Salary Cap Question & Poll

During the next CBA, should the Salary Cap have more 'caps'?


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Cowboy06

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As we get ready for the start of the season, potential trades, cuts, etc. I started looking to see where we are with the salary cap. I also wanted to look at the percentage paid to only a select few. I wanted to spark debate at the risk of being called names, etc. I like where the Cowboys are going with cap management, but I admit I don't know enough about it and have noticed that many on here seem to understand it much better than I.

Mods: if this thread needs to be moved, merged, etc. Please do so with my apologies in advance.

Questions I have:

  • Has the league ever explored having a vet exception for players?
    • For example, perhaps some percentage of Romo's contract wouldn't count.
  • Does the salary cap artificially set the market?
  • Should dead money not count or at least only a small percentage?
    • My thought is that this is the team's burden, but I can see the potential for abuse.
  • For the Cowboys, a team that is flux with an aging QB and rebuilding defense, is salary cap management even more important?

http://overthecap.com/defining-salary-cap-management/

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/7/6/8900803/nfl-quarterbacks-contracts-salary-cap

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys/
 

DandyDon52

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Yes, players should be capped at no more than 10% of the overall cap number. ........ IF the cap is around 150 mil
then 10% is 15 mil, which few players go over that on a yearly basis.
It would have to be lower than 10%.

I think teams should do this themselves.
 

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Yes, players should be capped at no more than 10% of the overall cap number. ........ IF the cap is around 150 mil
then 10% is 15 mil, which few players go over that on a yearly basis.
It would have to be lower than 10%.

I think teams should do this themselves.

Thanks for the input. The only issue are the players that are already over 15mil. I have often wondered what the TRUE number is for players. What will the market truly support?
 

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I don't think from those choices there are much you can do with it or control it. Keep it the way it is, but make other changes.
Like alleviate the cap hits on players to IR or get some type of credit the following year, so players don't stash players with very minor injuries. Get credit for a player on IR to return, unless they already do. But I don't think they do.
Increase the rosters but keep the top 51 as counting toward the cap, or eliminate or decrease the inactives if the rosters are not increased, though that part has no bearing on the cap.

I am sure there are other small changes they can make without effecting the cap structure, but help players and teams.
 

DandyDon52

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the way it is now I think it favors the teams with more money, and willing to spend more money,
The restructure of contracts, and the converting salary to bonus is really cheating, legal but still creating a advantage
for the teams willing to spend, and that have plenty to spend.

This is why players want the guaranteed money, otherwise if hurt, traded or cut after a restructured contract, which
always shoves money into the future, a player could get screwed.
 

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I'd love to see teams be able to keep 10 year vets and not have the salary cap really apply. Or be able to release vets and not have the cap really apply..perhaps only 10% of what was left...that way if someone like Romo was hurt and just couldn't come back the team is okay....not really well thought out, but may it would be good to see players finish their careers with their original teams...
 

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If you institute cap percentages as guidelines it would be more like the NBA where you have max contracts, mid level exceptions, etc. Every QB that was pretty good would be wanting the max contract.
 

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Why would the nfl want to have exceptions? They would lose more money to the players that way.

I personally think the nflpa should bargain to raise the minimums. With non QBs starting to make 17+ million on average per year, they need to look out for the little guy over the top ones.
 

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Why would the nfl want to have exceptions? They would lose more money to the players that way.

I personally think the nflpa should bargain to raise the minimums. With non QBs starting to make 17+ million on average per year, they need to look out for the little guy over the top ones.

Well they could say a certain % has to be applied to the bulk of the roster.
either that or raise minimum.
 

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I would dearly love to see the ages of each voter attached to each vote, I suspect the attitude of it's not fair, which flavors this poll, is more of a younger persons attitude.
 

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I would dearly love to see the ages of each voter attached to each vote, I suspect the attitude of it's not fair, which flavors this poll, is more of a younger persons attitude.

Why would you suspect that may I ask?
 

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Yes, players should be capped at no more than 10% of the overall cap number. ........ IF the cap is around 150 mil
then 10% is 15 mil, which few players go over that on a yearly basis.
It would have to be lower than 10%.

I think teams should do this themselves.

The NBA has this, and they are called max contracts. It sounds nice in theory but it can lead to distortion - very high level players, like Lebron, become incredible bargains with capped contracts, because the salaries they are truly worthy of are much higher than the cap.
 

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The NBA has this, and they are called max contracts. It sounds nice in theory but it can lead to distortion - very high level players, like Lebron, become incredible bargains with capped contracts, because the salaries they are truly worthy of are much higher than the cap.

Actually Lebron is way overpaid just to play a kids game, it's only a bargain when you compare it to the other players getting the max.. I get what you are saying but it seems to me basketball is more messed up than football at this point.
 
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