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Does anyone know what his condition is? If he is healthy I hope JG gives him a shot at RT. We need to know what he can do against regular starters. I admit after watching him for 4 years at ND I am astounded he has gotten so much better in such a short time. Before camp I would not have given a bucket of warm camel spit for him.
 
burmafrd;3714192 said:
Does anyone know what his condition is? If he is healthy I hope JG gives him a shot at RT. We need to know what he can do against regular starters. I admit after watching him for 4 years at ND I am astounded he has gotten so much better in such a short time. Before camp I would not have given a bucket of warm camel spit for him.

I'd usually be with you on this. But I think that, as much as I despise Colombo, it's best to leave him in until we're mathematically out of the playoffs. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few snaps.
 
burmafrd;3714192 said:
Does anyone know what his condition is? If he is healthy I hope JG gives him a shot at RT. We need to know what he can do against regular starters. I admit after watching him for 4 years at ND I am astounded he has gotten so much better in such a short time. Before camp I would not have given a bucket of warm camel spit for him.

What are you going on that suggests he has gotten so much better so quickly? He played a little in preseason and we haven't seen him since.
 
CowboyMcCoy;3714201 said:
I'd usually be with you on this. But I think that, as much as I despise Colombo, it's best to leave him in until we're mathematically out of the playoffs. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few snaps.

Yep, it would be dumb to put him in there, unless he absolutely has to. Doug Free has more than proved that you need to give playing time his first or second year to later on prove that you are good.

Unless Columbo absolutely cannot go or stinking up the joint ( and as many would like to believe, he is not, he might not be as good as he was couple of years ago, but he is not that bad job), you don't do that kind of stuff.
 
RCowboyFan;3714289 said:
Yep, it would be dumb to put him in there, unless he absolutely has to. Doug Free has more than proved that you need to give playing time his first or second year to later on prove that you are good.

Unless Columbo absolutely cannot go or stinking up the joint ( and as many would like to believe, he is not, he might not be as good as he was couple of years ago, but he is not that bad job), you don't do that kind of stuff.

Maybe after Thanksgiving. :eek::
 
Stautner;3714287 said:
What are you going on that suggests he has gotten so much better so quickly? He played a little in preseason and we haven't seen him since.

His play in the preseason was markedly better than the film on him in college per my observations. You'd have to ask Houck how good or not he really is but there is a remarkable difference in him since college. I wondered why they drafted the guy after watching his film from college. He may make a starting RT in this league if he continues to improve and get stronger. He's worth developing IMO.
 
The thing to remember is that change just for change sake isn't logical. The fact is that even if Colombo isn't playing particularly well, that doesn't automatically mean Young could do well or would be better. There is no connection between how good Colombo plays and how capable Young is, and if the team deems that Young is not ready and that it could hurt the offense to have Young in the game (and maybe get Kitna hurt in the process), then Young doesn't need to play.
 
Stautner;3714364 said:
The thing to remember is that change just for change sake isn't logical. The fact is that even if Colombo isn't playing particularly well, that doesn't automatically mean Young could do well or would be better. There is no connection between how good Colombo plays and how capable Young is, and if the team deems that Young is not ready and that it could hurt the offense to have Young in the game (and maybe get Kitna hurt in the process), then Young doesn't need to play.

Agreed. If Colombo is playing then most likely he is the best RT on the team at present. IMO Colombo is servicable with the caveat he gets help when needed. He's still going to give up some sacks. It's Davis who is the bigger problem IMO.
 
jobberone;3714383 said:
Agreed. If Colombo is playing then most likely he is the best RT on the team at present. IMO Colombo is servicable with the caveat he gets help when needed. He's still going to give up some sacks. It's Davis who is the bigger problem IMO.

This is really a simple, and accurate statement that fans tend to overlook because they just want to see something different without regard for whether it really makes sense.

If the team feels a young player has earned the chance to play a little, the team is going to use him. Lee, Church, Brent have all got some playing time in recent weeks for that reason. But they aren't going to just throw in people who they don't think have earned it.
 
Stautner;3714407 said:
This is really a simple, and accurate statement that fans tend to overlook because they just want to see something different without regard for whether it really makes sense.

If the team feels a young player has earned the chance to play a little, the team is going to use him. Lee, Church, Brent have all got some playing time in recent weeks for that reason. But they aren't going to just throw in people who they don't think have earned it.


What is good about this is, the young guys that had to come in, did real good. I had never paid attention to McCann! Where did he come from?

I'm liking the backups that are coming in doing their jobs when needed...so we don't know until they get the chance, and they will.
 
And the O line staff has been so good at that; and the cowboys have been so good at letting younger players play....oh, forgot. The starter first has to be UNABLE to play before they give the other guy a shot.

This staff has no cred with me anymore as judgement goes about when a player is ready to play or not.
 
burmafrd;3714420 said:
And the O line staff has been so good at that; and the cowboys have been so good at letting younger players play....oh, forgot. The starter first has to be UNABLE to play before they give the other guy a shot.

This staff has no cred with me anymore as judgement goes about when a player is ready to play or not.

You do know that "this staff" is just beginning, right? Remember when Wade was fired...you remember, member....?:confused:

:cool:

I'm from New Mexico....you need to leave those sheep alone.
 
Stautner;3714407 said:
This is really a simple, and accurate statement that fans tend to overlook because they just want to see something different without regard for whether it really makes sense.

If the team feels a young player has earned the chance to play a little, the team is going to use him. Lee, Church, Brent have all got some playing time in recent weeks for that reason. But they aren't going to just throw in people who they don't think have earned it.
Wait wait wait.

Hold the phone.

Are you telling me that someone's cure-all player cannot automatically be inserted as a starter simply because that particular player has not really proven anything to his coaches yet???

Dang it! It always works on Madden! :mad:

:)
 
Stautner;3714364 said:
The thing to remember is that change just for change sake isn't logical. The fact is that even if Colombo isn't playing particularly well, that doesn't automatically mean Young could do well or would be better. There is no connection between how good Colombo plays and how capable Young is, and if the team deems that Young is not ready and that it could hurt the offense to have Young in the game (and maybe get Kitna hurt in the process), then Young doesn't need to play.

or simply dallas still thinks they can get back into things and leaves experience on the field. But there is no denying that Colombo is on his last leg and young had solid preseason...this much we know...everything else is speculation.
 
Stautner;3714407 said:
This is really a simple, and accurate statement that fans tend to overlook because they just want to see something different without regard for whether it really makes sense.

If the team feels a young player has earned the chance to play a little, the team is going to use him. Lee, Church, Brent have all got some playing time in recent weeks for that reason. But they aren't going to just throw in people who they don't think have earned it.


C'mon man! Are you really comparing those positions to the Oline?

Do you think Free hadn't done enough to get some PT before Marc got hurt last year? It's the O-line; a totally different animal.
 
I think O-line is a position where it's very rare to see a guy be given PT over a vet until that vet gets hurt. Just like last year with Free. O-linemen build up chemistry together, and coaches just don't like to bench them unless they're forced to.

Based on what I saw in preseason, Young looks like a guy who has potential to be a solid RT, but he's not going to get in there over Columbo this year. Columbo has fought too hard for this team for the coaches to bench him, even if Young might outperform him.
 
Joshmvii;3714646 said:
I think O-line is a position where it's very rare to see a guy be given PT over a vet until that vet gets hurt. Just like last year with Free. O-linemen build up chemistry together, and coaches just don't like to bench them unless they're forced to.

Based on what I saw in preseason, Young looks like a guy who has potential to be a solid RT, but he's not going to get in there over Columbo this year. Columbo has fought too hard for this team for the coaches to bench him, even if Young might outperform him.

That was pretty obvious when Wade played a one-legged Columbo over Free because he's the leader of the Oline:rolleyes:
 

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