Salary Cap Question & Poll

[CyberB0b]

The cap is really irrelevant.

 

[dogunwo]

Actually Lebron is way overpaid just to play a kids game, it's only a bargain when you compare it to the other players getting the max.. I get what you are saying but it seems to me basketball is more messed up than football at this point.

He is not overpaid even though it's a "kids game". I hear this all the time and laugh. Lebron has a skill set that led than 1% of people in the world have, and he is at the top of that 1%. He is largely responsible for the value of the Cleveland Cavaliers, and moves the economy there. People pay to see him play. He is underpaid. It may be a kids game but he performs it for people at an exceptional level that he should command top dollar for those willing to see it.

 

[The Dark Bishop]

Well it is true we were a powerhouse when there wasn't a cap. Then again so were a few other teams throughout the uncapped years. If you were willing to be the modern day Yankees then you fielded the best talent while hoping you fielded the best group that works as a team. While that is a challenge in itself we have seen teams pull off that exact science and make small dynasties out of it.

In today's age we have the cap which evens the playing field and helps those clubs that do not have the money to do as they please with zero cap limitations. While I love the theory and the reasons behind a cap, it limits the truly great player's options from staying with one team and even makes it harder for a team to keep the talent they may have trained from the ground up. Romo would be a prime point I am making. There wasn't 32 teams fighting for his services when he was drafted. Between the hard work both Romo and the Cowboys put into his career, it would be a shame another team gets the rewards of his talent because we could not afford to keep him while trying to place a great team overall. Sadly this kind of stuff happens all the time and we see overspending just to keep our own talent not less try to get another team's talent. For the sake of competition the cap makes for some interesting off seasons and even crazier 53 man line-ups. It's a shame there are not more players like a Brady that takes pay cuts to field a better team. While I loathe the guy personally, he helps his team field a better team seeing he is that kind of guy.

I guess if I was allowed to change one thing about the cap it would be to make contracts 4yrs maximum, which gives the players more possible paydays for his efforts on the field. While the players would most likely like the idea of a possible 3rd or 4th contract, have a stipulation where if the player is staying with the same team for his 3rd contract and beyond (8-9 yrs minimum), make it to where no matter the size of the contract, it only counts as 10% maximum of the teams cap. I think this would allow the players to make more while protect teams that wish to keep their talent. What do you guys think?

 

[Nightman]

I don't agree with this either. I don't want this to turn into MLB

MLB is just fine.....let the teams that want to spend spend......parity is over-rated and over-sold...the NFL was always better with Dallas as one of the super teams like PITT, SF, WAS, OAK

I don't care if the owners can't control themselves and try to buy a title...that is kind of the point....just make sure that owners aren't just banking profits and a spending floor....

 

[Nightman]

He is not overpaid even though it's a "kids game". I hear this all the time and laugh. Lebron has a skill set that led than 1% of people in the world have, and he is at the top of that 1%. He is largely responsible for the value of the Cleveland Cavaliers, and moves the economy there. People pay to see him play. He is underpaid. It may be a kids game but he performs it for people at an exceptional level that he should command top dollar for those willing to see it.

I hate when people say that......Lebron made the Heat 100s of millions and is now making the Cavs 100s of millions again......yes he is making 20m+ but he is technically underpaid because teams would pay him much more if they could.....I would always rather see the players make the money than the teams

 

[Knotamus]

The salary cap is fun be the way it is. The Rookie contracts are made so that they have to prove their worth based on individual draft position.. Which is fair to all sides. I'd leave it alone. The other contracts will work themselves out, and if not, the team suffers when they overspend.. But keep in my mind..just like our government, they'll find the loop holes regardless. Quit messing with the cap.

 

[DogFace]

I think one of the greatest ironies is most owners love the free market when it benefits them. Maybe someone should cap the amount they can charge for their product. They'd surly agree that is fair.
It's also great how many of the stadiums are publicly funded. #a-racket with hippocrits running it.

 

[Cowboy06]

If you institute cap percentages as guidelines it would be more like the NBA where you have max contracts, mid level exceptions, etc. Every QB that was pretty good would be wanting the max contract.

I'd let them hold out, wouldn't be fun, but it would really determine what the market is. Alternatively, you could have an arbitrator that could determine a players market. Not sure if that would solve or create more issues.

 

[Yuma Cactus]

The cap is almost essentially meaningless. If DAL or any team wants to sign a player they usually can. I would like to see some changes to the CBA.
1. Expanded rosters and practice squads.
2. More off season practices, especially padded.
3. Dez caught it.

 

[Hoofbite]

MLB is just fine.....let the teams that want to spend spend......parity is over-rated and over-sold...the NFL was always better with Dallas as one of the super teams like PITT, SF, WAS, OAK

Says who? A fan of one of those teams or a fan of a team who would undoubtedly have an advantage in a league without a cap? What is the measure here anyway? In what way was the NFL as a whole, "better"?

I don't care if the owners can't control themselves and try to buy a title...that is kind of the point....just make sure that owners aren't just banking profits and a spending floor....

Which would never happen. You aren't going to secure a spending floor without a cap. All the big markets snatch up all the premium talent and let the mid-sized and small markets overpay for what's left just to meet the floor? Good luck.

 

[Hoofbite]

The cap is almost essentially meaningless. If DAL or any team wants to sign a player they usually can. I would like to see some changes to the CBA.
1. Expanded rosters and practice squads.
2. More off season practices, especially padded.
3. Dez caught it.

The cap wasn't mean to prevent a team from signing any single player. It was meant to prevent 1/4th of the league from acquiring 75% of the available talent. A salary cap that prevent any team from signing a specific player under any and all circumstances wouldn't work. The current cap works because it provides flexibility without compromising balance.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Why would you suspect that may I ask?

I guess because I see a change in ideology in this country, and suspect it would be reflected in a pool discussing income, where players can make a disproportionate amount of money. Now there is a possibility those who espouse a discontent in the free market system are not football fans.

I guess that's why I would like to see the ages of the voters.

However, having said this, there is also the possibility of this merely being opinions proffered leaning for a way to get more bang for the buck and not any haves and have not leanings.

 

[Nightman]

Says who? A fan of one of those teams or a fan of a team who would undoubtedly have an advantage in a league without a cap? What is the measure here anyway? In what way was the NFL as a whole, "better"?



Which would never happen. You aren't going to secure a spending floor without a cap. All the big markets snatch up all the premium talent and let the mid-sized and small markets overpay for what's left just to meet the floor? Good luck.

Duh, we are Cowboy fans.......but even you can admit the big rivalries made the league......DAL v PITT......DAL v WAS.......DAL v SF......the closest we had lately is NE v IND....not quite the same

I only mentioned a floor but of revenue sharing......if they got rid of it I wouldn't give to rat's tails what CLE or JAX wanted to spend.....more wins for me.....

 

[DeaconMoss]

Each team should have a max contract to offer one defender and one guy on Offense. And then 4 tiers below that. Tier A all get equal pay. Tier B gets equal pay.etc

Teams could offer escalators to sweeten the deal, but this is base pay.

IE
MAX:Romo 10 per season
Tier A: Dez, Smith, Fred, Zeke(All first round rookies start in A) - 7 per season
Tier B: Witten, Beasley, etc.. - 5 per season
Tier C; Collins, etc... - 3 per season
Tier D: Butler, DMC, Morris, etc.. - 1 per season

MAX D: Nobody
Tier A: Crawford, Lee, DLaw - 7 per
Tier B: etc....

 

[DeaconMoss]

The cap is almost essentially meaningless. If DAL or any team wants to sign a player they usually can. I would like to see some changes to the CBA.
1. Expanded rosters and practice squads.
2. More off season practices, especially padded.
3. Dez caught it.

Roster size should be 60.

I would like to see an 8 team, 30 man D league for players who went undrafted and those that get cut from Rosters. North NFC, North AFC, South AFC, South NFC, East AFC, East NFC, West AFC, West NFC. Teams could then pick up players in better shape and have been practicing during the season. They could play on Wednesdays and Fridays, so we could have football all week. They would be coached by former players only who are fresh out of the league, but spent a min 5 years on an active roster.

 

[perrykemp]

what about parity? so only a few teams will be winning Superbowls... Mind you the Cowboys have cash...so.....

Although Jerry isn't the richest owner in the league - Paul Allen (Seahawks) makes Jerry look positively middle class.

 

[perrykemp]

Salary cap is fine the way it is.

This.

I like a league where winning is dictated by good coaching and good player acquisition, not just who has the biggest checkbook.

 

[Cowboy06]

Although Jerry isn't the richest owner in the league - Paul Allen (Seahawks) makes Jerry look positively middle class.

Wouldn't it be nice to have THAT type of money issues? LOL

 

[Nightman]

This.

I like a league where winning is dictated by good coaching and good player acquisition, not just who has the biggest checkbook.

The Cowboys were destroyed by the Salary Cap and we have never recovered....how a DAL fan can be in favor of it boggles the mind.....

 

[perrykemp]

The Cowboys were destroyed by the Salary Cap and we have never recovered....how a DAL fan can be in favor of it boggles the mind.....

Cowboy were "destroyed by the salary cap"?

I think you mean that great 90's team was, due to unfortunate timing, the probably the last of the great and complete (top to bottom) teams the league has ever seen or probably will see in the future and that their demise was also accelerated by the salary cap.

I can't disagree.

Having said that, it' now 2 decades later.

As I said before, I'm in favor of the cap -- a system that rewards the combination of good coaching and good player acquisition.