Sapp vs. Allen

[Chief]

Look at the gap between Sapp and the LDT. That's a substantial split.

I got your gap right here, buddy.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Look at the gap between Sapp and the LDT. That's a substantial split. We were blocking man in that series and that's the reason you saw Gurode stand up and block "nobody". Sapp was Allen's man, no way around it.

The LDT is a lined up on the outside shoulder of Rivera, the RG, two whole linemen over from Allen. That seems to explain the large gap

 

[Givincer]

The LDT is a lined up on the outside shoulder of Rivera, the RG, two whole linemen over from Allen. That seems to explain the large gap

If you can tell that Rivera is lined up on the outside shoulder of a linemen that is further away than Allen and Flo how can you not see that Sapp is lined up atleast on the outside shoulder of Allen.

 

[Hostile]

HH, please take this in the spirit intended. More than anyone else on this forum you cling tightly to your opinions and refuse to budge from them. No matter what anyone else brings to the table, even if it is commentary by experts, you excuse it and try to lessen it. This has earned you the comparison to Nors. Not good comparisons IMO.

You think this makes you look smarter. Trust me, it doesn't. When the deck is stacked against you, take Kenny Rogers advice and "know when to fold 'em." You're staring at an unbeatable hand.

Learn from the 30 yard slant nonsense. You're wrong. Everyone except you knows you're wrong. You probably know you're wrong. Grasping at straws (overhead shots) isn't helping you. It's making you look more foolish.

 

[The30YardSlant]

If you can tell that Rivera is lined up on the outside shoulder of a linemen that is further away than Allen and Flo how can you not see that Sapp is lined up atleast on the outside shoulder of Allen.

Because it is an angled view and the farther up the screen you go, the more obvious the dimensions become. It's a lot easier to tell where ted washington is as opposed to Sapp, at least from what I'm looking at.

 

[The30YardSlant]

HH, please take this in the spirit intended. More than anyone else on this forum you cling tightly to your opinions and refuse to budge from them. No matter what anyone else brings to the table, even if it is commentary by experts, you excuse it and try to lessen it. This has earned you the comparison to Nors. Not good comparisons IMO.

You think this makes you look smarter. Trust me, it doesn't. When the deck is stacked against you, take Kenny Rogers advice and "know when to fold 'em." You're staring at an unbeatable hand.

Learn from the 30 yard slant nonsense. You're wrong. Everyone except you knows you're wrong. You probably know you're wrong. Grasping at straws (overhead shots) isn't helping you. It's making you look more foolish.

I'm really sorry, bnut I just don't see how it'sa plain as day where Sapp is. I can tell where washington is no doubt, but not Sapp. That angle just doesnt allow for it IMO.

 

[cobra]

Can someone give me a link to provide context to what this post was intended to respond to?

It appears this argument was occurring elsewhere, and I am interested in seeing what that discussion was about.

Link, please?

 

[The30YardSlant]

Can someone give me a link to provide context to what this post was intended to respond to?

It appears this argument was occurring elsewhere, and I am interested in seeing what that discussion was about.

Link, please?

The thread was deleted, I think

 

[Hostile]

I'm really sorry, bnut I just don't see how it'sa plain as day where Sapp is. I can tell where washington is no doubt, but not Sapp. That angle just doesnt allow for it IMO.

Show it to 999 people other than yourself.

No one is going to agree with you HH. Not one single solitary person.

You want to see it your way. It just isn't going to happen and as I said, you're looking foolish because of it.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Can someone give me a link to provide context to what this post was intended to respond to?

It appears this argument was occurring elsewhere, and I am interested in seeing what that discussion was about.

Link, please?

Opinion Zone.

Thread was closed.

For those who want the history, here's the link.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57130

 

[Chief]

I'm really sorry,

Don't apologize, HH.

You've got them on the ropes.

Hang in there!

 

[The30YardSlant]

Show it to 999 people other than yourself.

No one is going to agree with you HH. Not one single solitary person.

You want to see it your way. It just isn't going to happen and as I said, you're looking foolish because of it.

I don't want to see it my way, as I've said if it was conclusive I have no trouble admitting I was wrong. I just dont see it.

 

[AdamJT13]

Where's this coming from anyway? No fair to start a new thread about an existing argument.

It's from the "Losing L. Allen, gaining K. Kosier - pros and cons" thread, which was locked.

 

[RCowboyFan]

HH, please take this in the spirit intended. More than anyone else on this forum you cling tightly to your opinions and refuse to budge from them. No matter what anyone else brings to the table, even if it is commentary by experts, you excuse it and try to lessen it. This has earned you the comparison to Nors. Not good comparisons IMO.

You think this makes you look smarter. Trust me, it doesn't. When the deck is stacked against you, take Kenny Rogers advice and "know when to fold 'em." You're staring at an unbeatable hand.

Learn from the 30 yard slant nonsense. You're wrong. Everyone except you knows you're wrong. You probably know you're wrong. Grasping at straws (overhead shots) isn't helping you. It's making you look more foolish.

And you try to reason because?

 

[Hostile]

And you try to reason because?

Basically because he's setting himself up for yet another beating. I realize that it's in vain to get someone to stop when they are so obviously wrong, but I just can't help myself. It's the Boy Scout in me that wants to help the little old lady across the street.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Basically because he's setting himself up for yet another beating. I realize that it's in vain to get someone to stop when they are so obviously wrong, but I just can't help myself. It's the Boy Scout in me that wants to help the little old lady across the street.

I dont needs your help, shonny!!!!! Ya hears!?!?!?

 

[Hostile]

Let's try it this way.

For the angle that HH is claiming to be correct the LDE would have to be lined up across from Rivera. The picture clearly shows him lined up opposite Petitti. This makes sense because no LDE is going to line up where it makes the double team easier. The reason it's clear is because the LDT is not opposite the Center, he is lined up outside of the Center and there isn't room for 2 guys lined up together in front of Rivera.

In other words, the angle he says this is skewed to does not exist and it is just what it appears to be. The RDE is lined up way outside and Sapp the RDT is lined up basically face to face with Flozell.

If anyone disagrees I'll be shocked.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Basically because he's setting himself up for yet another beating. I realize that it's in vain to get someone to stop when they are so obviously wrong, but I just can't help myself. It's the Boy Scout in me that wants to help the little old lady across the street.

Yeah, but thats a worthy cause and probably rewarding at that But this.... is just a lost cause

 

[adbutcher]

 

[5Stars]

Well, HH, I have read this whole mess...and, well, your a young man, and you need to learn that you are not right all the time!

You can argue all you want...but Sapp dogged Allen on that play.

Also, if 10 people see it a lot different then you, what do you think you will accomplish be repeatedly saying everone is wrong, and you are right?

You blew this arguement...learn to be a man...admit it and move on!

You will gain more respect from admitting you are wrong, the continuing to argue you are right...when evidence concludes you are, indeed wrong...

Don't blame bad eyesight, optical illusions, or what not....that's backstroking!