Samuel Wants Out Of New England

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burmafrd;1446901 said:
A HOLE means that at that time there is NOT a good starter there. We really do not have any holes right now. REAL holes.

Oh, come on. We have holes at at HB, WR, QB, LT, OLB, CB, FS...

lol. I'm just kidding. When was the last year that you can recall where we went into the draft with no glaring holes?
 

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Sandyf;1447003 said:
We can't afford two $80 million CBs and that is what we are looking at with Newman at the end of the season.

Drafting one to eventually replace Henry is far better idea. If not the first with Ross or Houston or Revis then possibly round 2 or 3 with Michael Coe.

Remember Fred Bennett at South Carolina was thought to be a definite 1st round guy until a bad second half of his senior year and could be had probably in the 5th or 6th round. I would take the chance on him there.

I don't think Newman will quite demand Clements' salary. I'm not saying that Newman is worse then Clements, I'm just saying the INT numbers aren't there (unless of course he breaks out) so it's harder to justify a record contract.
 

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firehawk350;1447184 said:
I don't think Newman will quite demand Clements' salary. I'm not saying that Newman is worse then Clements, I'm just saying the INT numbers aren't there (unless of course he breaks out) so it's harder to justify a record contract.

I can't tell you how wrong you are. Newman without question will command 80+ million.
 

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firehawk350;1447184 said:
I don't think Newman will quite demand Clements' salary. I'm not saying that Newman is worse then Clements, I'm just saying the INT numbers aren't there (unless of course he breaks out) so it's harder to justify a record contract.
Here we go again with the interceptions hype.
 

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What do you expect from a skins fan? Like the morons at BSPN and elsewhere, they do not care how many tds you give up as long as you have some spectacular INTS (Deangelo Hall is the poster child for the burnt toast CB who only fools and morons consider good)
 

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nyc;1447194 said:
I can't tell you how wrong you are. Newman without question will command 80+ million.


I don't think so unless like previously stated he has a breakout year. I'd be happy if he just had 6 interceptions this year...
 

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firehawk350;1447184 said:
I don't think Newman will quite demand Clements' salary. I'm not saying that Newman is worse then Clements, I'm just saying the INT numbers aren't there (unless of course he breaks out) so it's harder to justify a record contract.

He might not break that number, but he'll be in that neighborhood, regardless.
 

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Really have to laugh at people who think INTs are what a CB is all about.
A CBs FIRST duty is to prevent completions and TDs. THEN he can worry about INTS. What would you rather have- a CB like Newman who hardly ever gives up a big play or TD, but does not get a lot of INTS; or burnt toast like BSPNs favorite child Deangelo Hall who gives up TDs right and left and gets lauded for the occasional fancy INT?
 

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# 22 Asante Samuel
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Position: CB
Height: 5-10
Weight: 185
Born: 01/06/1981
College: Central Florida
NFL Experience:
5














Defensive Stats YearTeamGTotalTklAstSacksIntYdsAvgLgTDPass Def2003New England Patriots163430.04025527.555152004New England Patriots133634.02013434.0341112005New England Patriots155444.01003155.0150132006New England Patriots156459.0501012012.033014TOTAL 59188167.02101622414.055243
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Check out year 2006. Think this guy played a little harder last year. I always liked Wilson better but the guy is always injured. Asante smelled money. From a Pats fan you or any other team can have him. This reminds me of Ty Law saying "hey a man has got to eat". Yeh right, on millions. Cry me a river.

And I did not feel this way about Branch. Brady and Branch had a chemistry. We should have paid him. And it cost us a Super Bowl. In my opinion this is something different. Show him the door. One first round pick would be sweet.
 

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Oh boohooo. Cry me a river. So a guy wanted some extra cash. What's so wrong with that? In fact, I'm hoping that is how Ken Hamlin feels this year. I want him to desire with every bone in his body to have the best season possible so he can cash-in in 2008. I want our players to play the best they possibly can and if money is one motive for that, then so be it.
 

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Sorry Theogt, the guy doesn't deserve top dollar. You can have him for a first round draft pick.

I just hope BB doesn't give into this. I know defense is always foremost on his mind.
 

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we need to get youger at cb. but there are several guys in this draft who would fit the bill for a ton less money.i don't think he is as good as he thinks he is
 

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HardHittingRoy31;1446795 said:
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, a free agent limited by the franchise tag, wants to be traded.
"This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel told Schefter. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can’t be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded."
Samuel says that he is prepared to sit out the season, if need be. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely."
Sure. Look, none of these franchise players is going to miss a paycheck. So look for Samuel to sign his tender on the eve of the start of the regular season, and collect game checks worth more than $458,000 each. That's almost as much as he made for the entire season in 2006.
The problem is that the Pats have shelled out plenty of money for multiple free agents in the past month, and Samuel has been paying close attention.
"I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." (Or move out.)

This just came up,thought I pass it along.

You see.... look what T.O. started..... :money::showme:

fair market value is fair market value
 

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Pats Fan;1447232 said:
# 22 Asante Samuel
396071.jpg
Position: CB
Height: 5-10
Weight: 185
Born: 01/06/1981
College: Central Florida
NFL Experience:
5














Defensive Stats YearTeamGTotalTklAstSacksIntYdsAvgLgTDPass Def2003New England Patriots163430.04025527.555152004New England Patriots133634.02013434.0341112005New England Patriots155444.01003155.0150132006New England Patriots156459.0501012012.033014TOTAL59188167.02101622414.055243
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Check out year 2006. Think this guy played a little harder last year. I always liked Wilson better but the guy is always injured. Asante smelled money. From a Pats fan you or any other team can have him. This reminds me of Ty Law saying "hey a man has got to eat". Yeh right, on millions. Cry me a river.

And I did not feel this way about Branch. Brady and Branch had a chemistry. We should have paid him. And it cost us a Super Bowl. In my opinion this is something different. Show him the door. One first round pick would be sweet.


I agree 1000% and yet Brady still got you guys into the playoffs with scrubs like Gaffney. Assante is solid but I would only give up a 2nd for him...
 

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Alexander;1446971 said:
We will have no depth very soon. Glenn will not last forever and I don't see anyone else on the roster with starting potential. Both Reeves and Jones make me nervous just by being in the nickel.

I'm not opposed to drafting a CB early (even rd one, though my preference would be 2nd or 3rd)...

I'm just opposed to giving up the picks AND a ton of cap space for it

David
 
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