Saban takes Bama job

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must be nice to be a dolphins fan.

The guy comes to a bad team, gives it a lackluster effort for two years, wastes cap space on culpepper and then leaves in two years.

Why in the world would he leave LSU and then give it a two year try. Two years. You cant do anything in pro sports in two years. He is just getting into the meat of his coaching and he leaves.

What a quitter. I hope he falls flat on his overrated face in bama.

ITs going to be funny in alabama in two years when they are 7-5 and the boosters buy out his contract and he then has failed in two spots, people will start to look at him differently.

Leaving after two years is disgraceful, imo. Two years. Amazing.
 

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I am shocked that others are shocked.

I would have been shocked if he turned them down.

Saban is who Bama wanted from the start.

But he spurned them at that time.

They, Bama, then went and asked a few other college coaches, who turned them down.

They thought they were going to land Rich Rodriquez but WVU did some last minute things that kept him there.

They, bama, where sitting there with egg on their faces. Some of the alumni were already leaking out to the media that Rich was going to sign and it was all but a done deal.

So now they had to press even harder to get Saban to come there or they really look bad.

This is a situation where they were so desperate that they were going to offer the sun, moon and stars to finally get Saban.

After getting turned down and spurned by other quality coaches they did not have much choice and there was no way that the alumni or bama fans were going to accept a lower (viewed as lower) candidate to come in and be the next coach.

There are many bama fans and alumni that are already upset, from what little I have read, with Mal Moore.
 

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YoMick;1284436 said:
Wow... Cowher in Miami... never thought about that one... I would imagine that the players talking about retirement would change their mind...
Honestly I don't see Cowher as being that great he won what 1 superbowl in 15 years and he had some pretty bad years early and later. I mean he was on the hot seat before so I dont see why everyone is getting their panties all moist at the sound of his name.
 

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cstanton1987;1284479 said:
Honestly I don't see Cowher as being that great he won what 1 superbowl in 15 years and he had some pretty bad years early and later. I mean he was on the hot seat before so I dont see why everyone is getting their panties all moist at the sound of his name.


Oh... I am with ya my friend... I am not high on Cowher.... BUT he will bring TOUGHNESS to that soft warm weather team.... from collapsing every second half of the season in the 90's to showing a little spark in 2nd half of season lately... they are soft.... Cowher can fix that much... make them respectable...
 

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cstanton1987;1284479 said:
Honestly I don't see Cowher as being that great he won what 1 superbowl in 15 years and he had some pretty bad years early and later. I mean he was on the hot seat before so I dont see why everyone is getting their panties all moist at the sound of his name.

What cowher has done with the steelers is pretty amazing if you actually stop and think about it.

He has made them contenders on a regular basis.

Many people just see on superbowl victory and two appearances but always seem to forget that he was coaching a team where the FO is very frugal due to their small market.

Many times they will have good players but when FA rolls around they will not resign those players. When FA rolls around you will not see the steelers go out and get many, if any, big name FAs for a large money amount.

Year after year he would lose players and have to plug in new players into the system and the still were a respectable team.

I would like to see what he could do with a team that would be willing to pay to keep their good players, who would be willing to go out and spend some money to bring in quality FAs.

I think if the steelers FO was not as frugal, not talking about going buck wild ala Danny Boy with the skins, but occasionally not being as frugal...I think that Steelers team under cowher would have had some more superbowl titles right now.

All speculation of course but I do believe that.
 

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dbair1967;1284340 said:
per FOX Sports and Jay Glazer

David

[bp edit...here is link and article]

LINK

Nick Saban has accepted an offer from Alabama to coach the Crimson Tide and left the Miami Dolphins on Wednesday, two weeks after declaring "I'm not going to be the Alabama coach."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

We saw this coming like a Juggernaut after they offered him the kitchen sink. Poor Miami. They're going to be in a tailspin and I think we should rescue Jason Taylor from it ASAP.
 

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Doomsday101;1284375 said:
Like owners who say the coach’s job is not in jeopardy and then fire him the next day? Saban has as much credibility as anyone else in the NFL. Evidently Alabama offer was good enough to lure him back to the college ranks. Hard part for him will be every thing he does in Alabama will be compared to Bear Bryant which Bama fans can't seem to let go. Even when Stallings won the National Championship game I heard Bama fans say well Bear would have done it better.

Yep. Saban did it no different than the owner that gives his coach the vaunted vote of confidence the day before he drops the ax on the the head of his coach. Do it your way Nick.
 

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i dont know about you guys but ive lost a lot of respect for Saban. First of all he's hired to do a job and okay if you cant do it then fine but you gotta do all you can through the deal you signed to do the best you can do improve and make the team the winner. Now i just heard on ESPNEWS that durin the season the agent of Saban was checking out the college ranks to see the interest for Saban... well ive just lost even more respect for him because he is a lying SOB!!! I would feel very betrayed if i was a dolphins fan and not to mention that Saban quit on the phone, he didnt even have the balls to show up to the Dolphins meeting and saying it to the owners face that he was leavin
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1284487 said:
What cowher has done with the steelers is pretty amazing if you actually stop and think about it.

He has made them contenders on a regular basis.

Many people just see on superbowl victory and two appearances but always seem to forget that he was coaching a team where the FO is very frugal due to their small market.

Many times they will have good players but when FA rolls around they will not resign those players. When FA rolls around you will not see the steelers go out and get many, if any, big name FAs for a large money amount.

Year after year he would lose players and have to plug in new players into the system and the still were a respectable team.

I would like to see what he could do with a team that would be willing to pay to keep their good players, who would be willing to go out and spend some money to bring in quality FAs.

I think if the steelers FO was not as frugal, not talking about going buck wild ala Danny Boy with the skins, but occasionally not being as frugal...I think that Steelers team under cowher would have had some more superbowl titles right now.

All speculation of course but I do believe that.

Yeah... BUT... the guy flat out lost MANY playoff games.... what was it 4 or 5 AFC title games...

IF the Refs would have called just one or two plays against the STeelers in last SB... they might not have won it.... everytime Seattle had something positive happen... the ref's took it back(for Holmgren to say that also) I mean come on.... the steelers could do no wrong and when they did they werent flagged....

I know you stated your opinion based on his track record and I respect that... I just put in a class of "good" coaches... no higher
 

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Hostile;1284366 said:
I was privileged to see Bo Jackson play one time live while he was at Auburn. A deity among mortals. I was mesmerized.

War Eagle.

I too had opportunity to see Bo play. Interestingly enough, when Bo was playing for the Royals, I was living in Ft. Myers Florida. In those days, the KC Royals had there spring training down in Ft. Myers. I would regularly go out and catch spring training games for like 3 bucks, a buck for a dog and another buck for a beer. He was awsome. In those days, the Royals used to hang out at a place called MiGillicuty's. You could go down and hang out with those guys no problem. In those days, you could actually get auto's still. I have a pretty good story about George Brett and Willie Wilson. In those days, Deion Sanders was playing for North Fort so it was not uncommen for me to catch Deion in a HS game and then go watch Bo and the Royals, or vice versa. Honestly, I've never been in one place at one time where there were two better athletes together. Not ever. I remember those days with fawn memories. Really takes me back.
 

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Da Hammer;1284493 said:
i dont know about you guys but ive lost a lot of respect for Saban. First of all he's hired to do a job and okay if you cant do it then fine but you gotta do all you can through the deal you signed to do the best you can do improve and make the team the winner. Now i just heard on ESPNEWS that durin the season the agent of Saban was checking out the college ranks to see the interest for Saban... well ive just lost even more respect for him because he is a lying SOB!!! I would feel very betrayed if i was a dolphins fan and not to mention that Saban quit on the phone, he didnt even have the balls to show up to the Dolphins meeting and saying it to the owners face that he was leavin

:lmao: It clearly wasn't working well fro him in Miami. I think he was marking time waiting for that large entrance back into the college ranks to open up. He probably quit over the phone because after signing that monster contract he had some immediate work to do. No time to waste you know. :p:

Respect? Well, I never had a great deal of respect for him. I guess because I never really cared about the Nick Saban Miami thing. I agree though. This is not a good day for Dolphin fans. I'll go even further and say Sunday won't be a good day for Cowboys fans if we don't get a win on Saturday. I think Jerry Jones is sitting back with his finger on the trigger and the only way to pry his finger loose is with at least two playoff wins.
 

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Bleu Star;1284508 said:
:lmao: It clearly wasn't working well fro him in Miami. I think he was marking time waiting for that large entrance back into the college ranks to open up. He probably quit over the phone because after signing that monster contract he had some immediate work to do. No time to waste you know. :p:

Respect? Well, I never had a great deal of respect for him. I guess because I never really cared about the Nick Saban Miami thing. I agree though. This is not a good day for Dolphin fans. I'll go even further and say Sunday won't be a good day for Cowboys fans if we don't get a win on Saturday. I think Jerry Jones is sitting back with his finger on the trigger and the only way to pry his finger loose is with at least two playoff wins.
I respected Saban for what he has accomplished although it was mostly in college but still i think he was given job and he should have stuck to it to the end. As for the Cowboys well it will be a very good day if both Parcells and Zimmer are run out of town but of course i would rather win and hope they still get fired later :D
 

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Guess they made him an offer he couldnt refuse. Hard to blame him for taking a job with that kind of long term security.
 

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I have great conections in Tuscaloosa. This has been in the works for a long time despite all the public denials. Saban regretted leaving college football and his family was unhappy in South Florida.

As for how it relates to the Cowboys, our TE coach Freddie Kitchens played at Alabama and coached with Saban at LSU. The word I hear is that it's a very real possibility that he's going with Saban to Tuscaloosa.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1284495 said:
I too had opportunity to see Bo play. Interestingly enough, when Bo was playing for the Royals, I was living in Ft. Myers Florida. In those days, the KC Royals had there spring training down in Ft. Myers. I would regularly go out and catch spring training games for like 3 bucks, a buck for a dog and another buck for a beer. He was awsome. In those days, the Royals used to hang out at a place called MiGillicuty's. You could go down and hang out with those guys no problem. In those days, you could actually get auto's still. I have a pretty good story about George Brett and Willie Wilson. In those days, Deion Sanders was playing for North Fort so it was not uncommen for me to catch Deion in a HS game and then go watch Bo and the Royals, or vice versa. Honestly, I've never been in one place at one time where there were two better athletes together. Not ever. I remember those days with fawn memories. Really takes me back.

Bo stopped in Memphis when he was in AA and he hit the longest HR ever hit in that stadium. The ball landed on the HS football field 200-300 yards behind the stadium. :eek:
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1284457 said:
Great Sig pic.

I always got a laugh out of the original QC picture, now this is just as funny.

The hilarious thing about the QC pic is that it wasn't photoshopped.
 

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Yeagermeister;1284554 said:
Bo stopped in Memphis when he was in AA and he hit the longest HR ever hit in that stadium. The ball landed on the HS football field 200-300 yards behind the stadium. :eek:


That guy was amazing to watch. He could litterally do anything he wanted on the field. Name the sport, that guy could beat you in 10 different ways.
 

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Kudos to Captain America for some good inside info. a few posts ago. Regarding Saban, the media, who he treated pretty brusquely here, is going to never let him live this one down. Check out this article by Dan LeBatard from today's Miami Herald:

www.miami.com:

Le Batard: Saban leaves Dolphins as a weasel
BY DAN LE BATARD
dlebatard@MiamiHerald.com

J. PAT CARTER/AP PHOTO
DESERTED: Wayne Huizenga, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, announces during a press conference at the team's complex that Dolphins coach Nick Saban is Alabama bound, abandoning his bid to rebuild the team after only two seasons.
Dolphins' Saban leaves for Alabama
Video | Huizenga meets the press

The punctuation on the Nick Saban Error is greasy and greedy. You know what he was as Dolphins coach? A failure. A loser. A gasbag. And one of the worst investments Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga has ever made. He was less of a success than Dave Wannstedt and more of a traitor than Ricky Williams. There has been very little in franchise history that came with more expectations and fewer results than this hypocrite who at the end avoided the hard questions one last time.

Talk like a warrior. Behave like a weasel.

Maybe Saban would be better off in college. Because, in the pros the last few days, he has looked like a complete and utter amateur.

He will be remembered in these parts as a quitter and a liar. He leaves the franchise in last place, with what used to be his good name somehow far lower than that. And for this he'll get a $25 million raise and more job security in Alabama. Makes you wonder what USC's Pete Carroll or Ohio State's Jim Tressel are worth, doesn't it?

Larry Coker, a decent man, gets fired for his one championship. Saban, a duplicitous one, gets the most lucrative job in college football.

Saban could have fixed his reputation today if he had that mental toughness he is always sermonizing about. We have the meandering spiel memorized by now. About ''competitive character'' and ''overcoming adversity'' and blah, blah, blah. You preach it, Nick. But you don't live it. Not when it's easier to run away and hide.

Miami, 6-10 against an easy schedule, was swept this year by younger teams in its division -- the Jets and Bills. The team isn't better than when Saban arrived, just older. What little winning Saban has done has been with players left for him by Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt. What's the best decision Saban has made in two years? Can you name one?

So it makes sense that he would lack hope. But when his players are losing, he asks them to be proud and fight and overcome, even though what they do hurts a hell of a lot more than what he does. But now, reputation in tatters, integrity stained, he runs away from this fight -- to be a dictator to kids who question less and have less power to challenge him. Of course he'd go. It's a good deal easier. And a new crowd eager for a savior can hear his hot-air speeches about being a gladiator.

Saban made Huizenga look like a public fool with all his condescending talk of integrity recently, reprimanding reporters at every turn while his agent secretly kept taking slimy calls from Alabama in the shadows. What a raging fraud Saban sounds like today, every bit as counterfeit as Miami's Super Bowl expectations.

Oh, a man, even one under contract, is allowed to change his mind and listen to other offers, especially those that double his salary. But what makes Saban's behavior so unctuous recently is that he had the audacity to question the questioners with super-sized arrogance even while lying all along to his players and his boss. Huizenga has given this man everything he has wanted -- given him more than any NFL owner anywhere has given any other coach. He deserves better than this. He deserves better than Saban leaving him to answer the hard questions today.

Makes you wonder, too: Huizenga went after Ricky Williams and his money with cutthroat zeal, and Williams is still paying him back. But Saban just broke a contract, too. There are no outs in Saban's contract to go back to the minor leagues.

Remember how mad you were when Williams retired? Well, he wasn't cheating on you. He wasn't grabbing for more money. His body hurt from a beating, and he wanted to rest. What Saban has done is a more traitorous act -- the most traitorous act in the history of the franchise. He's leaving simply because he couldn't handle a hard job on the sidelines of a game in which he asks others to be violent. He gave up, in other words. And filing it under ''family'' now as a diluter, in search of understanding, rings hollow because you can't believe anything the man says about this situation. You think he'd be leaving if he were 3-13?

Saban, infomercial sermonizer, talked a lot about loyalty and integrity and toughness.

But, in the end, these were not his guides.

They were only the kinds of things he demanded of others.
 
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