[SMCowboy]

The guy has cement blocks for feet. I do think he's a good pure passer, but against teams that can bring the heat, he'll be on his back and unable to avoid hits.

Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Dan Marino all had/have cement blocks for feet as well. And all turned into great NFL QB's.....

 

[Phrozen Phil]

When we get to the last month before the draft, more smoke gets blown up people's ***** than ever. Just for fun, in 2002 I posted a rumor on another board that Joey Harrington had a supernumerary nipple. It generated a brief buzz, followed by some "conspiracy" folks looking for real evidence. It's real easy to start rumors that may or may not have any substance.

 

[Patton]

Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Dan Marino all had/have cement blocks for feet as well. And all turned into great NFL QB's.....

He's ore in the vein of a Drew Bledsoe than any of those guys.

 

[AKATheRake]

On draft day, Quarterbacks stocks almost always go way up. Sometimes it doesn't, like the Aaron Rodgers year. But, Alex Smith still was drafted #1 overall. And with Rodgers being a success, and being a recent success, it's likely that come draft day a QB's stock will go up.

I thought Mallet moved around well when I saw him. From what I saw, he had pretty poor WR's. I just remember each game there being a ton of dropped passes.





YR

Mallet moves inside the pocket very well and is exceptional in play action scenario's. His mobility reminds me a lot of Ben Roethlesberger's but Ben is obviously much tougher to take down.

Mallet's issue is not his game. It's his party life.

 

[DFWJC]

Except they dont have a pick at the top of the 2nd rd.

You're right.
So unless they trade down and get him late in the 1st, they may not get him at all. If they like him ok, then that would be the right move--trade down from #1 overall (if they can) and get 2-3 high pick in return. They get Mallett and a couple of other good players too.

I just don't at sse Mallet going first overall, but I've been wrong before.

I agree, there is a real chance he ends up being the top QB in this group....I'd say 30-40% chance or so (which is great).

 

[dbair1967]

Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Dan Marino all had/have cement blocks for feet as well. And all turned into great NFL QB's.....

Your point is somewhat valid, but Aikman didnt have cement blocks for feet at all. He was quite athletic and had some good wheels before all the back and knee problems took their toll. He also threw on the run quite well in his early years.

 

[dbair1967]

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Also his performance gets worse by the quarter.

A lot of his throws get picked off in the NFL. He tries way too hard to squeeze balls in. This guy would have en epic failure of a rookie season if hes rushed him out there. He doesnt have the maturity or work ethic to learn and grasp a playbook nor the discipline to stick to a gameplan.

Its nice that you pick out that play, but ignore some of the others (positive) that he makes.

He could have easily had several tds in the first half, but his WR's dropped 4 or 5 gimmees, including two should have been tds that were excellent throws.

If he doesnt apply himself, he'll fail. But if he works hard he has a chance to be pretty good IMO. His pure passing skill is not equalled by anyone in this draft.

 

[tunahelper]

Mallett reminds me of Phillip RIVERS

 

[Dmoore Esq]

He's ore in the vein of a Drew Bledsoe than any of those guys.

Bledsoe had a tremendous career. A couple more productive years and he could've had a shot at the Hall of Fame.

 

[DFWJC]

Mallett reminds me of Phillip RIVERS

Rivers has always been known as a leader--both in college and in the pros.
At least in that aspect, I don't see them to be similar.

However, I think Mallet throws a better ball at this stage. Rivers has a great work ethic and continued to grow when he got in the league. Now he throws a great ball is is very accurate on short and deep throws.

Rivers was the better decision maker at this stage....and he got better still later.

If Mallet is willing to work and lead, he has a shot, imo.

 

[SMCowboy]

If Ryan Mallett is able to convince the Panthers leadership that the most important thing to him, is winning and being a great NFL QB. He will be the #1 pick.... The only thing that keeps him from being #1 on every scouting and mock draft in the nation, is the huge question marks about his maturity and leadership abilities...

He is this years Dez Bryant.... Noone questions his physical abilities. He is as physically talented as they come. The questions are, if he has the million dollar arm, with a 10 cent head....

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Its nice that you pick out that play, but ignore some of the others (positive) that he makes.

He could have easily had several tds in the first half, but his WR's dropped 4 or 5 gimmees, including two should have been tds that were excellent throws.

If he doesnt apply himself, he'll fail. But if he works hard he has a chance to be pretty good IMO. His pure passing skill is not equalled by anyone in this draft.

What will be interesting is what will happen if he falls to the second round. Granted this whole thread is about #1, but if he does take a huge fall (which could happen), I figure he will go early in the 2nd cause at least one of those teams will be looking for a QB.

I will say though, would JJ pass on him with the 2nd rounder. Obviously the Vikings might pay a king's ransom to get him before the Skins, which would make our 2nd rounder alot more interesting than maybe even our first if we make some boring pick there.

This is all speculation, but food for thought. We have seen that backup QBs have value, even in trade, probably more than most position's backups. We have alot of needs, but best available talent is our one true need.

 

[DFWJC]

What will be interesting is what will happen if he falls to the second round. .

Good question.
I almost give even odds between him going #1 overall early 2nd round.

I assume it's somewhere in between but a seriously doubt he goes #1 but I suspect someobe will get to him before round 2.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Good question.
I almost give even odds between him going #1 overall early 2nd round.

I assume it's somewhere in between but a seriously doubt he goes #1 but I suspect someobe will get to him before round 2.

Guess the question is who, at the bottom would take the chance and develop a backup into a viable trade option like philly or green bay did. Personally, in the second round, I would take him on value alone with our pick. Put a line in front of him, and yes, young players will listen to him no matter if he wants to be eminem or not. In their young mind frame, I would rather listen to him than some Peyton Manning wannabe. Times do change, maybe slower than in basketball and such cause there are more players, but they still do.

I do believe that if he falls to the second, even the pats (first in the second), would consider it cause of Brady's age and the line they have already had to build around Brady. This is why the Pats having so many picks is so dangerous, they can take chances like we did in the 90s. Make no mistake, with a good line like the one the Jets or even Pats have, Mallet would make Sanchez look like a waterboy.

 

[DFWJC]

Guess the question is who, at the bottom would take the chance and develop a backup into a viable trade option like philly or green bay did. Personally, in the second round, I would take him on value alone with our pick. Put a line in front of him, and yes, young players will listen to him no matter if he wants to be eminem or not. In their young mind frame, I would rather listen to him than some Peyton Manning wannabe. Times do change, maybe slower than in basketball and such cause there are more players, but they still do.

I do believe that if he falls to the second, even the pats (first in the second), would consider it cause of Brady's age and the line they have already had to build around Brady. This is why the Pats having so many picks is so dangerous, they can take chances like we did in the 90s. Make no mistake, with a good line like the one the Jets or even Pats have, Mallet would make Sanchez look like a waterboy.

I was thinking that a team in need would trade up into the later first round to get him.