Santonio Holmes is now a NY Jet *Merged*

[dbair1967]

What am i missing here? A 5th Rounder for a Super Bowl MVP?

It’s a low risk / high reward gamble for the Jets.

Maybe, but he's probably one more screw up from a year suspension. And knowing his track record, he'll likely screw up.

There's also probably alot of stuff going on that none of us knows about too. Nobody wanted this guy and the Stealers basically kicked him out for nothing. Says all you need to know.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

And here I　was expecting to see people say roy>>>holmes. But then again Hos hasnt posted yet.


And DUI is a minor offense.

Yeah it's a minor offense to the idiots who do it or those tho like to do it and hope they always get away with it.

The keys being that only idiots actually believe that driving under the influence is a minor offense.

So I'm guessing you're telling everyone here that you're an idiot? I would hope not.

 

[TNCowboy]

What am i missing here? A 5th Rounder for a Super Bowl MVP?

It’s a low risk / high reward gamble for the Jets.

One guy can poison a lockerroom. You can't put a $$$ amount or draft pick value on how to value that. But obviously a lot of teams do place a high value on it, given that the Steelers talked to everyone, and no one else was interested.

 

[DFWJC]

Wow a freakin' 5th round pick?????? Great move by the Jets.

Doesn't the Commish have to approve trades? This seems to be completely out of whack value wise.

I know Pittsburgh loves Wallace and would also like to see what they have in Sweed, but this seems like robbery.

It proves yet again that leading up to the draft, picks >>>players. I think we had that discussion recently regarding Felix and preposterous notion that we would not accept a top ten pick for him.

This whole thing makes more sense now that the 4 game suspension of Holmes is coming out. So a partial season rental for a 5th is the deal.

 

[miamicowboy21]

The golden boy Bill Parcells is getting murdered down here. There biggest rival continues to make the dolphins front office look like a bunch of incompetent clowns. It's really embarrasing how the jets being restricted by the final
8 rule continue to add studs. I'm loving every minute of it.

 

[DFWJC]

The golden boy Bill Parcells is getting murdered down here. There biggest rival continues to make the dolphins front office look like a bunch of incompetent clowns. It's really embarrasing how the jets being restricted by the final
8 rule continue to add studs. I'm loving every minute of it.

If you look at Miami's roster, I'd say they (along with Atlanta and maybe SF) are a franchise full of young talent with the arrow certainly pointing up. The fans there should not be hanging their heads over short-term and expensive moves being made by rivals.

 

[miamicowboy21]

If you look at Miami's roster, I'd say they (along with Atlanta and maybe SF) are a franchise full of young talent with the arrow certainly pointing up. The fans there should not be hanging their heads over short-term and expensive moves being made by rivals.

young up and coming talent are you kidding. Other than Jake long, vontae Davis, Sean Smith and possibly henne where is this up and coming talent that you speak of.

The jets have a second year QB with 2 playoff wins, a young impressive back in Greene, a WR corps with the addition of holmes that makes the dolphins WR's look like high schoolers, a future all pro TE in Dustin Keller, ohh yeah did I mention that offensive line.

Defense... They were number 1 last year added cromartie and could possibly add Jason taylor. Seriously, the jets are light years ahead of Miami. The talent isn't even close.

 

[DFWJC]

The jets have a second year QB .....

etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc

You make it sound like I'm saying that Miami is better than the Jets. Calm down. This was not a statement to downgrade the Jets. They are loaded. I just don't think that the Miami situation is as bad as some of their whiney fans think it is. Would I put them ahead of NYJ? No way.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Twitter...

albertbreer

RT @gregaiello We have announced 4-game suspension of Santonio Holmes for violating substance abuse program...first 4 games of reg season.

 

[jobberone]

The Jets should contend for their division which is saying something. Miami will get better. Parcells knows what he's doing. They're still another year or two away. I like Henne.

 

[Vintage]

Of all the ignorance I've seen in this forum, this one ranks right at the top.

Not only is this comment ignorant, its pathetic.

I could have sworn there was a misdemeanor DUI as well as felony DUI....

 

[NeonNinja]

I could have sworn there was a misdemeanor DUI as well as felony DUI....

I think for a felony it depends on the number of offenses, level of blood alcohol or if anyone was injured.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Im not sure if the risk is worth the reward for the Jets. It's not about giving up a 5th round pick, anymore than it was about the low level pick we gave the Titans for Pacman. You're creating unnecessary turmoil and possible distractions.


This latest 4 game suspension was just for drug issues, he still has a civil and criminal cases being investigated ... so this 4 game could be bumped up even higher based on that. And he doesn't have to be convicted of anything, Goodell suspendd Vick and PacMan just for being investigated. How much do you want to gameplan your offense around a guy who might not play at all next year?

My problem is that last year the Jets had an identity of run defense and running game. But now they've added a high profile WR to go along with the other knucklehead WR they traded for last year in the middle of the season. So what's going to be their identity now? I assume they're still going to rely heavily on a power running game considering they have Green and they supposedly promised LaDanian a gazillion carries to get him to sign. There's only enough snaps to go around. It's nice to have a lot of weapons, but sometimes you just got to know what your bread and butter is and not overcomplicate things. Best case scenerio is they get Holmes back in Week 4, and they try to shoe horn him into the offense and try not to discombobulate the whole thing. Seems like a fustercluck in the making, and really unnecessary since I don't think the Jets are hurting for passing weapons with Edwards, Crotchery, Clowney and Keller.

 

[DFWJC]

Some of these teams better take Claussen, Gresham, Matthews, Witherspoon, Odrick, Price, Mays before we pick.

Actually about half of them should help one of our guys shake loose

Well, at least Clausen should be gone now. If a couple more of those guys go we may have some luck.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

For a 5th rounder makes me wonder about what the cowboys are doing.

 

[Alexander]

What am i missing here? A 5th Rounder for a Super Bowl MVP?

It’s a low risk / high reward gamble for the Jets.

There is risk to it.

He basically is a step away from getting the boot for a year, not just four games.

That said, I still would have sent a fifth to rent him, if even for twelve games. We did a similar deal for Scott Fujita and let him walk.

The Jets got the better end of the deal. Yes, the Steelers were supposedly going to cut him if they could not find a trade partner, but that fifth round choice is nothing for a player like Holmes. If he is a good boy, it is a great gamble.

 

[Alexander]

For a 5th rounder makes me wonder about what the cowboys are doing.

What we are doing is saving face for a bad trade with Roy Williams.

 

[MapleLeaf]

There is risk to it.

He basically is a step away from getting the boot for a year, not just four games.

That said, I still would have sent a fifth to rent him, if even for twelve games. We did a similar deal for Scott Fujita and let him walk.

The Jets got the better end of the deal. Yes, the Steelers were supposedly going to cut him if they could not find a trade partner, but that fifth round choice is nothing for a player like Holmes. If he is a good boy, it is a great gamble.

...for a four game suspension? Is he able to attend training camp? Is he able to practice with the team during this period?

If he is allowed to participate fully and only has to sit on the sidelines for four games it may work out for them for the (12) game rental.

What we don't know is how much of his attitude is he willing to change. Obviously his present method has not been successful in keeping him out of trouble. If he can change it may turn out to be a real steal for the Jets if they sign him.

(12) games for Holmes and no SuperBowl, but seeing him walk isn't really a big gain in my opinion. In 2012 you will be starting all over again at one WR position and you have put a lot of your coaching into a rental.

(12) games, he contributes, you win it all and he walks I would say it's a good deal for the Jets.

(12) games, he contributes, he re-signs, and he stays out of trouble is a good deal to me. It allows you to stroke off one WR position for the next few drafts.

 

[Alexander]

...for a four game suspension? Is he able to attend training camp? Is he able to practice with the team during this period?

Unless he is different from other suspended players, I believe will be able to attend offseason workouts and training camp as well as preseason games and then he would serve his suspension once the regular season begins.

 

[BeWare94]

Holmes is facing a possible 4 game suspension to start the season...that probably decreased his value..but a 5th rounder? wow

And the Steelers will probably stand on the lofty family values/he's a troublemaker plattitude...Why'd they trade him and not Rapelisberger?