Twitter: Salary Cap heading to training camp

[phildadon86]

5yr 50mil that could escalate to 65mil. First year cap hit of 2.5mil then fluctuating cap hit of 12.mil +/- a mil.
Wagner got an option to void the last 3 years of his deal if he plays 90% of the snaps in 2022 and 23 and either makes the probowl or playoffs those two years.

Exactly.

 

[CowboyRoy]

5yr 50mil that could escalate to 65mil. First year cap hit of 2.5mil then fluctuating cap hit of 12.mil +/- a mil.
Wagner got an option to void the last 3 years of his deal if he plays 90% of the snaps in 2022 and 23 and either makes the probowl or playoffs those two years.

And look at that structure. Rams are mortgaging their future for a run now. It would be senseless for the Cowboys to do contracts like that. Cowboys arent where the Rams are.

Wagner doesnt make the Cowboys a contender. Cowboys had the draft picks to go out and draft Smith and Williams in the first round. Picks that the Rams didnt have and wont have with all their trades. So the ONLY way the Rams get better is by overpaying for veterans in FA.

 

[Bullflop]

I think MM is smart enough to know when his fanny is on thin ice. His opinion of the Cowboys' FO must be on life support.

 

[CowboyRoy]

IMO the FO is doing a few things this year (by no means am I agreeing with their strategy):

1. Cut unwanted contracts and players when their “escape clause” occurs in their contract
2. Retain Quinn as an in-house replacement for MM, and Payton as a possible external HC option for 2023
3. Roll leftover cap space into 2023 to allow max flexibility for a new coach to shape the roster

They have in essence created a “make or break” year for MM and have his replacement ready in the wings. If he wins out and succeeds? Great! They have cap space to reshape the roster in 2023.

If they struggle and lose? MM becomes the easy scape goat, and they replace him at HC and move forward with the next puppet stooge HC.

Everything you said made sense until your MM theory. Is this year grand theory?

 

[Typhus]

No, there are no FA's out there to spend the cap space on.

Maybe a few surprised cuts will become available soon.

 

[John813]

And look at that structure. Rams are mortgaging their future for a run now. It would be senseless for the Cowboys to do contracts like that. Cowboys arent where the Rams are.

Wagner doesnt make the Cowboys a contender. Cowboys had the draft picks to go out and draft Smith and Williams in the first round. Picks that the Rams didnt have and wont have with all their trades. So the ONLY way the Rams get better is by overpaying for veterans in FA.

The Cowboys aren't there but IMO the 2021 Cowboys weren't too far off from the Rams level before the Rams got aggressive in FA/trades over the past few years. Different strengths and weaknesses.

The Cowboys aren't mortgaging their future but at the same time they haven't really shown that they will ever get to that point of being a piece away by just building through the draft. They draft well, so they have to end up paying to keep the players worth keeping and have to lose decent to good guys to FA or retirement and restart the process.

IMO LB wasn't a weak spot, but IMO with Wagner at least for 2022 that would given Quinn the confidence to play Parsons wherever he wanted as Wagner is still a great LB that can be trusted. LVE is too injury/timid prone and Cox is still an unknown. Kearse is a hybrid LB but not so much a 2 down LB.

I'm not ruing the "loss" of Wagner, but at times I do wish the Cowboys were a smidge more aggressive in FA.

 

[zrinkill]

I am upset all those "big" contracts really hampered us.

Oh wait.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Cowboys aren't there but IMO the 2021 Cowboys weren't too far off from the Rams level before the Rams got aggressive in FA/trades over the past few years. Different strengths and weaknesses.

The Cowboys aren't mortgaging their future but at the same time they haven't really shown that they will ever get to that point of being a piece away by just building through the draft. They draft well, so they have to end up paying to keep the players worth keeping and have to lose decent to good guys to FA or retirement and restart the process.

IMO LB wasn't a weak spot, but IMO with Wagner at least for 2022 that would given Quinn the confidence to play Parsons wherever he wanted as Wagner is still a great LB that can be trusted. LVE is too injury/timid prone and Cox is still an unknown. Kearse is a hybrid LB but not so much a 2 down LB.

I'm not ruing the "loss" of Wagner, but at times I do wish the Cowboys were a smidge more aggressive in FA.

I think the first 7 games of last year when the Cowboys were killing it, they were a legit contender. But it was a smoke screen as the Oline was one injury away from disaster and the run D was still not good enough.

Cowboys needed to restructure the roster and get rid of overpriced veterans. That is what this year was all about, as well as maintaining as many of their own FA's they had. We had a ***** ton this year and they did great on who they kept and who they got rid of.

 

[cowboyblue22]

its not salary cap money or free agency that is keeping the cowboys from winning its how they are run by clown one and clown two

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

And look at that structure. Rams are mortgaging their future for a run now. It would be senseless for the Cowboys to do contracts like that. Cowboys arent where the Rams are.

Wagner doesnt make the Cowboys a contender. Cowboys had the draft picks to go out and draft Smith and Williams in the first round. Picks that the Rams didnt have and wont have with all their trades. So the ONLY way the Rams get better is by overpaying for veterans in FA.

They went to two SBs and won one. They have been a playoff team every year since McVay has been their coach. Stop with the nonsense losing logic.

 

[CowboyRoy]

They went to two SBs and won one. They have been a playoff team every year since McVay has been their coach. Stop with the nonsense losing logic.

Actually the Rams went to a SB, and reinvented themselves from an offensive team to a defensive one and then won the SB.

They did miss the playoffs the year after their first SB under McVay. During their restructuring.

Regardless, they are currently mortgaging their future to continue their run. All sound logic.

Whatever nonsense you are talking about, I dont even think you have any clue what your even saying. Next time dont jump into a conversation and you wont look stupid doing it.

 

[75boyz]

I would have taken the risk with a Wagner signing as I think it would have fully freed up Quinn to use Micah as the LT type "queen" chess piece that I think he wants to use him as.

I believe this FA move would have changed the defense from a decent to good, into a good to excellent unit.

And I mean, all I ever hear is how the defense determines the outcomes here.

But to me, I think this year's defense will still be pretty good but that the offense will under achieve/not hold up their end of team responsibility.

jmo

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would have taken the risk with a Wagner signing as I think it would have fully freed up Quinn to use Micah as the LT type "queen" chess piece that I think he wants to use him as.

I believe this FA move would have changed the defense from a decent to good, into a good to excellent unit.

And I mean, all I ever hear is how the defense determines the outcomes here.

But to me, I think this year's defense will still be pretty good but that the offense will under achieve/not hold up their end of team responsibility.

jmo

I would have signed a DT and another lineman.

 

[Kingofholland]

I have no issue in carrying forward cap space, we obviously planned to use some of it on Gregory when that didn't work we decided to hold it. There are going to be some potential dollars needed for Diggs and Lamb at some point soon. For Diggs it may be wise for next year if he has another good year. You can add to his 1.5 million cap figure lowering the average of the total contract.

 

[Bates]

The narrative has been Dallas doesn't or didn't have cap space to either sign or retain certain players.

I don't recall anyone saying we didn't have cap space. I've seen numerous mentions that we are carrying this cap space over to next year for the players we need to resign and Dak's number goes up.

 

[Bates]

Surprised the Browns have that much cap space when they got 30mil in dead cap.

I may be off here, but maybe it's because they are paying qb watson only 1M this year trying to get around his suspension $ penalty? They'll need that cap next year when he gets his real $.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yep we blow off this major avenue to obtain talent and overpay our own.
Makes no sense to me.
We have amatuers running the show however, so maybe I should not be surprised.

Who was the last guy of their own they overpaid for?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't recall anyone saying we didn't have cap space. I've seen numerous mentions that we are carrying this cap space over to next year for the players we need to resign and Dak's number goes up.

These same types that want us to spend every penny and mortgage our future are the same ones that are going to be complaining that we arent signing anyone again next year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I may be off here, but maybe it's because they are paying qb watson only 1M this year trying to get around his suspension $ penalty? They'll need that cap next year when he gets his real $.

Its for the off chance that he is allowed to play this year, they need the cap money to pay him.

 

[817Gill]

Wow I thought you wouldn’t have any cap room if you signed your QB to a market contract this is crazy