Sam Hurd expected to be sentenced to life in prison *UPDATED* 15 Years - Article In Post 106

[punchnjudy]

A few thoughts:

1) Pretty obvious he intended to deal the coke to NFL players. That was his market for weed, which he supposedly sold at cost. He didn't have a network in place to move the stuff anywhere else.

2) The second case against him seems flimsy to me. I know crooks are often convicted based on the testimony of other crooks, but it's hard for me to believe he pursued the coke trade after getting busted in his first attempt to acquire the stuff. And I do believe that was his first attempt--he sounded clueless in the government's transcript. I would like to see evidence of him actually dealing cocaine.

3) He isn't a kingpin. Anyone who uses that word didn't read the article. As drug dealers go, he was a clown. A true idiot in every sense of the word.

4) Michael Franzese was a mob boss in the Columbo crime family; he made a deal where in the end I think he served maybe 6-7 years in prison. Now he gets to go around the country talking about. Don't get me wrong--I like Franzese. He has since reformed his life in a very positive manner. However, his story is one of many that make it pretty clear that it's not the severity of your crimes but how well you play this joke we call a legal system.

5) Thank your lucky stars he never dealt in 'roids. We don't even want to know where that could have led. I don't think the league will show any interest in weed.

 

[TRUTH87]

The three guys that got eight years should be the ones getting life. Sam should have got the eight years at best. The marijuana trafficking is his biggest crime that he's actually guilty of. Being handed the kilo of coke seems like entrapment.

Sam was wrong for trying to act like something he wasnt. I do agree tho that beeing handed the kilo seems like entrapment. He really did not have to take it but we gotta remember hurds "provider" is associated w the zetas. (Through hurds perspective) You gotta think twice before sayin "no" to those kind of ppl. Especially after hurd set up meetings, asked for drugs and puts the water neck high. He trully messed up.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Coke, Mary Jane, Either still doesn't justify life in prison.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Please explain when cocaine was made legal and why it should be?

it was made legal at the very beginning of our founding and it should remain legal because the damage of drug prohibition exceeds the damage of society allowing it to be used.

 

[Tabascocat]

If his name was Ray Lewis, he would get off with a short probation

 

[The Quest for Six]

Travesty.

travesty of his own making....

 

[Denim Chicken]

Think any of the Hurds clients are still on the team?

 

[Direwolf63]

because the drop-out rates in the education system are so balanced

Of course they are not balanced. Drop out rates among the black community are way, way too high. Embarrassingly high.

There has to be a way to keep these kids in school. They need to be educated. I think we would all be amazed at how much of the other social problems seen in America would improve if kids would simply stay in school and learn something. That includes the drug problems.

Legalizing drugs will do nothing to solve the drug problem, or improve it. Education will not solve the drug problem, but I would say that the problem would diminish significantly.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Agree. Without any violent actions on his part or weapons charges doubt they'll get him for life

the weapon would of been the kilos of cocaine he would be selling to people....his made his bed, time to sleep in it...I have no sympathy for him...

 

[Denim Chicken]

Of course they are not balanced. Drop out rates among the black community are way, way too high. Embarrassingly high.

There has to be a way to keep these kids in school. They need to be educated. I think we would all be amazed at how much of the other social problems seen in America would improve if kids would simply stay in school and learn something. That includes the drug problems.

Legalizing drugs will do nothing to solve the drug problem, or improve it. Education will not solve the drug problem, but I would say that the problem would diminish significantly.

I really think the parents (or lack of) is where you can lie most of the blame, but then you have to look at the parents parents and so forth

 

[Direwolf63]

I really think the parents (or lack of) is where you can lie most of the blame, but then you have to look at the parents parents and so forth

And here we reach agreement.

The breakdown of the family in the black community is probably the core issue that leads to the vast majority the other social ills seen in inner-city America.

 

[Deep_South]

I really think the parents (or lack of) is where you can lie most of the blame, but then you have to look at the parents parents and so forth

In Memphis City Schools (now Shelby County Schools), even those who graduate are not home free. Only 4% of students who graduate receive a 19 or higher on the ACT, which is the score the state considers "college ready". If the state used the higher ACT standards, the 4% would be much lower. It is true, though, that local young black males who don't drop out of high school are less likely to end up in prison, but 35% of those who do graduate still end up incarcerated.

This issue is much more complex than many realize, and there are no easy solutions, but I do think the absence of traditional nuclear families in poor, black neighborhoods is the main problem.

 

[Denim Chicken]

In Memphis City Schools (now Shelby County Schools), even those who graduate are not home free. Only 4% of students who graduate receive a 19 or higher on the ACT, which is the score the state considers "college ready". If the state used the higher ACT standards, the 4% would be much lower. It is true, though, that local young black males who don't drop out of high school are less likely to end up in prison, but 35% of those who do graduate still end up incarcerated.


This issue is much more complex than many realize, and there are no easy solutions, but I do think the absence of traditional nuclear families in poor, black neighborhoods is the main problem.

Good post, the quality of education is questionable, though if you look at discretionary spending between education (8%) and, say, defense (57%), I think you may be able to draw some conclusions on what type of society we are fomenting.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

He's not a threat to society, something tells you he's learned his lesson already, however punishment is the way of our peers, to be expected dealt out and endured.

Sams life is not over, some how he has to make himself a better person and he will have that opportunity albeit likely incarcerated.

Hopefully one of these days Hurd will walk away from this ordeal with his freedom and dignity still intact.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Some of you have ventured wayyyy off-topic.. Bring it back in...
Thanks.

 

[dcstands4]

i met sam and took a picture with him at oxnard training camp. he seemed like the most down to earth dude. if you would have told me he was one of the biggest drug kingpins in america i would have said youre crazy.

I got his autograph after a game and talked about NIU, damn he was my dude...

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hasta la vista baby.

 

[links18]

travesty of his own making....

Yeah, sure.

 

[dropdeadfred5]

Good post, the quality of education is questionable, though if you look at discretionary spending between education (8%) and, say, defense (57%), I think you may be able to draw some conclusions on what type of society we are fomenting.

We spend more per student than any other country on earth. But then again facts never matter to some.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Life in prison or head chopped off..............pick one I guess